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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2012.10.22 01:26:00 -
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As part of an Anti-Aircraft experiment, I fitted an LAV with a light railgun this weekend (standard, and with hybrid turret operation at II before people start talking about using militia)
First, I would like to say that it takes a good deal of practice to even HIT a dropship with one of these things, but that isn't really the problem.
The problem is, when it does hit, it doesn't even phase the dropship. As of right now, light railguns do slightly more damage than light missile launchers- about 300 for standards- thats about the same as a standard swarm launcher. Except, unlike swarm launchers and small missile turrets, light railguns have to be charged up, have a tiny blast radius and next to no splash damage, and don't shake up dropships like missiles do.
Why exactly is an AV-specific weapon, which has to be mounted on a vehicle, less effective than infantry-held weapons and turrets meant for a generalist use?
I believe that light railguns need a slight damage boost- at least by 50.
EDIT: and/or increase the range |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:37:00 -
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Railgun's are ok. Their real selling point is that they can be used for long distance engagements where missiles are impractical due to slow speeds and can be avoided at range. Even the accelerated missile launcher is a little slow after about 300 meters. small rails need a damage boost |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:00:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:Railgun's are ok. Their real selling point is that they can be used for long distance engagements where missiles are impractical due to slow speeds and can be avoided at range. Even the accelerated missile launcher is a little slow after about 300 meters. small rails need a damage boost I know regular railguns are ok. I'm saying that with how small rails are listed as an AV turret, they might as well deal significantly more damage than non-av turrets. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.23 11:05:00 -
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I agree. They should be a viable long range AV option. They already have the long range going for them, but the dps really leaves a lot to be desired. I disagree about them rocking the target though. Explosives have that ability for obvious reasons, that railguns don't have. Plus, the relative inability to dodge rail shots would turn dropship journeys into pinball. |
Kaminoikari
Wrath of Omnipotent Beings
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:12:00 -
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I agree with OP. +1 |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.10.23 21:39:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I agree. They should be a viable long range AV option. They already have the long range going for them, but the dps really leaves a lot to be desired. I disagree about them rocking the target though. Explosives have that ability for obvious reasons, that railguns don't have. Plus, the relative inability to dodge rail shots would turn dropship journeys into pinball.
As far as not being able to dodge rail shots, that's not a problem- if you've ever tried taking a dropship down with one, there actually is a bit of a delay after you fire before it goes where you want it (not sure why, but you can see them exploding in the air near the dropship, not doing damage, but just hanging there like a cloud of flak)
As far as rocking a dropship, I think it would make sense that a projectile moving at that speed would rock a dropship- unless ofc it's a very small round.
EDIT: well, I guess in the future I can attempt to work some magic with artillery to rock one. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:As part of an Anti-Aircraft experiment, I fitted an LAV with a light railgun this weekend (standard, and with hybrid turret operation at II before people start talking about using militia)
First, I would like to say that it takes a good deal of practice to even HIT a dropship with one of these things, but that isn't really the problem.
The problem is, when it does hit, it doesn't even phase the dropship. As of right now, light railguns do slightly more damage than light missile launchers- about 300 for standards- thats about the same as a standard swarm launcher. Except, unlike swarm launchers and small missile turrets, light railguns have to be charged up, have a tiny blast radius and next to no splash damage, and don't shake up dropships like missiles do.
Why exactly is an AV-specific weapon, which has to be mounted on a vehicle, less effective than infantry-held weapons and turrets meant for a generalist use?
I believe that light railguns need a slight damage boost- at least by 50. at least by 100 in my opinion |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:55:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:As part of an Anti-Aircraft experiment, I fitted an LAV with a light railgun this weekend (standard, and with hybrid turret operation at II before people start talking about using militia)
First, I would like to say that it takes a good deal of practice to even HIT a dropship with one of these things, but that isn't really the problem.
The problem is, when it does hit, it doesn't even phase the dropship. As of right now, light railguns do slightly more damage than light missile launchers- about 300 for standards- thats about the same as a standard swarm launcher. Except, unlike swarm launchers and small missile turrets, light railguns have to be charged up, have a tiny blast radius and next to no splash damage, and don't shake up dropships like missiles do.
Why exactly is an AV-specific weapon, which has to be mounted on a vehicle, less effective than infantry-held weapons and turrets meant for a generalist use?
I believe that light railguns need a slight damage boost- at least by 50. at least by 100 in my opinion If that works, great. But I think 100 may be a bit much. 50 is just enough to give them a noticeable advantage over missiles. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.25 23:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:As part of an Anti-Aircraft experiment, I fitted an LAV with a light railgun this weekend (standard, and with hybrid turret operation at II before people start talking about using militia)
First, I would like to say that it takes a good deal of practice to even HIT a dropship with one of these things, but that isn't really the problem.
The problem is, when it does hit, it doesn't even phase the dropship. As of right now, light railguns do slightly more damage than light missile launchers- about 300 for standards- thats about the same as a standard swarm launcher. Except, unlike swarm launchers and small missile turrets, light railguns have to be charged up, have a tiny blast radius and next to no splash damage, and don't shake up dropships like missiles do.
Why exactly is an AV-specific weapon, which has to be mounted on a vehicle, less effective than infantry-held weapons and turrets meant for a generalist use?
I believe that light railguns need a slight damage boost- at least by 50. at least by 100 in my opinion If that works, great. But I think 100 may be a bit much. 50 is just enough to give them a noticeable advantage over missiles. A large buff like that would make tanks want to put small railguns on so they can survive more tank battles. with turrets not focusing on infantry people will think they arent just some kind of insta kill thing that is exteremely OP. if people think like that then we will be able to buff tanks and every one would be happy. although to make sure the railgun turret operator and AVs dont loose interest, wp earned from damaging tanks needs to occur 3x as much as it does now and still give 25 wp per pop up. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:18:00 -
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I dont know, I've found the best way to fit out even a basic Sica is to have the front turret be a missile launcher, with the upper rotating defensive turret being a decent blaster turret. I'd use the small rails on the front mount for AV, if they were half way decent. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:51:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:As part of an Anti-Aircraft experiment, I fitted an LAV with a light railgun this weekend (standard, and with hybrid turret operation at II before people start talking about using militia)
First, I would like to say that it takes a good deal of practice to even HIT a dropship with one of these things, but that isn't really the problem.
The problem is, when it does hit, it doesn't even phase the dropship. As of right now, light railguns do slightly more damage than light missile launchers- about 300 for standards- thats about the same as a standard swarm launcher. Except, unlike swarm launchers and small missile turrets, light railguns have to be charged up, have a tiny blast radius and next to no splash damage, and don't shake up dropships like missiles do.
Why exactly is an AV-specific weapon, which has to be mounted on a vehicle, less effective than infantry-held weapons and turrets meant for a generalist use?
I believe that light railguns need a slight damage boost- at least by 50. at least by 100 in my opinion I've done some more thinking and looking at numbers- 100 would be a better choice, or 50 with more range. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.27 17:41:00 -
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Blasters also need more love |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.10.28 16:31:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Blasters also need more love more range/accuracy at least |
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