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Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:55:00 -
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I haz 1 billion isk. What about you? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:57:00 -
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What a waste tbh
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:57:00 -
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I have about three million, but I don't need any of it, and it will continue to accumulate because I have no use for it, so I don't really see how you could possibly need one billion ISK. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:58:00 -
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wow, mind sharing the wealth? |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:59:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:wow, mind sharing the wealth? gotta believe in the Dust fairies first. They granted me this wealth.
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:03:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:wow, mind sharing the wealth?
Join my corp, the first 20 get 200 million each :P
And I did that BECAUSE I want to test what excessive access to EVE ISK can do.
Does it make the game easier. Not a lot, if at all. The limiting factor is still SP. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:04:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:I haz 1 billion isk. What about you?
More... |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:08:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:wow, mind sharing the wealth? gotta believe in the Dust fairies first. They granted me this wealth.
Would said fairies be capsuleers? ;) |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:09:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:wow, mind sharing the wealth? gotta believe in the Dust fairies first. They granted me this wealth. Would said fairies be capsuleers? ;)
They would have to be. You just can't generate that much ISK in DUST at the moment. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:10:00 -
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This is not eve isk. Its isk from the test server where free isk is everywhere.
SI will not be doing this as it seems a clear exploit.
No one worked for the isk so if this is not an exploit then isk has no value.
If isk has no value then why was it included as a reward for winning the tourny?
Edit: My fairys on the gound tell me many a corp has this false isk already sitting in thier corp wallets. Even some CEO's are taking a lead at the isk printing press.
Torny needs to have unlimited isk for all involved or all funds tracked down and removed from all corps involved. |
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:14:00 -
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money is a token remember that, just like virtual goods. a token of trust. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:15:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:This is not eve isk. Its isk from the test server where free isk is everywhere.
SI will not be doing this as it seems a clear exploit.
No one worked for the isk so if this is not an exploit then isk has no value.
If isk has no value then why was it included as a reward for winning the tourny?
Oh, do get off the horse. it needs testing. It is not an exploit as far as we've been told.
One vital aspect of gameplay is to see what having a sugar daddy in the sky (EVE corp/alliance or rich toon) will do to a DUST corp. In that scheme, a billion ISK is not really a lot. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:16:00 -
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All isk in dust and eve has to be worked for hence it has value.
Isk from the test server is unlimmited and requires no work.
Its a clear exploit and everyone who has a clue knows its a very very big exploit. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:18:00 -
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Hey I'm happy to transfer funds if its not an exploit no high horse at all. As it stands tho its very very unclear. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:18:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:All isk in dust and eve has to be worked for hence it has value.
Isk from the test server is unlimmited and requires no work.
Its a clear exploit and everyone who has a clue knows its a very very big exploit.
Exactly, it is a TEST server, where everything is dirt cheap and ISK is EASY to get by, in order to allow people to TEST more expensive items. Of course when we get to the next build everything will be wiped, isk and all, at which point we'll probably be on TQ. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:18:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Hey I'm happy to transfer funds if its not an exploit no high horse at all. As it stands tho its very very unclear.
did they really do that?
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:20:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Hey I'm happy to transfer funds if its not an exploit no high horse at all. As it stands tho its very very unclear. did they really do that?
Do what?
ISK transfer from corp wallet is easy. No convoluted workaround or loopholes that needs to be tripped in order to get it done. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:21:00 -
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ok did some ******* dumbarse really allow this to go live? i bet hes got a phd. lota good that did him eh. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:22:00 -
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Do people understand its unlimited ?
Its not like some one up in space is loosing isk doing this. Its 100% free.
Lol well get ready for unlimmited proto gear and tank spam. |
v3k3v
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
24
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:24:00 -
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Well if you take advantage of it and be stupid then yes its a problem.. if you send yourself 10 mil i dont see the the problem. Its those generating extra isk on sisi and transferring it to dust that are pretty much making it a exploit.
Eventually sending isk into dust from eve will be 100% normal and so as it stands this is a good test and this will be wiped and it is a beta test |
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:26:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Do people understand its unlimited ?
Its not like some one up in space is loosing isk doing this. Its 100% free.
Lol well get ready for unlimmited proto gear and tank spam.
bet you sound like hawkin on voice chat. nothing is free understand that.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:26:00 -
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CCP needs to step in and make this one clear. I dont care of the result I just want to know what the score is. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:27:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Do people understand its unlimited ?
Its not like some one up in space is loosing isk doing this. Its 100% free.
Lol well get ready for unlimmited proto gear and tank spam. bet you sound like hawkin on voice chat. nothing is free understand that.
Lolz i really dont have any time for..... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:27:00 -
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Do you have any idea how many tanks, LAVs, dropships and prototype suits you have to lose to actually burn through 1 Billion ISK before the next (and final) wipe? |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:27:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:CCP needs to step in and make this one clear. I dont care of the result I just want to know what the score is. Which is why I posted the question on General Chat, asking for clarification. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Do you have any idea how many tanks, LAVs, dropships and prototype suits you have to lose to actually burn through 1 Billion ISK before the next (and final) wipe?
A lot |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Do you have any idea how many tanks, LAVs, dropships and prototype suits you have to lose to actually burn through 1 Billion ISK before the next (and final) wipe? or how much isk that would put into this economy................ prometheus......... |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:29:00 -
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ISK should be earned, not exported from people that pay a monthly fee to CCP to make their Dust character rich. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:29:00 -
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I have 3 million isk, some guy gave me a million isk.. thanks man wherever/whoever you are! |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:30:00 -
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tbh this is what it's gonna be like when eve and dust come together. Eve has so much money compared to dust, it's prob best to do this now on a test server to find out plausible sink holes.
there is going to be a huge distortion in the economy when it comes to eve caps getting money and dust mercs getting money, where one can gain the isk and the other can turn that "low value" eve isk into "high value" dust isk.
what ccp needs to do is find a way of making it a challenge for both sides as at the moment the eve players are like "100 million isk? meh take it" |
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:31:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I have 3 million isk, some guy gave me a million isk.. thanks man wherever/whoever you are!
when you play as a tribe someone will hae to pay for that mcc. that wont be cheap.
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Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:32:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote:tbh this is what it's gonna be like when eve and dust come together. Eve has so much money compared to dust, it's prob best to do this now on a test server to find out plausible sink holes.
there is going to be a huge distortion in the economy when it comes to eve caps getting money and dust mercs getting money, where one can gain the isk and the other can turn that "low value" eve isk into "high value" dust isk.
what ccp needs to do is find a way of making it a challenge for both sides as at the moment the eve players are like "100 million isk? meh take it" ... |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:32:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:ISK should be earned, not exported from people that pay a monthly fee to CCP to make their Dust character rich.
By that logic, we have to abandon the Plexes in EVE as well. Dust and EVE will live in teh same universe. ISK and Item transfer will be integral to the function of the two. It needs testing. For now I think CCP would have done well to limit the ISK transfer to a cap per day. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:36:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I have 3 million isk, some guy gave me a million isk.. thanks man wherever/whoever you are! when you play as a tribe someone will hae to pay for that mcc. that wont be cheap.
Indeed, this is my personal wallet.. I am not funding an mcc, I am funding myself to defend the mcc.. corp wallet would be funding that, no clue what ours is... but I can bet it is alot more then my 3 mil. I have canceled my eve sub for a little bit so can't transfer anything here but , on Eve side.. I could buy ALOT of mcc hehe... and this isnt from sisi free isk, I'm talking TQ in my real wallet isk |
Blue Buggs
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
19
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:44:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I have 3 million isk, some guy gave me a million isk.. thanks man wherever/whoever you are!
It was meeeeeee, testing from my eariler thread |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:44:00 -
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So if this becomes the reality what is the reason to play after the SP cap is hit?
Most of us have been playing to get more isk. But it sounds like people will have unlimited supplies of it.
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:54:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:So if this becomes the reality what is the reason to play after the SP cap is hit?
Most of us have been playing to get more isk. But it sounds like people will have unlimited supplies of it.
Once Dust 514 becomes fully integrated into the player-driven market throughout New Eden, the price of every module, suit, tank, LAV, dropship, and weapon (assuming Eve players get to manufacture them next year) will adjust according to every player's income, supply and demand of the market, speculation, who corners the market, etc.
The disparity will close on its own as New Eden's economy is capable of finding equilibrium on its own according to Adam Smith's book titled "Wealth of Nations" that talks about the "invisible hand theory". The theory states that the self interests of the corporations or individuals in an free market economy will ensure that economy will recover on its own over time as fluctuations in the market settle down.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that Goonswarm Federation and the CFC helped demonstrate this theory perfectly in Eve Online (whose economy we'll merge with soon). |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:55:00 -
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Agreed ^. I have absolutely no motivation to beta test this game after my SP cap has been reached. I'm rich *****. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:02:00 -
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Well if availability the middle of the workday Friday is a legitimate advantage because that's how it will be go live, I see no reason for Shar Khan to be complaining about EVE isk as an illegitimate advantage. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:20:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Well if availability the middle of the workday Friday is a legitimate advantage because that's how it will be go live, I see no reason for Shar Khan to be complaining about EVE isk as an illegitimate advantage.
u spells my name wong.
lolz u really care bout this tourny dont you. Thats kinda cute tbh. Well let the isk flow and set the markets freeeeeeeeeeeee.
PS. free cuddles 4 u noc anytime you need em and here take one of my tampons |
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v3k3v
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
24
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:21:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:So if this becomes the reality what is the reason to play after the SP cap is hit?
Most of us have been playing to get more isk. But it sounds like people will have unlimited supplies of it.
Go play a different game you whiner. I play to increase my kdr and make you cry |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:22:00 -
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Blue Buggs wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I have 3 million isk, some guy gave me a million isk.. thanks man wherever/whoever you are! It was meeeeeee, testing from my eariler thread
ahhh , I recall that thread now. Thanks Blue! |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:25:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Well if availability the middle of the workday Friday is a legitimate advantage because that's how it will be go live, I see no reason for Shar Khan to be complaining about EVE isk as an illegitimate advantage. u spells my name wong. lolz u really care bout this tourny dont you. Thats kinda cute tbh. Well let the isk flow and set the markets freeeeeeeeeeeee. PS. free cuddles 4 u noc anytime you need em and here take one of my tampons
Spelling is not my strong suit. Not going to deny that. But it's tit for tat. If one thing doesn't bother you because EVE/DUST isn't fair, why does something else? |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:31:00 -
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v3k3v wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:So if this becomes the reality what is the reason to play after the SP cap is hit?
Most of us have been playing to get more isk. But it sounds like people will have unlimited supplies of it.
Go play a different game you whiner. I play to increase my kdr and make you cry
Hahahaha come get some! Well keeping working on your kdr son you'll catch up soon.
I can help your kdr. Might go the wrong way though. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:38:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Well if availability the middle of the workday Friday is a legitimate advantage because that's how it will be go live, I see no reason for Shar Khan to be complaining about EVE isk as an illegitimate advantage. u spells my name wong. lolz u really care bout this tourny dont you. Thats kinda cute tbh. Well let the isk flow and set the markets freeeeeeeeeeeee. PS. free cuddles 4 u noc anytime you need em and here take one of my tampons Spelling is not my strong suit. Not going to deny that. But it's tit for tat. If one thing doesn't bother you because EVE/DUST isn't fair, why does something else?
Hey noc was only joking bout the spelling. its fun watching you get mad and all but I really aint one to be a gramma naz i woulnt haz a arm to stand on.
Also sooooo not mad bout isk mainly because I look like this guy in eve. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:40:00 -
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I was sent a couple billion isk by an eve player.
DId I spend it all? Sure. Did it give me any real advantage? Not really. Sure, I can buy pretty much unlimited amounts of gear, but I still need the SP to make it work. Sure, i have a few hundred prototype suits, but that doesn't help me much when I can only use standards.
I think this is part of the deeper meaning behind when they removed the HP bonuses from the suits. The ISK advantage pretty much isn't one. WIth the new hit detection/strafe speed, there's not much difference suitwise/gearwise anymore. Maybe a couple bullets here/there, sure.
Tanks are easy to kill. Dropships are easily killed. Prototype suit/gear is still easy to kill. The only thing that spamming expensive stuff does, is increase the end of game rewards for the people who inevitably kill you. What does that mean? People without eve chums will make more ISK per match in the long run, making it easier for them to afford high end gear themselves, thus providing bonus isk for other people who inevitably kill them as well.
Is it an exploit? That's debatable. I'd say it's a fair bet that this probably isn't intended to have been possible, given that they have said they wanted to limit the influx of ISK at launch. However, the morality of this entirely depends on if they plan to wipe the assets again. If they do not intend wipe the assets, then I agree this is a serious problem and would happily allow them to remove anything I bought with the ISK sent from Eve. Though, if there is a wipe planned, than this serves as merely an impromptu experiment to see what happens when billions of ISK flood the dust market (Which will eventually happen anyways once they allow free transfer) |
v3k3v
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
24
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:51:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:
Hahahaha come get some! Well keeping working on your kdr son you'll catch up soon.
I can help your kdr. Might go the wrong way though.
I see your a 2.7.. im 2.5 kdr... Maybe I should teach you a few things kiddo.. you should do some research before you act all big and bad on the forum here.
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:54:00 -
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v3k3v wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:
Hahahaha come get some! Well keeping working on your kdr son you'll catch up soon.
I can help your kdr. Might go the wrong way though.
I see your a 2.7.. im 2.5 kdr... Maybe I should teach you a few things kiddo.. you should do some research before you act all big and bad on the forum here.
You know 2.7 is better than 2.5, or have you not taken kindergarten yet? I lol at the idea of you thinking you can beat Howdidthattaste in a one on one. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:29:00 -
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a 2.7 inch willy is still a 2.7 inch willy |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:47:00 -
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The sisi isk is there for testing to simulate what will happen on tq given time. I flew cheap suicide ships that caused me 40+million in EvE and I keep getting a hard time for not using decent gear. My EvE characters are poor by EvE standards, and I could come up with a billion isk selling some unused mods I haven't bothered to haul to trade hubs yet.
What affect this has on economy should be tested in beta, would have been better timing after tournament though.
The gear only found in salvage drops will be bid up to eve type pricing, so a single kin's ar may be worth a couple fully fit Sagaris. Wars over territory, grinding standings and gaining lp for loyalty point store will provide meaning on launch after hitting sp cap.
The isk will only be given to people's friends, alts and corps/players that fight for their interests, so somebody that stops playing after hitting cap is less likely to be given isk. |
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.20 20:46:00 -
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As long as there's no tank/dropship spam in the tourny or pubs then I don't mind people getting that much isk. |
v3k3v
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
24
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Posted - 2012.10.20 20:50:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote: You know 2.7 is better than 2.5, or have you not taken kindergarten yet? I lol at the idea of you thinking you can beat Howdidthattaste in a one on one.
Hey genius when did they teach decimal points in kindergarten?
Im just saying hes talking himself up and hes just as good as me lol He thought he was all bada55 and didnt think to look into it. He has like 3700 kills and only 2.7 i have 2700 kills and 2.5 you really think my next 1000 kills will lower my kdr.. ill be a 2.9+ by the time i get to as many kills as he has. Its just a simple statistics go 10/2 often now so so 200 death per 1000 kills 2700-1080now 3700-1280 =2.9 just like eve its all about the math man haha
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.20 20:54:00 -
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v3k3v wrote:Logi Bro wrote: You know 2.7 is better than 2.5, or have you not taken kindergarten yet? I lol at the idea of you thinking you can beat Howdidthattaste in a one on one.
Hey genius when did they teach decimal points in kindergarten? Im just saying hes talking himself up and hes just as good as me lol He thought he was all bada55 and didnt think to look into it. He has like 3700 kills and only 2.7 i have 2700 kills and 2.5 you really think my next 1000 kills will lower my kdr.. ill be a 2.9+ by the time i get to as many kills as he has. Its just a simple statistics go 10/2 often now so so 200 death per 1000 kills 2700-1080now 3700-1280 =2.9 just like eve its all about the math man haha
Your math makes absolutely no sense. I don't even have anything else to say. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
540
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Posted - 2012.10.20 23:28:00 -
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Please see my post about ISK transfer here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=367671#post367671
Locking this thread since we don't need 2 on the same subject. |
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