Why all the OP thread I've seen one dropship thi build

Because you can only complain about silent LAV's, so much.....really!? -- it drove up the stairs behind me without making a noise?

CCP modeled the swarm launcher missle flight path after the bullets in Eddie Valiants gun from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

And I just assumed the dropship pilots were nascar fans, who have been trained to go around the circle for hours on end, not really doing anything.

So is it the dropships or the swarms that's broken?

I'm not to fond of the dropships flight mechanics and tli think their ill suited for a transport craft however I do think dropships should loose speed in turn for boff to HP and more resistance module bonuses.

As for swarms I think they have a horrible missile flight design and should be chamged.

I just haven't use swarms much or seen dropships this build and wad wondering how they would impact the curret drops and swarms

So is it the dropships or the swarms that's broken?

I'm not to fond of the dropships flight mechanics and tli think their ill suited for a transport craft however I do think dropships should loose speed in turn for boff to HP and more resistance module bonuses.

As for swarms I think they have a horrible missile flight design and should be chamged.

I just haven't use swarms much or seen dropships this build and wad wondering how they would impact the curret drops and swarms

Why all the OP thread I've seen one dropship thi build

The dropship has a PR problem in that it is extremely visable and therefore on every players mind at all times.

LAV's and HAV's are hidden from view a great deal of the time so people can forget about them.

Players then assume that they should be able to not only chase them off, but also destroy them with militia level swarms. They can't do that to well fit LAVs, but those aren't so noticeable. Well driven HAVs also last an entire round. But let a dropship last the whole round and you get outrage.

I've seen most dropships go down to these pop guns anyway. It's the rare pilot who is keeping up his speed and/or has spent the huge SP investment to fit a survivable craft.

I think we're going about this the wrong way. Instead of asking "How can we make it possible to kill a dropship while it's doing the only thing that could be considered 'evasive actions' allowed by its flight physics?" we should be asking "How can we make it so 'swarm dodging flight' and 'warfighting flight' aren't the same thing?" In other words, let's make it so that flying around at top speed isn't the way for dropships to earn warpoints.

1) Range penalties on the turrets. The turrets need to be there, because that's how a dropship provides support and cover to troops it drops off, but it should lose effectiveness past 15m or so. Reduced damage, reduced accuracy, something.

2) Transport assist points. CCP has mentioned before that they're planning this, or something similar. For those of you not familiar with the idea, they'll have pilots get a portion of warpoints earned by anyone they recently dropped off.

3) Remove the swarm starter suit. As it is now every time a dropship or HAV appears on the field every d-bag grabs his swarm starter suit and goes to town. This is why you rarely see HAVs anymore and dropships are forced to behave the way they do.

What does this change?
You still won't be able to kill a dropship that is moving at max speed around the map. Not with swarms, anyway. But that pilot won't be able to make any money that way anymore. Instead, he or she will be taking position over cap points and supporting troops with rapid transport and acting as a mobile spawn point that shoots missiles. Maybe even fitting a remote rep, who knows? The point is that its role is being changed from "doofy looking AC-130" to "ground support aircraft" like it's supposed to be.
And while it's doing that ground support it's not flying at max speed, and a vigilant AV troop has an opportunity to do damage. Thus avoiding swarms becomes about situational awareness and reflexes, not holding the joystick forward and slightly to the left.

I believe that these three things (one of which CCP has all but stated is coming) are the best way to get the gameplay to where we want.

Dropships have to lose all speed when making a turn. Ignoring altitude, you can picture them as if you are sitting on a chair on an ice rink. Your only method of propulsion is a fire extinguisher. Fire it one way and you are pushed off in the other.

You have no wings, so you can't "dig into the ice" to turn. If you want to stop going in that direction you have to fire your extinguisher in the opposite direction. So to "turn around" and come back you first have to cancel all velocity in that direction, then start jetting back.

The only reason the dropship is not stopping as it circles is that it is constantly accelerating in a new direction as it decelerates in another.

Picture what you would have to do with your extinguisher sitting on your chair to circle the ice rink. That's what the dropping pilot is doing

What AA weapons the swarm? The forge is clasifed by it anti tank role with spill over into AP an AA. What other AA thing is there?

Swarms should have a increase to speed and loose their 360 turns.

please, it isnt all that complicated