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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
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Posted - 2012.10.30 03:04:00 -
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Strafe speed up, hit detection failures increase. I want strafe speed up, but I want hit detection to work. If hit detection isn't addressed I won't be playing this game. This isn't a threat and a QQ; hit detection is a fundamental aspect of any good shooter. If it doesn't work correctly a game is, fundamentally, a p.o.s.
I love DUST and I'm convinced it will be a great game on release but right now I'm not having fun with this game because of this problem. Anyway, this is a thread to see if I'm the only one having this issue? I've literally emptied a clip into a scout standing still with his back to me. Result? A couple ticks of his shields and a whole lot of fireworks as his shields lit up and took two hits. Two hits from a full AR clip in the back. This isn't a solitary thing. It's also quite random. I fought him again, dancing around in circles, making it difficult to kill him, and got maybe 2 hit detection errors, but killed him in three seconds flat because the majority of rounds registered.
Le sigh. I'm taking a day off tomorrow, I think. Got a paper on how multinational companies are the new colonial powers to do anyway. Later, peeps. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 03:38:00 -
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1 part skinny female characters, 1 part latency, and 1 part bouncing around over terrain/allies. The scout is the only suit which feels a reasonable speed now. Imho all suit types should still move, strafe and turn faster. ALL of them. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.30 03:51:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:1 part skinny female characters, 1 part latency, and 1 part bouncing around over terrain/allies. The scout is the only suit which feels a reasonable speed now. Imho all suit types should still move, strafe and turn faster. ALL of them.
hmm.. i mentioned skinny female characters affecting me and was denounced. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:03:00 -
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I don't care if the hit boxes are the same. My target is smaller :p
And I've not seen confirmation from CCP that the little girls don't have little hitboxes.
Edit: if they do actually have smaller hit boxes then CCP should give up with FPS .... |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:46:00 -
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dropsuits need to be sped up.
they all feel slow and clunky. meanwhile a tank can move across the map before it takes you time to reload.
make snipers work for their kills when they aren't hitting fridges on skates. |
WiZdomTooTh
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:51:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:Tony Calif wrote:1 part skinny female characters, 1 part latency, and 1 part bouncing around over terrain/allies. The scout is the only suit which feels a reasonable speed now. Imho all suit types should still move, strafe and turn faster. ALL of them. hmm.. i mentioned skinny female characters affecting me and was denounced.
Yeah but you said someone needed to hit that box..... |
Vane Arcadia
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
115
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Posted - 2012.10.30 07:04:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Strafe speed up, hit detection failures increase. I want strafe speed up, but I want hit detection to work. If hit detection isn't addressed I won't be playing this game. This isn't a threat and a QQ; hit detection is a fundamental aspect of any good shooter. If it doesn't work correctly a game is, fundamentally, a p.o.s.
I love DUST and I'm convinced it will be a great game on release but right now I'm not having fun with this game because of this problem. Anyway, this is a thread to see if I'm the only one having this issue? I've literally emptied a clip into a scout standing still with his back to me. Result? A couple ticks of his shields and a whole lot of fireworks as his shields lit up and took two hits. Two hits from a full AR clip in the back. This isn't a solitary thing. It's also quite random. I fought him again, dancing around in circles, making it difficult to kill him, and got maybe 2 hit detection errors, but killed him in three seconds flat because the majority of rounds registered.
Le sigh. I'm taking a day off tomorrow, I think. Got a paper on how multinational companies are the new colonial powers to do anyway. Later, peeps.
I actually fired 2 rounds of forge gun point blank into a stationary scout and missed. I switched to smg and continued - missed as well. I put it down to lag. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.30 07:18:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:dropsuits need to be sped up.
they all feel slow and clunky. meanwhile a tank can move across the map before it takes you time to reload.
make snipers work for their kills when they aren't hitting fridges on skates.
Wolfman confirmed for us that there have been no speed changes other than to strafe since before Replication. The feeling of slowness is animation related, and they're polishing that for next build.
The current hit detection issues are a result of a memory leak in the blowing-dust effect, and that is being worked on as well. More of you guys should set up IRC. There's 5 CCP in here right now. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:34:00 -
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Vane Arcadia wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Strafe speed up, hit detection failures increase. I want strafe speed up, but I want hit detection to work. If hit detection isn't addressed I won't be playing this game. This isn't a threat and a QQ; hit detection is a fundamental aspect of any good shooter. If it doesn't work correctly a game is, fundamentally, a p.o.s.
I love DUST and I'm convinced it will be a great game on release but right now I'm not having fun with this game because of this problem. Anyway, this is a thread to see if I'm the only one having this issue? I've literally emptied a clip into a scout standing still with his back to me. Result? A couple ticks of his shields and a whole lot of fireworks as his shields lit up and took two hits. Two hits from a full AR clip in the back. This isn't a solitary thing. It's also quite random. I fought him again, dancing around in circles, making it difficult to kill him, and got maybe 2 hit detection errors, but killed him in three seconds flat because the majority of rounds registered.
Le sigh. I'm taking a day off tomorrow, I think. Got a paper on how multinational companies are the new colonial powers to do anyway. Later, peeps. I actually fired 2 rounds of forge gun point blank into a stationary scout and missed. I switched to smg and continued - missed as well. I put it down to lag.
Iv had this its not lag. Was sniping, granted I'm a crap sniper, BUT an assault or scout was standing still, put 4 rounds into them in different locations to no avail, they then moved like 2 ft, tried again got the hit. He then moved back to where he was originally standing and was invulnerable again. Don't know if it was the angle he was standing at or what, but where/the way he was standing made him impossible to hit from my location
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:35:00 -
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Maybe CCP should gtfo of IRC and onto the forums then.
IRC was not a requirement of this beta. It's quite clear though it should have been.
The ps3 community at large do not use IRC. |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:20:00 -
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Yeah, it's back. Sucks tbh. Last couple of days have emptied a killswitch clip into peeps to little effect. Ditto for the HMG.
Hit detection is STILL priority # 1 CCP. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:59:00 -
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We've asked on the forums before about quantified strafe & sensitivity and never heard. For this info to be thrown out on IRC pisses me off. Why should I waste my time here?
Iron wolf is one of the few people who puts IRC info onto the forums, and he has my honest thanks for it. He shouldn't have to though. |
RIMSICLE BLUMPKIN
24
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:55:00 -
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I guess this is what happens when comp game makers try to make a game for console.
Bit like employing a chef to work on your car, then being surprised he can't get it to run.  |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:06:00 -
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NERF SCOUT SUIT IT SO OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
202
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:10:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:NERF SCOUT SUIT IT SO OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fix hit detection. It is SO BROKEN. Carry on.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:24:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:NERF SCOUT SUIT IT SO OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fix hit detection. It is SO BROKEN. Carry on.
YOUR LACK OF CAPS RENDERS UR ARGUMENT INVALID!!!!!!! |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
202
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:36:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:NERF SCOUT SUIT IT SO OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fix hit detection. It is SO BROKEN. Carry on. YOUR LACK OF CAPS RENDERS UR ARGUMENT INVALID!!!!!!!
Drats. Oops, I meant.
DRATS. U R TEH WEENER. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:17:00 -
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hit detection is still screwed. can't tell you how many sniper shots should of killed.
also with everyone running around as heavies it's no surprised that when they increased strafe speed a bit they can now dodge the heavies with their i win button. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:56:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:hmm.. i mentioned skinny female characters affecting me and was denounced.
Rightfully so. It's a bullshit rumour. They aren't going to give arbitrary advantages to people for picking one gender over the other. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:22:00 -
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Rumor or not it makes sense that people would think this about the femail suits since they actually look smaller. This means that at times you are trying to adjust your aim to "hit" a target your already hitting because it looks like your missing them since they look smaller. I agree with Tony though. If the hitboxes are actually smaller then CCP has completely failed in the logic department for the FPS genre of games.
**Raises shot of Whiskey***
Heres to hoping that this infact is not the case |
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