DUST Search - Thoughts on strafe fix (tweak)?

semperfi1999 wrote:

Rasatsu wrote:

Regis Mk V wrote:

Tony Calif wrote:

I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust.

The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but...

They are talking about fast-paced as compared to EVE, not MAG/COD/HALO.

You're playing what is going to be the spreedsheet nerds' version of an FPS.

I find this post hilarious.

But more to the point. Unfortunately this game will end up failing badly if the movement speeds remain slow and they keep their hitscan weapons. Any skilled FPS player will simply move on to a game that is more challenging. I agree that over the last few times I have played this game it is a "snooze fest". There is very little actual action going on. I find that I do alot better and I get far more WP/kills by setting up a campsite at a location that is close to both an objective and a resupply point. This definately does not make for a fast action packed game......also the fact that the enemy team always seems to have 6 snipers behind their redline way up in the mountains just annoys me to death.

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Ghost Mason Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 38	Posted - 2012.10.26 03:10:00 - [1] - Quote Well i haven't had the chance to play the game after today hotfix! The only thing that caught my attention was the fix for strafing speeds but i don't see anyone talking about this so for the ones that have played: Did strafing speed got fix? Do you feel any diference? Thanks
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.10.26 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote Can definitely feel a difference with the Scouts, was able to go like 12/3 with just a shotgun and scout suit, was pretty lulzy.
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.26 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote You feel a bit of a difference, I still say turning speed should be higher as well.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.26 03:32:00 - [4] - Quote I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust.
Noel Bellamy Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 36	Posted - 2012.10.26 03:34:00 - [5] - Quote I'm seeing a somewhat better survival rate in firefights, not by much though. shrug
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.10.26 04:12:00 - [6] - Quote Cloudy Zan wrote: You feel a bit of a difference, I still say turning speed should be higher as well. This At least, it varies from weapons
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.26 04:17:00 - [7] - Quote It looks like CCP found the 'sweet spot'. Not too fast like the precursor build and not too slow like the early codex build (pre-hotfix).
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2012.10.26 04:32:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah, I agree, but thanks to the super slow strafe my gun game finally got some work xD
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.26 06:17:00 - [9] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust. The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but...
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.10.26 06:33:00 - [10] - Quote Regis Mk V wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust. The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but... They are talking about fast-paced as compared to EVE, not MAG/COD/HALO. You're playing what is going to be the spreedsheet nerds' version of an FPS.

crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.26 06:35:00 - [11] - Quote for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.10.26 06:43:00 - [12] - Quote crazy space wrote: for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place. For the penultimate time, assault also got slightly nerfed.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.26 07:18:00 - [13] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: crazy space wrote: for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place. For the penultimate time, assault also got slightly nerfed. he's a horrible troll... he just makes crap up in his head and believes its true.. such a weird guy https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42530&find=unread crazy space, if you read that, it says they are fixing the assault and scout strafe speeds. please read, for the last time also, if you didn't know, assault and scouts were the only suits that were changed.. your such a sorry sack of potatoes
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.26 07:58:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: It looks like CCP found the 'sweet spot'. Not too fast like the precursor build and not too slow like the early codex build (pre-hotfix). Disagree, the game in general just lacks a feeling of speed. The fast and frantic combat they mention in the starter video isn't in evidence. Slow and laboured would describe it better. IMHO, precursor felt faster, but it hasn't been "fast and frantic" since Replication Sad face :(
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.10.26 13:19:00 - [15] - Quote They clearly aren't aiming for a fast and frantic speed of play, regardless of what some video mentions. So they may well have found a sweet spot, although obviously some people won't be satisfied until you're strafing as fast as you can sprint forward.
m621 zma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 22	Posted - 2012.10.26 15:00:00 - [16] - Quote Not noticing any difference on the assault suit either :(
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.26 15:18:00 - [17] - Quote m621 zma wrote: Not noticing any difference on the assault suit either :( Then use the logi suit, it was never changed.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.26 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Rasatsuthe wrote: crazy space wrote: for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place. For the penultimate time, assault also got slightly nerfed. Barely, people are just pysching themselfs out over this. people saying **** like "this new super slow strafe speed" are the ones making things up. It's a slight reducion does not equal super slow. They nerfed the op dance scout, get over it. Be glad the logi was always fast , and the scout got a buff. But honestly there is a chance they didn't change anything yet and your all crazy
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:00:00 - [19] - Quote crazy space wrote: for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place. WRONG! Assault was hit too. How can the assault suit assault when it moves like molasses?!?
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:02:00 - [20] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust. The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but... They are talking about fast-paced as compared to EVE, not MAG/COD/HALO. You're playing what is going to be the spreedsheet nerds' version of an FPS. Well that's more comforting to know I guess?

mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:05:00 - [21] - Quote Strafe speed was changed. For Scout suit, it was nerfed a lot. The Assault suit was also nerfed, but just slightly. CCP said they were buffing the strafe speed on scout. It does seem noticeably faster, but not as much as originally. I'd say, it's acceptable... but tbh, I hardly ever use the scout suit, so I'm not the best critic. CCP did NOT say they were buffing the assault back up. Not that big of a deal, since it was only mildly nerfed anyway.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:24:00 - [22] - Quote lolz will just retrain for hvy this is a snoozefest anyway now. Fast and frantic it aint.
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:27:00 - [23] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: lolz will just retrain for hvy this is a snoozefest anyway now. Fast and frantic it aint. Fast and frantic my ass lol did you see the new vid on IGN?
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:32:00 - [24] - Quote mikegunnz wrote: Strafe speed was changed. For Scout suit, it was nerfed a lot. The Assault suit was also nerfed, but just slightly. CCP said they were buffing the strafe speed on scout. It does seem noticeably faster, but not as much as originally. I'd say, it's acceptable... but tbh, I hardly ever use the scout suit, so I'm not the best critic. CCP did NOT say they were buffing the assault back up. Not that big of a deal, since it was only mildly nerfed anyway. wow a reply based on facts. bravo good sir
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:33:00 - [25] - Quote Regis Mk V wrote: crazy space wrote: for the last time, only scouts were changed in the 1st place. WRONG! Assault was hit too. How can the assault suit assault when it moves like molasses?!? IT was barely changed, and you use the logi suit if you want the old movement speed of the assault.
m621 zma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 22	Posted - 2012.10.26 16:34:00 - [26] - Quote crazy space wrote: m621 zma wrote: Not noticing any difference on the assault suit either :( Then use the logi suit, it was never changed. What? Are you ********? Assault used to have quicker strafe speed than logi - if they didn't tweak assault in the hotfix then assault, logi and heavy all still have identical strafe speed.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2012.10.26 17:12:00 - [27] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust. The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but... They are talking about fast-paced as compared to EVE, not MAG/COD/HALO. You're playing what is going to be the spreedsheet nerds' version of an FPS. I find this post hilarious. But more to the point. Unfortunately this game will end up failing badly if the movement speeds remain slow and they keep their hitscan weapons. Any skilled FPS player will simply move on to a game that is more challenging. I agree that over the last few times I have played this game it is a "snooze fest". There is very little actual action going on. I find that I do alot better and I get far more WP/kills by setting up a campsite at a location that is close to both an objective and a resupply point. This definately does not make for a fast action packed game......also the fact that the enemy team always seems to have 6 snipers behind their redline way up in the mountains just annoys me to death.
8404-0000 GREEN Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.10.26 17:20:00 - [28] - Quote game felt much better, less like looking through a peephole at the world and more like I was actually moving in it. Good deal.
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2012.10.26 17:23:00 - [29] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Rasatsu wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I haven't noticed a huge difference with the assault suits... if there is any difference. But then again I played MAG. Which is 2-3 times the speed and pace of Dust. The funny thing is CCP says the gameplay for this game is fast and frantic when it's anything but... They are talking about fast-paced as compared to EVE, not MAG/COD/HALO. You're playing what is going to be the spreedsheet nerds' version of an FPS. I find this post hilarious. But more to the point. Unfortunately this game will end up failing badly if the movement speeds remain slow and they keep their hitscan weapons. Any skilled FPS player will simply move on to a game that is more challenging. I agree that over the last few times I have played this game it is a "snooze fest". There is very little actual action going on. I find that I do alot better and I get far more WP/kills by setting up a campsite at a location that is close to both an objective and a resupply point. This definately does not make for a fast action packed game......also the fact that the enemy team always seems to have 6 snipers behind their redline way up in the mountains just annoys me to death. ^^This this so much this. This is why I really can't be "constructive" with CCP because everything they do makes the game worse then they false advertise it's combat.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 126	Posted - 2012.10.26 19:09:00 - [30] - Quote Strafe speed were increased for the scout and assult and seems well balenced now scout can now hold its own if it is good at what it does and it no longer trumps a assult using cover, IMO it is in the middle ground now and if speed is increased more then other thing will need to be balenced such as hip fire accuracy, ADS vrs hip fire and all that and in fairness that is a whole heap of things to go wrong no?

Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.27 00:46:00 - [31] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: It looks like CCP found the 'sweet spot'. Not too fast like the precursor build and not too slow like the early codex build (pre-hotfix). Disagree, the game in general just lacks a feeling of speed. The fast and frantic combat they mention in the starter video isn't in evidence. Slow and laboured would describe it better. IMHO, precursor felt faster, but it hasn't been "fast and frantic" since Replication Sad face :( 'Speed' is relative. What is slow for you could be fast for me (perhaps I'm getting old) or to someone else. Besides, the precursor build had too high of a strafe speed and resulted in mercs dancing around each other like a bunch of baboons. If you're talking about forward speed like sprinting, I don't think it's slow paced. It just feels that way because we mostly fight in open maps.


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