DUST Search - So much negative threads on the general discussions these days

Jotun Hiem wrote:

Forums just tend to be like that.

The Killzone 3 forums were absolute hell when I still bothered to look at them, and that game was about as polished as FPS games get, so abundant negativity on a Beta doesn't really surprise me.

The WoW forums also had a tendency to be pretty dramatic/angsty. X got killed by Y so Y obviously deserves a nerf even when it's intended to be X's counter. "Why is multi-boxing allowed?" every other day. "I QUIT WAAAAHA!" every twelve hours, with one in one thousand of those even being legible while some listed reasons for quitting that didn't exist (I really wish I was kidding) or were a result of user error. People expecting instant service from a GM when there's literally a million people online. The only shelter from any of this was the Role Play forum, which died a little before Cataclysm launched.

Competitively, while the DUST forums are indeed overwhelmingly negative, they do tend to at least be slightly constructive. Most of the time.

EDIT: The WoW forums weren't quite as bad as I'm making them out to be. There were plenty of civil, even nice people who frequented there, but damn if the squeaky wheel doesn't squeak loud enough to bust your eardrums.

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Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.22 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail
Phoenix Arakyd Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2012.10.22 17:03:00 - [2] - Quote Some people are too busy trying to get everything in the game nerfed.
Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.22 17:07:00 - [3] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: Some people are too busy trying to get everything in the game nerfed. I did mention rebuffing items
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.10.22 17:34:00 - [4] - Quote Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail Bad feedback is also feedback, exploit , backstabbing, nerf, boost, its all feedback. I useally look at stats for the server, check out the gameplay , found something intreressting last night, and I like to give feedback. People quiting is also feedback, lag , hitbox, crash. I love it, but the most important is that CCP keeps on the focus and make the game they planned. I am not here for CCP only they are here for me too, they must give me something and I will react to it, its symbiose, CCP need us and we might need them, its up to them to react on all the feedback given. And do not give me the WE ARE THE CHOOSEN ONES, all my mates that have applied to dust have had the code 4 minuts later, they need us and we might react to what they give us. No one of us must go on the high horse and judge all, I embraise you all Welcome to DUST/EVE .
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:20:00 - [5] - Quote People are getting a little fed up of posting informative threads only for them to be totaly ignored and having the opposite of what is being asked done to the game. This is why the rage and negative posts are now in abundance.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:25:00 - [6] - Quote Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail Rage threads aren't the most effective, but they still have a point. If someone complains about a lacking feature, is it any less true than if they posted calmly? Either way the feature is still lacking. As far as 'fun' is concerned, when the game comes out everyone wants to be having fun. If the game isn't fun to play in beta, how will it be fun to play after release?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:31:00 - [7] - Quote Posting negative response in negative thread about negativity.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:46:00 - [8] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Posting negative response in negative thread about negativity. Best so far
Ghost-33 ShootBreakStab 108	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:50:00 - [9] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Posting negative response in negative thread about negativity. That makes a positive right?
Kay High ZionTCD Legacy Rising 86	Posted - 2012.10.22 19:56:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost-33 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Posting negative response in negative thread about negativity. That makes a positive right? no it is still a negaive since there is an odd number of negatives. -1-1=1-1=-1

Sponge- Bob 40	Posted - 2012.10.22 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail THIS GAME SUCKS. IF IT WAS GOOD WE WOULD NOT HAVE SO MANY NEGATIVE THREADS
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.22 20:27:00 - [12] - Quote Sponge- Bob wrote: Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail THIS GAME SUCKS. IF IT WAS GOOD WE WOULD NOT HAVE SO MANY NEGATIVE THREADS Just go away already.. no one cares about your opinion here..
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.22 20:57:00 - [13] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Sponge- Bob wrote: Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail THIS GAME SUCKS. IF IT WAS GOOD WE WOULD NOT HAVE SO MANY NEGATIVE THREADS Just go away already.. no one cares about your opinion here.. you didnt work it out yet?
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.22 21:40:00 - [14] - Quote Nstomper wrote: It seems to me like some people of this beta has totally forgotten what our job is , or job isn't to have fun though some do, our job is to test and to give feedback and ideas , in other terms we are the support role in this project. I fail to see how rage threads , and threads with people complaining and comparing this dust to the old is helping out. How about posting more threads that ACTUALLY help CCP out in telling them what we want to see in the game , and ask them to rebuff some of the things like the heavy suit . As for the people who feel like they can't handle being in a REAL beta then no one is stopping you from leaving , leave the guys who actually care about dust's future stay. please remember before you post another rage thread , remember what our purpose of being here is for , we were granted the permissions to participate in this beta by receiving a code in the mail A load of nonsense. People have been advising ccp what they would like to see addressed in the core game play, build to build. If such people are ex MAG, the EvE people just abuse them, and make idiotic posts criticizing or calling the request stupid. Or they say "why can't you guys be constructive". The situation is ridiculous and the game is not improving. Here is the list of things to fix in terms of core game play, because obviously you ignore threads where these issues have been raised time and time again. - player counts too low - awful graphics - poor matchmaking logic - frame rate issues - lag issues - weapon mechanics issues - over powered vehicles - poor grouping mechanics - games ending prematurely when clone counts are still high both sides - lack of proxy chat for trash talking scrubs - general poor quality and not entertaining The problem here is that CCP is not focusing on the core game play enough. They focus on items, market, EvE inter connectivity, gimmicky events and neglect the CORE FPS GAME PLAY, for which a HIGH DEGREE of QUALITY is required to be successful.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.10.22 23:57:00 - [15] - Quote rule one of any FPS shooter, DO NOT LESSIEN TO APPARENT HARDCORE FAN BASE. instead get in game yourself and see what is and is not working and what's been spoken about on chat, arrange matches with top level corps and run around in pub matches. forums are a good place for ideas, and how the game feels, but my god never listen to it for nerfs and buffs unless it EVERYBODY agrees its op including the people using it, example proto laser rifles :P. if your fan base is whinnying you probably messed up the core game play and that why everybody is on the forum instead of in the game first person shooter fan bases are some of the worse as everybody thinks their chosen gun is underpowered and everyone else is overpowered. also dont math balance, instead go for the feel of balance as thats what people care about, if everybody feels something is OP when the maths says it not, your maths is wrong
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.23 00:10:00 - [16] - Quote Watching battlestar galactica is more fun than playing dust
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2012.10.23 02:35:00 - [17] - Quote Forums just tend to be like that. The Killzone 3 forums were absolute hell when I still bothered to look at them, and that game was about as polished as FPS games get, so abundant negativity on a Beta doesn't really surprise me. The WoW forums also had a tendency to be pretty dramatic/angsty. X got killed by Y so Y obviously deserves a nerf even when it's intended to be X's counter. "Why is multi-boxing allowed?" every other day. "I QUIT WAAAAHA!" every twelve hours, with one in one thousand of those even being legible while some listed reasons for quitting that didn't exist (I really wish I was kidding) or were a result of user error. People expecting instant service from a GM when there's literally a million people online. The only shelter from any of this was the Role Play forum, which died a little before Cataclysm launched. Competitively, while the DUST forums are indeed overwhelmingly negative, they do tend to at least be slightly constructive. Most of the time. EDIT: The WoW forums weren't quite as bad as I'm making them out to be. There were plenty of civil, even nice people who frequented there, but damn if the squeaky wheel doesn't squeak loud enough to bust your eardrums.
Governor Odius Doomheim 177	Posted - 2012.10.23 02:42:00 - [18] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: Watching battlestar galactica is more fun than playing dust Are you talking about the early episodes when it was an awesome military sci-fi or the later episodes where it was all about prophesies and god?
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2012.10.23 02:52:00 - [19] - Quote You may want to take a look at DustUniCon
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.23 04:38:00 - [20] - Quote Governor Odius wrote: Brahma El Indio wrote: Watching battlestar galactica is more fun than playing dust Are you talking about the early episodes when it was an awesome military sci-fi or the later episodes where it was all about prophesies and god? Early.

Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.23 04:45:00 - [21] - Quote How is this thread still active? I posted it hours ago
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2012.10.23 04:53:00 - [22] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Forums just tend to be like that. The Killzone 3 forums were absolute hell when I still bothered to look at them, and that game was about as polished as FPS games get, so abundant negativity on a Beta doesn't really surprise me. The WoW forums also had a tendency to be pretty dramatic/angsty. X got killed by Y so Y obviously deserves a nerf even when it's intended to be X's counter. "Why is multi-boxing allowed?" every other day. "I QUIT WAAAAHA!" every twelve hours, with one in one thousand of those even being legible while some listed reasons for quitting that didn't exist (I really wish I was kidding) or were a result of user error. People expecting instant service from a GM when there's literally a million people online. The only shelter from any of this was the Role Play forum, which died a little before Cataclysm launched. Competitively, while the DUST forums are indeed overwhelmingly negative, they do tend to at least be slightly constructive. Most of the time. EDIT: The WoW forums weren't quite as bad as I'm making them out to be. There were plenty of civil, even nice people who frequented there, but damn if the squeaky wheel doesn't squeak loud enough to bust your eardrums. KZ3 sucked I alpha tested it. Everybody else that was part of the alpha test agreed that the game sucked. That's why the forums were so negative. This game isn't too far off from becoming similar to the KZ3 forums if CCP doesn't pull change core mechanics with next build.


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