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Vektus Alvoraan Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2012.10.17 00:42:00 - [1] - Quote Sniping right now is so perfect, everybody is taking advantage of it, which is getting extremely annoying. Especially when you wanna try to srategise with your team, when all they do is snipe! Please look into this.
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.10.17 00:48:00 - [2] - Quote You can't necessarily do anything about this. CCP can't deploy a hotfix to stop that many people from sniping. It's nothing against you, it's just something that's basically impossible to counter on a developer level. I'd say just gather some corp members and hope for the best as far as getting into matches...
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2012.10.17 00:57:00 - [3] - Quote I would say this is due to not having that much isk, people see it as a way to make money and not lose it. I do it outta boredom...
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.17 01:02:00 - [4] - Quote They will grow tired of it as more and more people level up their shields and armor. Right now it's all happy fun times but when you can't kill anyone without investing a few hundred thousand SP in to sniper rifles it won't be all fun and games for them anymore. And they'll also grow tired of getting killed by other snipers over and over again because they don't have the skill to use a gun with less than 60 rounds in the clip to begin with. Although the tac rifle thing kind of sucks and is only going to get worse but there's not really anything you can do about it. Most of these "snipers" out there can only kill you if you're standing still which you really shouldn't be doing unless you're sniping. On maps with lots and lots of these "snipers" I run a heavy fit with an advanced sniper rifle. After a little while of that they tend to make themselves very scarce.
Prince Ombra Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2012.10.17 01:02:00 - [5] - Quote Bunch of posers, I was sniping before it was cool.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.10.17 01:28:00 - [6] - Quote Can we get some more snipers please! I think its just new people getting used to the game, once they realize how fun the front line is they will give it up. Especially after getting melee to the back of the head or ran over enough times
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.10.17 01:33:00 - [7] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Can we get some more snipers please! I think its just new people getting used to the game, once they realize how fun the front line is they will give it up. Especially after getting melee to the back of the head or ran over enough times But it is satisfying tearing apart a heavy trying to hunt you down
Obama DAT Doomheim 389	Posted - 2012.10.17 02:26:00 - [8] - Quote Sniper 514
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.17 02:28:00 - [9] - Quote Running up on a sniper with my HMG out and quickly switching to my pistol is also satisfying as I can almost see the look of confusion on their faces as they realize that holy crap that heavy really is shooting them from that far away. This usually happens about a second or so after they're dead.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.10.17 02:29:00 - [10] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: Can we get some more snipers please! I think its just new people getting used to the game, once they realize how fun the front line is they will give it up. Especially after getting melee to the back of the head or ran over enough times But it is satisfying tearing apart a heavy trying to hunt you down I consider you the exception

KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.10.17 03:00:00 - [11] - Quote Its a sickness. Camping is a hard temptation to resist. :)
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.10.17 03:14:00 - [12] - Quote I blame the default fittings. We get one with an AR, one with a Swarm Launcher, and one with a Sniper Rifle. They should replace them -- heavy with a forge gun/smg, scout with a mass driver/scrambler pistol, assault one with a laser rifle/smg, and a logi one with a scrambler pistol.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.10.17 03:47:00 - [13] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: I blame the default fittings. We get one with an AR, one with a Swarm Launcher, and one with a Sniper Rifle. They should replace them -- heavy with a forge gun, scout with a mass driver, assault one with a laser rifle, and a logi one with a scrambler pistol. Making access to the sniper rifle require more effort could help. Not a bad idea. But I think an SMG for the starter fit might be more practical.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.10.17 03:54:00 - [14] - Quote KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: Longshot Ravenwood wrote: I blame the default fittings. We get one with an AR, one with a Swarm Launcher, and one with a Sniper Rifle. They should replace them -- heavy with a forge gun, scout with a mass driver, assault one with a laser rifle, and a logi one with a scrambler pistol. Making access to the sniper rifle require more effort could help. Not a bad idea. But I think an SMG for the starter fit might be more practical. Updated my original post with the pairings. I just threw the logi w/ a scrambler pistol because it's one of the fits I use. Frees up a lot of CPU to get good militia equipment in. Also, makes me smile when I kill an AR user.
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.10.17 05:01:00 - [15] - Quote Tbh snipers are a factor in the game, deal with it. I'm a logi, and tbh i rarely have trouble with snipers on the fighting end of it... i understand OPs point with its annoying everyone snipes, can make for a boring game, but developer intervention is not needed for that. Either way a win is a win, and if someone wants to rock camp while I win, then im happy with it. Now heavies I understand have the real issue with snipers, but again, its the natural balance of the game. Obviously a heavy, especially with speed impediments, shouldnt be out in the open without support. Usually heavies should be rolling in groups anyways as this is a -team- orientated game. Tbh the real threat with scouts, more then any kill could ever do (and tbh, the vast majority of snipers are crap even if they think they are good; a good sniper should consistently have a 4.5-5kd+) is that they have a great view of the battlefield and are key with callouts. That isnt OP though, thats thier role, and a good sniper knows how to use it. Tbh scouts are fine in this regard, devs (especially CCP) gotta know when there is a time to intervene and a time to let things take their course. I'm sure a lot of the sniper obsession will die down anyways, and in a competitive match a full team of snipers wont do anything.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.10.17 05:37:00 - [16] - Quote Let me get this straight. You concern is not that there is too much snipers in general but that you find yourself on teams where most ppl snipe instead of cooperating and getting objectives done - did I understand you correctly? If this is the case, it's not that sniping is to blame that there is lack of cooperation. All you need is to get into a corp with good discipline and do things together with ppl you know and can count on. There is no need to embark on an unnecessary witch hunt. Sniper is a lazy job and is far from OP. When game enters a competitive phase with disciplined corps competing with one another, i bet sniping will get much harder as there would be designated ppl in each team whose job would be to run around in mountains and hunt snipers since snipers at a close range are sitting ducks.
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.10.17 06:10:00 - [17] - Quote Vektus Alvoraan wrote: Sniping right now is so perfect, everybody is taking advantage of it, which is getting extremely annoying. Especially when you wanna try to srategise with your team, when all they do is snipe! Please look into this. I've heard many people say that sniping is too difficult. Right now sniping is a fad. These kinds of players will find another bandwagon to jump on eventually. Until then, I suggest you find a few squads you know you can trust and try to queue-sync.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.17 06:18:00 - [18] - Quote sniping has gotten rather obnoxious. i hear bullets wiz by my head all the time on some maps. while my teammates are completely useless because they are all sniping as well. trying to take a point by myself is practically impossible because of weapon choice or i am out numbered
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.10.17 07:12:00 - [19] - Quote Vektus Alvoraan wrote: Sniping right now is so perfect, everybody is taking advantage of it, which is getting extremely annoying. Especially when you wanna try to srategise with your team, when all they do is snipe! Please look into this. I'm curious, what play times do you primarily roll in? (time of day and tz) I've encountered few snipers in the last three days I've played (my last three days however have been less time and more spread out than last build due to the SP cap so it's far from a comprehensive sample.) Fewer than five total sans one game where the opposing team capped all three objectives and then seemed to nearly all go sniper in the mountains above each (that was a partial game so I don't know if they started out running sniper so heavy or switched over after they'd capped the objectives). 0.02 ISK Cross
Umbat Boki Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2012.10.17 08:07:00 - [20] - Quote Sniping can guarantee decent amount of ISK/SP even in losing team while other activities can't. The problem here is that sniping provide good amount of WP while not taking you any closer to victory. Also, kills itself gives you more ISKs than capturing/repairing/reviving/etc..

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.10.17 08:56:00 - [21] - Quote What I can't figure out is why are these people making themselves such good targets for me to shoot, and rarely if ever does anyone try to take me out.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.10.17 11:23:00 - [22] - Quote simple fix, big kick on your shot yes this will annoying for snipers but i kick, is very different from a sway, the idea behind the kick is to stop double taps that are happening, so that if you get hit you have solid chance to get into cover, thats all i think they really need, right now their OP as hell


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