DUST Search - Dropships in TDM??? (A Ydubbs vent)

Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay.

this is why you carry a Forge gun, problem solved and alot of isk lost for the pilot.

At this point, forge guns are the only way to kill a dropship. It's just that I, personally, have to put points in corporation management and infantry and grenades (for ground vehicles) at 4x skill level and to now spec into a forge gun is going to sidetrack me. As you know, sp's are in short supply this build.

I'm just venting because TDM should really be infantry only. Or, if they're going to allow vehicles, then ground vehicles only and not aerial vehicles. I mean, even if they make the swarm launcher more effective, dropships and aerial vehicles in a TDM mode is just silly.

Personally, id rather skill up for Forge then grenades being that grenades are not reliable for getting the job done and forge works on all 3 vehicles AND infantry :D

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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:17:00 - [1] - Quote For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:18:00 - [2] - Quote TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:22:00 - [3] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:32:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. socom elimination was actually pretty damn good
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:34:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. TDM is enjoyable in every shooter but DUST. If TDM wasn't enjoyable it wouldn't be included included in any FPS.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.20 03:36:00 - [6] - Quote Ambush would be more enjoyable with more supply depots, some CRUs, etc. Take note CCP.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2012.10.20 04:16:00 - [7] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Ambush would be more enjoyable with more supply depots, some CRUs, etc. Take note CCP. not necessarily even more, but RANDOM. Meaning, random object in those slots you have on the field. And random slot places if possible.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.20 04:17:00 - [8] - Quote Ah how cute you guys look like ants from the point of my dropship. Oh and not the pilot gets the kills its the gunners.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.20 04:59:00 - [9] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. socom elimination was actually pretty damn good Damn I miss Socom that Socom 4 that came out was a dirty lie!
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.20 05:01:00 - [10] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. socom elimination was actually pretty damn good Damn I miss Socom that Socom 4 that came out was a dirty lie! now were stuck with diarrhea514 The good ole days when you never even had to level up, just pure skill.

ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 391	Posted - 2012.10.20 05:58:00 - [11] - Quote loving the noobs coming in complaining about stuff we were complaining about months and months ago. Good luck getting anywhere, what with the fanboys, idiots, and ccp not seeming to give a toss. This beta has gotten worse with each new build, I can't be bothered any more, eight months is long enough to put up with this BS joke.
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.10.20 07:07:00 - [12] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Ambush would be more enjoyable with more supply depots, some CRUs, etc. Take note CCP. This.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.10.20 07:36:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah bro, how else do up and coming pilots try their hand at dodging swarms and forge guns from EVERYWHERE. but statpad arguement is just qq. but as posted, it's a vent thread
Stephiano Daphiti Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 16	Posted - 2012.10.20 07:51:00 - [14] - Quote lol wrong thread
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.20 08:13:00 - [15] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. lolderpships i feel u Ydubbs, swarm launcher trackin in general is ****** vs tanks and derpships tracks too well vs tanks, doesnt track well vs derpships
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.20 08:15:00 - [16] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. TDM is enjoyable in every shooter but DUST. If TDM wasn't enjoyable it wouldn't be included included in any FPS. i'll disagree. TDM is only ever enjoyable in high health games for me like Resistance and Halo Maps too big for DUST tdm and spawns still bad + lolderpships TDM really should be infantry only on smaller maps tbh Nova made a good post on how Ambush could be changed but i cba to find it tbh
Riot Ruckus Doomheim 56	Posted - 2012.10.20 08:36:00 - [17] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. " Your heaviest artillery will be your will to live. Keep that big gun going." - Norman Cousins You need a bigger gun, drop ships are not unkillable, you are just not specced to kill them so do what you do, point and shoot. Kame-Hame-HA -Riot.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.20 08:45:00 - [18] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. socom elimination was actually pretty damn good Damn I miss Socom that Socom 4 that came out was a dirty lie! now were stuck with diarrhea514 The good ole days when you never even had to level up, just pure skill. I can only hope we get a good Socom game. Hell Confrontation is looking good right now tbh.
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.20 09:20:00 - [19] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. You mean player counts too low and maps too big for all modes
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.20 09:44:00 - [20] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. You mean player counts too low and maps too big for all modes This^

G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2012.10.20 09:46:00 - [21] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. TDM is enjoyable in every shooter but DUST. If TDM wasn't enjoyable it wouldn't be included included in any FPS. Reality TV is enjoyable - if Reality TV isn't enjoyable, it wouldn't be on every TV channel.
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.10.20 11:49:00 - [22] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. this is why you carry a Forge gun, problem solved and alot of isk lost for the pilot.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:26:00 - [23] - Quote Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. this is why you carry a Forge gun, problem solved and alot of isk lost for the pilot. At this point, forge guns are the only way to kill a dropship. It's just that I, personally, have to put points in corporation management and infantry and grenades (for ground vehicles) at 4x skill level and to now spec into a forge gun is going to sidetrack me. As you know, sp's are in short supply this build. I'm just venting because TDM should really be infantry only. Or, if they're going to allow vehicles, then ground vehicles only and not aerial vehicles. I mean, even if they make the swarm launcher more effective, dropships and aerial vehicles in a TDM mode is just silly.
Governor Odius Doomheim 177	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:31:00 - [24] - Quote You have to bear in mind that for some of us, piloting is all we do. Put my dropsuit on the ground and I don't have enough SP in my gear to kill a stationary scout suit in a reasonable amount of time. I fly in Ambush matches because they usually have less latency. This isn't some stat-padding try hardedness, if it was I'd go a route that actually allows you to earn WP and kills, it's just me playing the way I most enjoy. Eventually they'll fix dropships, hopefully not the way they fixed HAVs, and all will be well again.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:40:00 - [25] - Quote Governor Odius wrote: You have to bear in mind that for some of us, piloting is all we do. Put my dropsuit on the ground and I don't have enough SP in my gear to kill a stationary scout suit in a reasonable amount of time. I fly in Ambush matches because they usually have less latency. This isn't some stat-padding try hardedness, if it was I'd go a route that actually allows you to earn WP and kills, it's just me playing the way I most enjoy. Eventually they'll fix dropships, hopefully not the way they fixed HAVs, and all will be well again. It's a general vent post. My stat-pad post was directed at those that ARE really just trying to climb the leaderboards and convince everyone that they are better shooters than they are. They'll start out on the ground and once they realize they're not going to get that 5 or 6 KDR because of their opponent, they then jump in the air. I'm not saying that dropships shouldn't be allowed in the game, I'm just saying that it's not a good fit for a team deathmatch mode. And really....you can't take them out unless you specced out in forge guns. If you're on that 3-letter map..you are not safe from dropships. They wipe out all 16 players on the field. Not to mention, there is no cooldown for those weapons. You can just fire away with no cooldown and no worry about defense.
Governor Odius Doomheim 177	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:44:00 - [26] - Quote There's no denying that dropships aren't functioning as intended right now, but there are a lot of things we don't see yet in the game that will change the metagame dramatically. We don't have electronic warfare, propulsion jamming, or vehicle capacitors. It wouldn't surprise me if eventually we'll end up in a position where a dropship that fires continuously like that will run out of capacitor in a few seconds and crash, who knows?
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.10.20 13:15:00 - [27] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. this is why you carry a Forge gun, problem solved and alot of isk lost for the pilot. At this point, forge guns are the only way to kill a dropship. It's just that I, personally, have to put points in corporation management and infantry and grenades (for ground vehicles) at 4x skill level and to now spec into a forge gun is going to sidetrack me. As you know, sp's are in short supply this build. I'm just venting because TDM should really be infantry only. Or, if they're going to allow vehicles, then ground vehicles only and not aerial vehicles. I mean, even if they make the swarm launcher more effective, dropships and aerial vehicles in a TDM mode is just silly. Personally, id rather skill up for Forge then grenades being that grenades are not reliable for getting the job done and forge works on all 3 vehicles AND infantry :D
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.20 13:49:00 - [28] - Quote Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: For real? I haven't played all shooters but this is the only shooter that I've played that will allow tryhards to stat pad in TDM with dropships that you can't even defend against because the swarm launchers are gay. this is why you carry a Forge gun, problem solved and alot of isk lost for the pilot. At this point, forge guns are the only way to kill a dropship. It's just that I, personally, have to put points in corporation management and infantry and grenades (for ground vehicles) at 4x skill level and to now spec into a forge gun is going to sidetrack me. As you know, sp's are in short supply this build. I'm just venting because TDM should really be infantry only. Or, if they're going to allow vehicles, then ground vehicles only and not aerial vehicles. I mean, even if they make the swarm launcher more effective, dropships and aerial vehicles in a TDM mode is just silly. Personally, id rather skill up for Forge then grenades being that grenades are not reliable for getting the job done and forge works on all 3 vehicles AND infantry :D Right, it looks like I may be forced into that direction. It's just that, I'm mostly AR....and I run into lavs trying to run me over more than anything. So, while I'm using my AR, I don't have to run and find a supply depot to change to a forge gun dropsuit or get ran over first. I can just chuck my AVs at the lav and be on my merry way.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.20 13:56:00 - [29] - Quote G Torq wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: TDM isn't enjoyable in this game. The maps are too big. TDM isn't enjoyable in any game. If there's no objective but killing people, it just gets boring. TDM is enjoyable in every shooter but DUST. If TDM wasn't enjoyable it wouldn't be included included in any FPS. Reality TV is enjoyable - if Reality TV isn't enjoyable, it wouldn't be on every TV channel. Reality TV is only enjoyable to the mindless masses that just want to watch something without having to actually turn their brain on. The reason why reality tv is on every channel is because it's the cheapest form of entertainment to produce and the risk/reward ratio is low risk on losing money,but high reward on gaining money.Simple as that. Now as for Dust... TDM isn't fun in this BETA,because it's TDM!
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.20 14:03:00 - [30] - Quote dropships should be just that. ship that drop players. putting on an overpowered turret in a beta where the counters are not all in place is just taking the ****. drop ship on maps of this size anyway? all the maps in dust are minute.



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