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Sarra Jardox
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:59:00 -
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Santana is right about his theory. small blasters need more range and railguns need some sort of tracers. If I could see where my shots were going I'd prefer railguns actually as they hit instantly. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:59:00 -
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Make missiles vehicle/installation lock on only and let them track, just like swarm missiles -- since apparently those were "too powerful" too.
/solved. |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:01:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:I jumped in a dropship today and went 30-0 without any turret/missile skills. There is something seriously wrong with that. The dropships are the gods of this game. If you get blown up by a dropship its because the "gods" are displeased with you.
The missile launcher on the dropships need a huge nerf.
the KITTEH they dont!!! they soft enough as is if the general consensus is too stupid to realize that swarm launcher is not their only way to take down dropships then they all deserve to die horribly. if dropships get a nerf they would be more fragile then LAV's |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:04:00 -
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Simply change them for mass drivers. Now they'll clear a landing zone, but be crap at range.
Changes to blasters and railguns in this thread seem sound. No damage changes, just visual feedback. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:15:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:No the problem is that dropships can outrun swarm launchers indefinitely.
We need Missile Bombardment and Missile Projection skills, like in EVE, to boost missile flight time and velocity on Swarm Launchers. You clearly havent shot swarms at a drop ship today since the hot fix. While its easier to kill now drop ships also die way more easily because swarms are fast as kittens.
Swarms are fast and the ships are slow. They wallow at their laughable service ceiling of a couple hundred feet. At that height they can barely move forward as they are using every ounce of thrust just staying up. Tilt forward to accelerate and you lose enough altitude to strike any moderately tall object or hill. Speed up on the craig ap and you are forced down at the level of the rocks.
One hit they are tossed around like a rag doll, slammed into objects or made easy prey for another set of swarms.
I tried sneaking around low, but the first set to hit my ship invariably slammed it into terrain. It didn't matter if I could sustain the missile damage, I couldn't sustain the collision.
I'm trying to adapt, but it isn't working so far.
I'm thinking true adaptation might require HAV's or tricked out LAV's with killer missile turrets. Look for those to be nerfed next. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:17:00 -
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Bah this crap again. people complain mainly cause they think they are aible to shot down a high end dropship with a militia swarm launcher. Watch out what you want otherwise we have another tank sceanrio where armor tanks have beeing sacrificed. Seriously you can take out any armor tank with a militia swarm launcher and i dont want this to happend to dropships. As long the AV grenade bug is there i will pilot my dropship end of the line. Simply cause Av grenades are not capable of flying 20 meters into the air. You guys complain about dropships but did you took a look on other vehicles? I tried to field a Saga LAV just with the result that every 1 spams av grenades on the ground and the same goes with tanks. You guys only cry about missiles are OP cause they hit you from above and not from infront where you can hide in cover and do pop shots with a swarm launcher or forgegun. Another thing is that swarms fly around corners which is just brutal for LAV's and annoying for tank drivers. Make the swarms like on the E3 build and we have a perfect balance against aireal and ground vehicles. And in real life if you get shot by a RPG you get ripped apart. Those are vehicle high power weapons. If you nerf missiles then you have the same situation like with railguns or blasters. Any more nerfing to vehicles will make them useless to 100%. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:20:00 -
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The issue is not with the dropships. It's with the swarm launchers not reaching their targets in time because they are too slow. |
Sarra Jardox
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:20:00 -
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Well Tony we did say more range for blasters would be good thts neither a dmg buff or a visual feedback change. For now just temp increase swarm speed as long as their speed isn't relative to the dropship I saw in another thread tht someone using afterburners got outrun by swarms which shouldn't happen IMO, missiles can't magically speed up mid flight. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.25 05:26:00 -
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Actually, if they make launchers generate heat like the Railgun and blaster turrets do, it'd probably go a long way to keep people from spamming them constantly. Or at least reserve them to shooting other vehicles, or installations, or large threats. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:51:00 -
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10 seconds of carelessness in a dropship will see you shot out of the sky. That doesn't even factor in forge guns, or the fact that a dropship outrunning swarms isn't all that effective at anything else.
There definitely needs to be some changes to their presence on the field, and a turret nerf definitely isn't one of them. |
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RC assault blazin
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.10.25 08:26:00 -
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Omg stop crying!! |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.25 09:45:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:*sigh*....More of this?
Don't use a swarm launcher to take out the dropship then.
i know, i don't believe people are still trying this... As soon as i saw a dropship easily out run my swarms at the start of this build, guess what? I USED FORGE GUN! And i haven't looked back since.. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
164
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Posted - 2012.10.25 10:26:00 -
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Yes I hate getting hit by rocket rain. But I know they hate when I hit them with two quick shots from my forge gun. They hunt me while I hunt them. Works for me.
Though it would be nice if they made other weapon turrets more viable. |
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