DUST Search - Crybabies ruining this game

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken.
ISK has 0 value now
now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue.

dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh.
At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side.

my 0.02 ISK

Yeah, I don't get how dudes can feel that it's all right. If they allow isk transfers, then it should be a serious cap. Because it will really kill the experience of grinding up ISK. Or, playing with dropsuits to make sure you're profiting each game, etc. That part is like 50% of the thrill of this game. Cause frankly, the gameplay isn't the best out yet so we play for the other reasons as a supplement.

And to the OP, this is the beta.....motherkittens has to speak up when something is effed up. And this is effed up

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Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:22:00 - [1] - Quote Whah, someone has more ISK...SP....guns.... than me, CCpz nerfz it now plz.
Sponge- Bob 40	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:23:00 - [2] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Whah, someone has more ISK...SP....guns.... than me, CCpz nerfz it now plz. CLASSIC PARAN THREAD LOL
The Xenochrist Doomheim 6	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:26:00 - [3] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Whah, someone has more ISK...SP....guns.... than me, CCpz nerfz it now plz. That is dust CCP will hold your hand every step of the way.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:27:00 - [4] - Quote Sponge- Bob wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Whah, someone has more ISK...SP....guns.... than me, CCpz nerfz it now plz. CLASSIC PARAN THREAD LOL Classic hide behind my alt. *****.
Sponge- Bob 40	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:33:00 - [5] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Sponge- Bob wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Whah, someone has more ISK...SP....guns.... than me, CCpz nerfz it now plz. CLASSIC PARAN THREAD LOL Classic hide behind my alt. *****. Classic hide behind my drop ship or four man squad= NO GUN GAME
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:56:00 - [6] - Quote squarepants is his main.
Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:59:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Transferring ISK from an EVE account to a DUST account is unintended behaviour. I would recommend the corporations who have done this to leave it in their corporation wallets while we investigate. CCP Openly admits this was an exploit. GG
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:59:00 - [8] - Quote tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK
Fargen Icehole SyNergy Gaming 67	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:13:00 - [9] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK Maybe even somthing as simple as a "tax". Something like 25%? Eve capsuleer gives 1billion isk (which from what I understand is a lot, but not THAT much in EVE) .. Dust corp gets 750mil isk. Still a lot for Dust, but it'll make Eve players at least think about it.
Blue Buggs L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:41:00 - [10] - Quote . Eternal Technique wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: Transferring ISK from an EVE account to a DUST account is unintended behaviour. I would recommend the corporations who have done this to leave it in their corporation wallets while we investigate. CCP Openly admits this was an exploit. GG You also forgot to add this bit on from the same thread, from the very same CCP Nullarbor. The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied.However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that. So as its something that shouldnt be happening, were not exactally to blame on this one. CCP have said they will take this one as there fault as I understand it from his post.

Waruiko DUST G I A N T 90	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:47:00 - [11] - Quote Fargen Icehole wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK Maybe even somthing as simple as a "tax". Something like 25%? Eve capsuleer gives 1billion isk (which from what I understand is a lot, but not THAT much in EVE) .. Dust corp gets 750mil isk. Still a lot for Dust, but it'll make Eve players at least think about it. The issue was not that it happened. The issue is that I could say log in to SIS on EVE, go to low sec in any system that has stations seeding EVE items. Buy a Dreadnought for 100 ISK. If I have the ISK Insure the Dread as best I can. Go outside and self destruct which will take about 3ish minutes. Because EVE uses value of building materials to determine Insurance prices and rewards and even uninsured you get 40% of that value I will get enough ISK to cause some serious problems on DUST no matter what. The Dreds for example are roughly valued at about 2 Billion ISK each. Even if you can't fly Dreds you could get 50 Mill or better a go from Battle Cruisers or up to four times that in Battle Ships. If anyone has an EVE Alt Super Cap Sitting they could blast that and even uninsured are they are (not being dockable to insure) they should get at least 20 Billion for that one ship. Were we on tranquility we wouldn't be having this issue because the investment would be very real. The Issue isn't, "EVE Players are bankrolling Dust Corps." The Issue is, "EVE players are making ISK appear out of thin air." CCP seems to think this will wreck out nonexistent economy. I personally stand by the idea that until we can at least buy and sell directly to each other, or lacking that to pool our gear as a corp and not just our ISK we have no economy to ruin.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:48:00 - [12] - Quote Just the ISK part. Because seriously, who wants tank and dropship spam in a tourny?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:39:00 - [13] - Quote this game is based around assets rather then skill.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:57:00 - [14] - Quote This is just about the isk whiners. Sick of every post on here whining about something.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.21 19:41:00 - [15] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK Yeah, I don't get how dudes can feel that it's all right. If they allow isk transfers, then it should be a serious cap. Because it will really kill the experience of grinding up ISK. Or, playing with dropsuits to make sure you're profiting each game, etc. That part is like 50% of the thrill of this game. Cause frankly, the gameplay isn't the best out yet so we play for the other reasons as a supplement. And to the OP, this is the beta.....motherkittens has to speak up when something is effed up. And this is effed up
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:22:00 - [16] - Quote question how are going to stop this one live hits, cuz all it will take is silly corp contracts and vola same issue
Jimbo Boilstaff Algintal Core Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:50:00 - [17] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: question how are going to stop this one live hits, cuz all it will take is silly corp contracts and vola same issue good question,,, im hoping recent events have given them some good ideas on how to proceed with this..... A perception of an unfair economy will not sit well with new players and is a potentially game-breaking issue (look at the trading fraud that happened in DCUO for a similar example but in a 'live' game)..... Trouble is,,, its all the 'serious' players that have exploited this problem,,, so there'll be an influencial contingent still argueing that they did nothing wrong here...... I'm interested to know...... In EVE,, what is the definition of exploiting??? Does the fact you didnt realise it was an exploit make you innocent?? Whats done is done,, but what happens in the future is important..... Also be interesting to know which corps did it the most, as in my opinion doing this so soon after the rules were published for the tournament.... any people that abused this mechanism put ALL others in their corp at risk (its ok now CCP apparently said its ok,,, but what about the next thing?)
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:25:00 - [18] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK Yeah, I don't get how dudes can feel that it's all right. If they allow isk transfers, then it should be a serious cap. Because it will really kill the experience of grinding up ISK. Or, playing with dropsuits to make sure you're profiting each game, etc. That part is like 50% of the thrill of this game. Cause frankly, the gameplay isn't the best out yet so we play for the other reasons as a supplement. And to the OP, this is the beta.....motherkittens has to speak up when something is effed up. And this is effed up Because grinding for isk is so much fun. Instead of using my hard earned isk to get gear to grind for better gear, it should be used for galactic conquest. If you didnt know it by now, eve is a cold dark cuttthroat universe where anything goes, even in highsec, even with ccp's nerfs to highest of late. HONESTLY, tell me what you are gonna do when the large alliances in the game are bankrolling campaigns on planets? Will you continue to cry because you called them all evetards and they dont wanna hire you now? Ask yourself which is better, a game where you are in control of everything you do, or a game where you are held by your hand being lead around and told what to do.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:32:00 - [19] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: tbqh i dont know HOW ppl can defend the ISK transfers its broken. ISK has 0 value now now im not against it but u need some sort of conversion rate from EVE ISK to DUST ISK to make capsuleers think twice about just dumping ISK that means squat to them to mercs that it means they can fund top end gear in pubs and be careless with it cuz its a non issue. dont see how ppl can defend that tbqh. At least this happened in beta so the devs can see that if they do intend to have ISK transfers then the ISK cant be the same value planet side as it is space side. my 0.02 ISK i don't know how you forget your place dust bunny EVE capsuleer to dust bunny interaction isk goes to the dust pocket corps, if you are apart of it. congratulations you are funded, if not you will be left in the.. dust. this goes to all the people that said skills and KDR matter, guess what. ISK makes the world go around.


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