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zees cam Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.10.18 16:45:00 - [1] - Quote I am fairly good with competitive FPS games. But in this game I see myself getting owned a lot in head on 1 v 1 fights. I was just wondering why? I am using a controller do majority of players here are using mouse and keyboard?
Obama DAT Doomheim 389	Posted - 2012.10.18 16:50:00 - [2] - Quote It's all gear based my friend (unless you're an elite FPS'er). I'm a above average FPS'er but struggled to keep even a 1.5 KDR with militia gear. With better gear comes better survivability and with that more killing and more enjoyment (if killing is what brings you joy as it does me). Try boosting your shields and your weapon of choice to enhance your experience.
pbr me 843 Boot Camp 5	Posted - 2012.10.18 16:52:00 - [3] - Quote It's all who has the better fit, better guns and better mods. Skill has gone out the window and is all based on your stats. So, shield and armor up and buy the l33t weapons.
Grizzly Ant Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2012.10.18 16:55:00 - [4] - Quote i was the same at first, keep playing and you'll get used to the games mechanics. boost your weapon skills too and you'll be fine!
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:03:00 - [5] - Quote Gear isn't even important. It's the passive SP bonuses. For example type 2 assault suit. Shield management, upgrades and operation ect ect makes it amazingly good. Then there's PG/CPU increases... Weaponry... Sharpshooter is vital... If you are just starting out, I believe you are supposed to "htfu". Basically, grind to win game.
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:05:00 - [6] - Quote zees cam wrote: I am fairly good with competitive FPS games. But in this game I see myself getting owned a lot in head on 1 v 1 fights. I was just wondering why? I am using a controller do majority of players here are using mouse and keyboard? what your running and what THEIR running maybe on another lvl, if you aim at them and you see STD, ADV, PRO on the character stats their gear maybe better than yours and they may actually have more skills invested in areas to put you down.
zees cam Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:09:00 - [7] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: zees cam wrote: I am fairly good with competitive FPS games. But in this game I see myself getting owned a lot in head on 1 v 1 fights. I was just wondering why? I am using a controller do majority of players here are using mouse and keyboard? what your running and what THEIR running maybe on another lvl, if you aim at them and you see STD, ADV, PRO on the character stats their gear maybe better than yours and they may actually have more skills invested in areas to put you down. Problem is I can't see what gear my killer is running. Or can I? At-least that will tell me what to improve. Also is there any voice/squad comms in this game. I never seem to hear anyone who I can communicate with.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1902	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:36:00 - [8] - Quote It's interesting because the better you are, the more ISK you make; the more ISK you make, the better gear you can field: the better gear you can field, the harder you become to kill; the harder you become to kill, the more kills you can get; the more kills you get, the more ISK you get; etc etc etc.
RND Avc6700 Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 12	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:36:00 - [9] - Quote In the top right it says what weapon he killed you with. That doesn't really matter tho just skill up based on your play style and you will start enjoying the game alot more. You should be spending a decent amount of time in the skill menu getting comfortable with the MMO skill based system. Ask your corp members if you don't have one join one. Check out Rnd it would be our pleasure you show the Ropes. just apply at the website and we'll send a invite.
Grizzly Ant Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:38:00 - [10] - Quote zees cam wrote: Also is there any voice/squad comms in this game. I never seem to hear anyone who I can communicate with. yes it's in the options menu, you have to turn it on!!

Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.18 17:41:00 - [11] - Quote zees cam wrote: head on 1 v 1 fights. There is your problem! Solution: Roll with a group!
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.18 18:23:00 - [12] - Quote Who wins and who loses isn't skill or gear based, for the most part. But your playstyle is completely gear and skill based. You really have to adjust how you play depending on your gear. But this game is a lot like EVE in that there's sort of a plateau with the skills and equipment. There's a certain minimum level that if you are below you tend to get owned regularly, but once you get the basic skills and equipment it becomes much more even and the advantage that high SP and better gear has tends to decrease.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:02:00 - [13] - Quote It's not gear based. The passive skills make a big difference. Gear makes a pretty noticeable but little smaller difference. There is some out of combat skill in choosing fittings, people good at this will be able to do more with fewer skills and lesser gear. They can also help others with their fits. "gun skills" still allow a new char played by a good fps player to take down a 30million sp full proto guy that can't aim, unlike say Borderlands were new character head shots would cause no damage and high level ar misses can insta-kill with splash damage. Good pve game with horrible pvp balance. Good team work and tactics can trump all of the above to some degree, perfect plan could fail from nobody could hit enemy of course.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:07:00 - [14] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Who wins and who loses isn't skill or gear based, for the most part. But your playstyle is completely gear and skill based. You really have to adjust how you play depending on your gear. But this game is a lot like EVE in that there's sort of a plateau with the skills and equipment. There's a certain minimum level that if you are below you tend to get owned regularly, but once you get the basic skills and equipment it becomes much more even and the advantage that high SP and better gear has tends to decrease. I strongly agree with Altina. Skill is more important than passive bonuses or gear, though the gear & bonuses themselved can help cover for small differences in skill level between players. There are always tactical choices to make, from how to use cover and concealment, to which players to squad up with, and what weapons and equipment to field in a match. A "hold the line" playstyle is much more compatible with a heavy than an assault; a "team blitzkrieg" playstyle is more compatible with an assault suit; a "specialty support" playstyle is more compatible with a logistics suit; and a "stealth recon" playstyle is more compatible with a scout. Unless you're fielding a logistics unit, you can fit a nova knife, smg, or pistol as a backup weapon and unless you're a heavy you can fit at least one piece of equipment...so there are a lot of strategic ways to counter opposition. Head on is rarely one of them unless you've got squad members helping flank the target or you know you've got the advantage...but that doesn't make it less fun.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1902	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:10:00 - [15] - Quote Gear absolutely makes a difference. All I run is militia 80-90% of the time, the 10-20% where I can afford to have a little fun, I tend to clear house. That few extra points of shield, armor and damage make a very noticeable difference, just as the ease of fitting for AUR users makes a noticeable difference.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:16:00 - [16] - Quote The TACNET doesn't tell you what modules the enemy has fitted, but it will tell you the type of dropsuit, shield HP, and armor HP. It's also not just gear that is a factor. The lifetime SP that a player has is also a factor. The enemy might have invested skills in boosting the effectiveness of their weapon. Experience is also a factor as many players here have learned to aim down their sights before they shoot.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:20:00 - [17] - Quote zees cam wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: zees cam wrote: I am fairly good with competitive FPS games. But in this game I see myself getting owned a lot in head on 1 v 1 fights. I was just wondering why? I am using a controller do majority of players here are using mouse and keyboard? what your running and what THEIR running maybe on another lvl, if you aim at them and you see STD, ADV, PRO on the character stats their gear maybe better than yours and they may actually have more skills invested in areas to put you down. Problem is I can't see what gear my killer is running. Or can I? At-least that will tell me what to improve. Also is there any voice/squad comms in this game. I never seem to hear anyone who I can communicate with. The VERY large majority of mic users create their squads prior to joining battles and stick to either squad channel or their private/corp channels. You almost HAVE to run in a pre made squad to do well or have much fun in this game, so start looking for squads in local or fish for a corp.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2012.10.18 19:55:00 - [18] - Quote Well actually you do not HAVE to run in a squad to do well. Obviously it helps but due to the current build we are in this is a game where you would do better being cautious especially with low skills in SP. I am still running militia builds and I can go 22-4 pretty easily because of the skills I have upgraded. Look to upgrade the Weapons skill, Mechanics skill and Shield skills. Mechanic and Shield give you increased survivability as they increase your hitpoints/or regeneration. Weapons skill increases the dmg your gun does. Also if you can get the drop and kill people who are running in better gear than you then you will get alot more ISK. The beginning of this game is less about KDR and more about your ability to gain alot of ISK with very little ISK investment on your part. As you gain more ISK you can use your SP to unlock the better suits and modules/weapons that make you better on the field. If you die 5 times from a guy in great gear but you kill him once you have probably "won". By that I mean they got almost no reward for killing you 5 times (other than stats) but you got alot of reward (in ISK) for killing him once. Also run around with AV nades and destroy every enemy vehicles you see. This gets you alot of ISK.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 109	Posted - 2012.10.18 21:30:00 - [19] - Quote quit running around so much and hold an objective. if it's yours, the enemy will show up. if it's blue to you, it's red to them. quit bunny hopping quit attacking an objective by yourself. if you are the only blue dot in the area, you are about to be dead. if you can't pay attention to the mini map then you deserve to be dead. if u think you are going to roll solo and win, you deserve to be dead and bankrupt. quit playing solo. quit playing without a mic. know the range of your weapon. if you're out of range don't fire. don't fire to test your range. that's stupid. quit trying to bob and weave when someone is headshottting you. again... stop bunnyhopping. 99% of the morons out there think that jumping up into the air at the first sign of fire is effective. all it is effective at is proving you're a casual gamer who gets scared easily. quit trying to hip fire and take a knee and learn to keep your focus. find a better weapon. stop firing the entire magazine at once. Peace B
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.18 21:36:00 - [20] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: quit running around so much and hold an objective. if it's yours, the enemy will show up. if it's blue to you, it's red to them. quit bunny hopping quit attacking an objective by yourself. if you are the only blue dot in the area, you are about to be dead. if you can't pay attention to the mini map then you deserve to be dead. if u think you are going to roll solo and win, you deserve to be dead and bankrupt. quit playing solo. quit playing without a mic. know the range of your weapon. if you're out of range don't fire. don't fire to test your range. that's stupid. quit trying to bob and weave when someone is headshottting you. again... stop bunnyhopping. 99% of the morons out there think that jumping up into the air at the first sign of fire is effective. all it is effective at is proving you're a casual gamer who gets scared easily. quit trying to hip fire and take a knee and learn to keep your focus. find a better weapon. stop firing the entire magazine at once. Peace B what this guy said.

lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.10.18 21:50:00 - [21] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: quit running around so much and hold an objective. if it's yours, the enemy will show up. if it's blue to you, it's red to them. quit bunny hopping quit attacking an objective by yourself. if you are the only blue dot in the area, you are about to be dead. if you can't pay attention to the mini map then you deserve to be dead. if u think you are going to roll solo and win, you deserve to be dead and bankrupt. quit playing solo. quit playing without a mic. know the range of your weapon. if you're out of range don't fire. don't fire to test your range. that's stupid. quit trying to bob and weave when someone is headshottting you. again... stop bunnyhopping. 99% of the morons out there think that jumping up into the air at the first sign of fire is effective. all it is effective at is proving you're a casual gamer who gets scared easily. quit trying to hip fire and take a knee and learn to keep your focus. find a better weapon. stop firing the entire magazine at once Peace B Amen
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.18 21:54:00 - [22] - Quote Tyrus Four wrote: BASSMEANT wrote: quit running around so much and hold an objective. if it's yours, the enemy will show up. if it's blue to you, it's red to them. quit bunny hopping quit attacking an objective by yourself. if you are the only blue dot in the area, you are about to be dead. if you can't pay attention to the mini map then you deserve to be dead. if u think you are going to roll solo and win, you deserve to be dead and bankrupt. quit playing solo. quit playing without a mic. know the range of your weapon. if you're out of range don't fire. don't fire to test your range. that's stupid. quit trying to bob and weave when someone is headshottting you. again... stop bunnyhopping. 99% of the morons out there think that jumping up into the air at the first sign of fire is effective. all it is effective at is proving you're a casual gamer who gets scared easily. quit trying to hip fire and take a knee and learn to keep your focus. find a better weapon. stop firing the entire magazine at once. Peace B what this guy said. **** him hes a noob. how are the polar bears?
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.10.18 22:15:00 - [23] - Quote pbr me wrote: It's all who has the better fit, better guns and better mods. Skill has gone out the window and is all based on your stats. So, shield and armor up and buy the l33t weapons. So basically it's an Fps version of wow
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.10.18 22:26:00 - [24] - Quote fenrir storm wrote: pbr me wrote: It's all who has the better fit, better guns and better mods. Skill has gone out the window and is all based on your stats. So, shield and armor up and buy the l33t weapons. So basically it's an Fps version of wow Like I say: If you have Prototype you are God, no exceptions.
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.10.18 22:34:00 - [25] - Quote Xavier Hastings wrote: fenrir storm wrote: pbr me wrote: It's all who has the better fit, better guns and better mods. Skill has gone out the window and is all based on your stats. So, shield and armor up and buy the l33t weapons. So basically it's an Fps version of wow Like I say: If you have Prototype you are God, no exceptions. Not necessarily. I have a friend playing in basically Militia gear (I think he runs with a non-militia rifle, but nothing too wild) and he does pretty well against some of the more well known players. Just get into a rhythm and you'll fair well enough.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.18 23:12:00 - [26] - Quote The Polish Hammer wrote: Xavier Hastings wrote: fenrir storm wrote: pbr me wrote: It's all who has the better fit, better guns and better mods. Skill has gone out the window and is all based on your stats. So, shield and armor up and buy the l33t weapons. So basically it's an Fps version of wow Like I say: If you have Prototype you are God, no exceptions. Not necessarily. I have a friend playing in basically Militia gear (I think he runs with a non-militia rifle, but nothing too wild) and he does pretty well against some of the more well known players. Just get into a rhythm and you'll fair well enough. did they ******* fix the mouse yet? hang on while i boot dust. if they didnt ah well. ccp always suckeds you had plenty of time.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.18 23:24:00 - [27] - Quote i just quit a game. i cant explain more. its not as bad as it gets. but its bad. ,aybe these console jockeys will be happy. i just reead your forums and it's all your fault. read. maybe you do suck. you did a ******* good job though didnt you>?
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.10.18 23:39:00 - [28] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: i just quit a game. i cant explain more. its not as bad as it gets. but its bad. ,aybe these console jockeys will be happy. i just reead your forums and it's all your fault. read. maybe you do suck. you did a ******* good job though didnt you>? Tbh mate I think It's the game , you either like it or you don't. I don't, well this build any way or maybe I've been testing it to long, just got no enthusiasm for this build it's like all the fun been sucked out of the game.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.18 23:51:00 - [29] - Quote Also, I'm not sure if the OP knows what the final version of DUST is going to look like. Most of this game is going to be player corporations fulfilling contracts issued by players in EVE to defend protect their holdings in a given system and is going to be supremely focused on teamwork and the ability for your crew to win matches. There are player's in scout suits that can take out my heavy 1 v 1 sometimes, catching me in a bad location or right after another firefight or whatever. A lot of that is skill, but a lot of it is also shield skills and modules and high power AR's. But when my squad engaged the same player allowing me to move around to the side and they turned a corner trying to run. There I was waiting for them and they died in about half a second. If they had been wearing proto gear it might have taken three quarters of a second. Teamwork beats gear 100% of the time. I'm not saying there's no more balance issues, but if you're wanting every 1 v 1 to be equal I don't think this is going to be a game for you. Not saying the OP wants that, just saying in general.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.10.19 00:43:00 - [30] - Quote Gears matters in this game. If you have a militia shield, you can be beaten by militia guns. If you have an advance shield, then it's not easy to die easily. Especially if you have Shield management to level 5. You'll notice you die less. That's why you need to carry flux grenades to take out the shields, because for most part they don't have enough armor. The more armor they have, the slower they are.



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