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Sercell Jast
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.29 01:52:00 -
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Greetings:
Do sniper shots incur a distance dropoff, for example, do I need to aim slightly higher when at distance to compensate for bullet drop? On a similar note, are there optimal and dropoff calculations being applied like on eve?
Disclaimer: i apologize if q has been answered before, couldnt find a thread. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.29 01:53:00 -
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Sercell Jast wrote:Greetings:
Do sniper shots incur a distance dropoff, for example, do I need to aim slightly higher when at distance to compensate for bullet drop? On a similar note, are there optimal and dropoff calculations being applied like on eve?
Disclaimer: i apologize if q has been answered before, couldnt find a thread. Nope
Why would there be drop off calculations in space? there's no gravity to pull your projectiles around in space. |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.10.29 02:06:00 -
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i'm assuming the the sniper rifles use similar technology as the railguns (from what i have observed) therefore the projectile would have to be flying an incredible distance to encounter and type of loss of velocity or height .
for instance: if you use magnetic levitation to propel a sewing needle to maximum velocity (we will call it 8000 Kmh) it would need to travel the distance equivalent to the moon (384,400km) to drop 4 inches from it's original trajectory.
keep in mind a standard sewing needle is made from composite metals (steel or aluminum,tin)
the sewing needle in our explanation would need to be made from weapons grade uranium and extremely dense to withstand the force caused from such speeds |
Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.10.29 03:17:00 -
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The only sniper rifle that you have to adjust for gravity and ballistics is the Experimental Sniper Rifle in the Militia area of the market.
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 03:25:00 -
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I think I read somewhere that the experimental one is the rough direction CCP will be taking with sniper rifles. I'll give it a try next time I'm redlining. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.29 07:44:00 -
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No drop on rail gun, or travel time. All lead is due to lag. Travel time would make a larger difference then bullet drop at dust sniper rifle velocities, and less math to do it. I support adding travel time to rail sniper, and save bullet drop for minmatar(some buff to cancel out penalty of harder to hit target), amarr sniper(if ever added)should be hit scan but leave brilliant streak of laser light pointing out position when fired. |
Death On Contact
Doomheim
56
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:29:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:No drop on rail gun, or travel time. All lead is due to lag. Travel time would make a larger difference then bullet drop at dust sniper rifle velocities, and less math to do it. I support adding travel time to rail sniper, and save bullet drop for minmatar(some buff to cancel out penalty of harder to hit target), amarr sniper(if ever added)should be hit scan but leave brilliant streak of laser light pointing out position when fired.
Why would a weapons manufacturer develope a sniper rifle that would beam a light thus giving away a firing position let alone who the hell would buy it?! Lol. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:39:00 -
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Death On Contact wrote:
Why would a weapons manufacturer develope a sniper rifle that would beam a light thus giving away a firing position let alone who the hell would buy it?! Lol.
never underestimate CCP's hatred of Amarr. |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:59:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:
never underestimate CCP's hatred of Amarr.
Never underestimate ALL non-Amarr's hatred of the Amarr. |
Death On Contact
Doomheim
56
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:03:00 -
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I dated an Amarr girl once.....she had ugly feet but a great ass. |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:10:00 -
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Death On Contact wrote:I dated an Amarr girl once.....she had ugly feet but a great ass.
The one I dated was all high maintenance, wanting shiny things that had all kinds of lights on them. It's why I tried to pimp out my Loki... |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:47:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:i'm assuming the the sniper rifles use similar technology as the railguns (from what i have observed) therefore the projectile would have to be flying an incredible distance to encounter and type of loss of velocity or height .
for instance: if you use magnetic levitation to propel a sewing needle to maximum velocity (we will call it 8000 Kmh) it would need to travel the distance equivalent to the moon (384,400km) to drop 4 inches from it's original trajectory.
keep in mind a standard sewing needle is made from composite metals (steel or aluminum,tin)
the sewing needle in our explanation would need to be made from weapons grade uranium and extremely dense to withstand the force caused from such speeds
Perhaps the most hilarious example I have seen. This would hold true only if the sewing needle was made out of weapons grade uranium. Gotta love it. If |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.10.29 20:22:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:i'm assuming the the sniper rifles use similar technology as the railguns (from what i have observed) therefore the projectile would have to be flying an incredible distance to encounter and type of loss of velocity or height .
for instance: if you use magnetic levitation to propel a sewing needle to maximum velocity (we will call it 8000 Kmh) it would need to travel the distance equivalent to the moon (384,400km) to drop 4 inches from it's original trajectory.
keep in mind a standard sewing needle is made from composite metals (steel or aluminum,tin)
the sewing needle in our explanation would need to be made from weapons grade uranium and extremely dense to withstand the force caused from such speeds Perhaps the most hilarious example I have seen. This would hold true only if the sewing needle was made out of weapons grade uranium. Gotta love it. If
i actually did the calculations, if you prepend a standard sewing needle to 8000 km h it would literally disintegrate because tin lacks the particle density to hold up to such forces. it would need to be made of weapons grade uranium. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:08:00 -
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Death On Contact wrote:Ten-Sidhe wrote:No drop on rail gun, or travel time. All lead is due to lag. Travel time would make a larger difference then bullet drop at dust sniper rifle velocities, and less math to do it. I support adding travel time to rail sniper, and save bullet drop for minmatar(some buff to cancel out penalty of harder to hit target), amarr sniper(if ever added)should be hit scan but leave brilliant streak of laser light pointing out position when fired. Why would a weapons manufacturer develope a sniper rifle that would beam a light thus giving away a firing position let alone who the hell would buy it?! Lol.
Railguns in EVE have a bright blue-white "tracer" of sorts when they fire. It's not about realism -- nobody cares about realism. It's about gameplay, and making sniping more risky by making it impossible to snipe and stay hidden all game. But if you have to imagine it as being realistic, start from the fact that railguns in New Eden already have very bright and obvious tracers. So clearly, we can say, railgun technology they use is such that it produces a tracer effect when fired.
Incidentally, being hidden is not integral to being a sniper in a video game. Planetside 1 had bright orange-red tracers when you fired sniper rifles in it. It worked great, because it let people being shot at by a sniper know the direction the shots are coming from, and therefore what place would be safe cover and what wouldn't. |
Cameron StarGazer
Liandri Hel-Jumpers
Liandri Covenant
4
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Posted - 2012.10.31 02:18:00 -
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8,000 miles an hour... Piffle, that's only Mach 6.7, they have planes that fly faster than that now.
8,000 miles a second, or 4.2% the speed of light, now we are talking, 1 gram bullet traveling at that speed would hit its target with about 13,000 Newtons.
When you consider a traditional sniper round would hit with the force of 40 newtons... Major ouch time. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.31 07:57:00 -
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Chankk Saotome wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:
never underestimate CCP's hatred of Amarr.
Never underestimate ALL non-Amarr's hatred of the Amarr.
-»\_(pâä)_/-»
ohhhhhhhh
If your happy and you know it pod Amarr
If you cannot find Caldari pod Amarr
'cause the Mimi are to thrifty
and Gallente are to shifty
the Joves are just to risky
pod Amarr! |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.31 07:59:00 -
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Cameron StarGazer wrote:8,000 miles an hour... Piffle, that's only Mach 6.7, they have planes that fly faster than that now.
Not at ground level. Mach 6 or 7 at ground level means if it isn't plasma when it leaves the barrel, it will be when it hits the target. |
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