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aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:25:00 -
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i wasn't planning on making this thread but i had to i just really had to.
After playing a few rounds i died a lot times and i realized i was killed by Aurum weapons. a lot of Aurum weapons .......
My feedback is that someone who brought Aurum should not get the advantage a free player who depends on ISK would get within 2 weeks.Because if this is the case than the game would slowly become P2P.
Before anyone rage about what i said i want to make clear that it is the weapons that are OP not the players holding them.
so yes CCP i hope you will look into what i said. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:34:00 -
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Remeber... games F2P are still for making money.
Without cash support this fine game dont have chance to stay and bloom.
So... dont look at this as bad as is it.
Cheer up. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:45:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Remeber... games F2P are still for making money.
Without cash support this fine game dont have chance to stay and bloom.
So... dont look at this as bad as is it.
Cheer up.
it isn't bad....
it's getting bad..... that's the worst part. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:51:00 -
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I have no problem with Aurum weapons and such. My problem is p2w boosters which have given them an extra 50% more sp than me each weakly reset. Nearly 1mil EXTRA SP, such BS... |
Patches The Hyena
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:00:00 -
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I dunno dude my booster feels like more of a rip off everyday. It's usually netting me a small handful of SP and doesn't seem to push the cap up at all, just gets you to the terribly depressing 800 SP matches much sooner. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:18:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:I have no problem with Aurum weapons and such. My problem is p2w boosters which have given them an extra 50% more sp than me each weakly reset. Nearly 1mil EXTRA SP, such BS...
I use those boosters and i agree there's a problem there regarding getting +50% on the active SP cap.
But, as the design isnt final yet, i'd say wait and see.
But it's probably the biggest pay-to-win deal there's been in the game yet. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:24:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:I dunno dude my booster feels like more of a rip off everyday. It's usually netting me a small handful of SP and doesn't seem to push the cap up at all, just gets you to the terribly depressing 800 SP matches much sooner.
What about 5-10?  Some of guys here get 1 sp at max cap.
So still long way for you.
Point is that you look at SP like 'Only One Sun' here.
It is easy to make this 'sin'. In Eve is the same thing .... if you look only at your SP you loose fast everything that game can gives you.
I repeat this - it is SIN :)
Look at SP like this is only bonus for this game... and all will be brighten in this dark place.
Stay and play, make wise choices and your fun will back soon. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:33:00 -
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Please keep rage from happening in this thread. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.10.18 13:27:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:I dunno dude my booster feels like more of a rip off everyday. It's usually netting me a small handful of SP and doesn't seem to push the cap up at all, just gets you to the terribly depressing 800 SP matches much sooner.
True story. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:23:00 -
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ConSidering that the aurum weapons and drop suits will soon be sellable in the player market for ISK, that alone will undermine the argument of a possible pay to win scenario. Plex in Eve was thought to be pay to win at one point but market economics said otherwise. |
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:47:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:i wasn't planning on making this thread but i had to i just really had to. After playing a few rounds i died a lot times and i realized i was killed by Aurum weapons. a lot of Aurum weapons ....... My feedback is that someone who brought Aurum should not get the advantage a free player who depends on ISK would get within 2 weeks.Because if this is the case than the game would slowly become P2P. Before anyone rage about what i said i want to make clear that it is the weapons that are OP not the players holding them. so yes CCP i hope you will look into what i said.
A bit yes, but it's you own skill at FPS that counts in the main. A good team with good communication is lethal. If you're half decent it'll take a lot less than two weeks to get the ISK equivalent. The closer to the top tiers the smaller the gap for players with similar play time and skills. I'm still running around with all Militia on my Raven suit and I'm doing fairly well for myself. It's rare where I'll break out the expensive gear. Fair enough the Ravan and Militia BPOs give me a 10490 ISK advantage per suit but that's not a game breaker. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:10:00 -
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I used to agree with this point, but now I'm pretty sure this game is simply play 2 win or pay 2 win early.
What I find amazingly so confusing about this design is that CCP feel it's neccessary to hold them back with poor returns. More importantly why would people pay to win earlier if they're not winning anything other than a ego trip?
So to get better, players play more and pay to get more earlier, then CCP kicks them in the balls and removes their right to progress.
All that's left then is KDR epeen measuring and ISK farming. I'm fairly sure that's not the purpose of this game and if it is, then there's many more MLG type games that are fair better out there.
As others have mentioned, once we are able to sell these items on the market for isk. The issue vanishes. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:21:00 -
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The market fully implemented will change a lot of things. Much as some people don't like to hear, it is a beta and everything is under test so some things don't make sense to us because we don't have a full idea of the concept that was being tested. I play the game for fun so all the booster does is get me to the cap faster, I've had to crawl but I haven't hit it yet. It's all down to the fun of running with a crowd that you enjoy the company of. Leave all those folks shining their KDR poles off to their own. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
15
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:22:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Patches The Hyena wrote:I dunno dude my booster feels like more of a rip off everyday. It's usually netting me a small handful of SP and doesn't seem to push the cap up at all, just gets you to the terribly depressing 800 SP matches much sooner. What about 5-10? Some of guys here get 1 sp at max cap. So still long way for you. Point is that you look at SP like 'Only One Sun' here. It is easy to make this 'sin'. In Eve is the same thing .... if you look only at your SP you loose fast everything that game can gives you. I repeat this - it is SIN :) Look at SP like this is only bonus for this game... and all will be brighten in this dark place. Stay and play, make wise choices and your fun will back soon.
Thank you |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:ConSidering that the aurum weapons and drop suits will soon be sellable in the player market for ISK, that alone will undermine the argument of a possible pay to win scenario. Plex in Eve was thought to be pay to win at one point but market economics said otherwise.
Ah crap....... |
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