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WHz DS9899
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:39:00 -
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Now I know what your thinking: "o god here we go again. another kid complaining because (insert gun) isn't the best, so he's calling OP on my favorite guns, so this is invalid." Well, then your wrong, because AR's are one of my favorite guns in this game too, and I'm saying their OP. Really,the only fix it needs is to have recoil added, because Iliterly don't have to do recoil mangement at all, and the only gun that should happen with is the laser rifle IMO. That's really the only fix AR's need. otherwise their prefect. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:42:00 -
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Normally, I don't agree with what you're saying. It's nothing against you as a person, just I don't think they're good ideas
HOWEVER
I do agree that recoil should factor a lot more into the AR's. It would make rifles like the breach AR's more useful than they are now. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:55:00 -
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are you inferring that the AR's are a bit to accurate? |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
334
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:56:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:Now I know what your thinking: "o god here we go again. another kid complaining because (insert gun) isn't the best, so he's calling OP on my favorite guns, so this is invalid." Well, then your wrong, because AR's are one of my favorite guns in this game too, and I'm saying their OP. Really,the only fix it needs is to have recoil added, because Iliterly don't have to do recoil mangement at all, and the only gun that should happen with is the laser rifle IMO. That's really the only fix AR's need. otherwise their prefect.
Wow, I can't believe you. blah blah blah troll/flame/etc.
Now that I got that out of my system, I agree with you absolutely.
It seems to me that in the early builds, during the CreoDron Dynasty, the breach was amazing not only because of the damage, but also because of the recoil reduction. So they nerfed the damage, and they also dramatically took down the recoil on the assault rifles.
The reason I couldn't use the basic assault rifle in the early builds was because of recoil, and also they way they drain through the ammo. They had too much recoil for me, and it made it a lot more difficult for me to hit my target repeatedly like I could with the creodron. but now, if they brought back the recoil for the Assault, and also drop the headshot damage multiplier all AR's do by like.. 10%.. Or just reduce the base damage assault class AR's do by 10%. I think if they did only those things, and left the other AR types alone*, we would have a balance, not only between AR's and other weapons, but also between breach, assault, and the other rifle types. The basic AR would no longer reign supreme over the breach.
*Alternately, they could make the breach fire a TINY bit faster, but thats optional, and maybe only do it for the advanced/prototype)
anyway.. yeah. As it stands, AR's are just a tad too powerful for my liking. You can drop even a good heavy in under a second with most assault rifles if you aim properly. that is absolutely ridiculous. Don't get me wrong. I use the AR almost exclusively, but so does everyone else. Y'know why? because it is easily the best weapon on the battlefield vs. Dropsuits be it at range or up close. The only weapon better for up close is the shotgun.
I know most will argue that the AR is supposed to be the jack of all trades, but the problem here is, it's the master of all trades right now. take down the damage/increase recoil and it will make it the jack of all trades, but if you want to master, you'll have to spec into shotguns, HMG's, or sniper rifles. AR's are always going to be a common sight on the battlefield, due to their inherently "familiar" quality (every FPS worth it's salt has some form of Assault Rifle). That said, it doesn't have to also be a quick-drop weapon like it is. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:34:00 -
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stop asking CCP to dumb the game down
Standard AR's need a recoil buff
Breach AR's need 42 bullets per clip and an increase in RoF. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:43:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:stop asking CCP to dumb the game down
Standard AR's need a recoil buff
Breach AR's need 42 bullets per clip and an increase in RoF.
Ummm no on the ROF. And the larger clip. Look at it this way, Breach AR's do more damage, because they use a larger blaster charge than the regular AR does. Same reason the breach shotgun has less ammo than the regulars.
I agree with the OP though. AR's need to have spread added. As it is, they half almost no spread, especially when scoped in, and the AR skill itself reduces spread farther. Since AR's have close to no spread as it is, it almost makes the bonus pointless. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:19:00 -
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Conraire wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:stop asking CCP to dumb the game down
Standard AR's need a recoil buff
Breach AR's need 42 bullets per clip and an increase in RoF. Ummm no on the ROF. And the larger clip. Look at it this way, Breach AR's do more damage, because they use a larger blaster charge than the regular AR does. Same reason the breach shotgun has less ammo than the regulars. I agree with the OP though. AR's need to have spread added. As it is, they half almost no spread, especially when scoped in, and the AR skill itself reduces spread farther. Since AR's have close to no spread as it is, it almost makes the bonus pointless.
Breach AR has lower DPS, and lower damage per magazine, yet somehow its more expensive. There is no advantage to using the breach AR. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:35:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Breach AR has lower DPS, and lower damage per magazine, yet somehow its more expensive. There is no advantage to using the breach AR.
I personally think they need to raise the actual damage per shot. Made a suggestion thread a while back bout differentiating the AR's. Then the reduced recoil and higher shot dmg would make up for the slower ROF. Thats of course if they add proper recoil to the 2 high speed ARs. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:25:00 -
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o god here we go again. another kid complaining because (insert gun) isn't the best, so he's calling OP on my favorite guns, so this is invalid. |
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