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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.10.15 19:52:00 -
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I support this. +1
I hate it when people point out the "living with the consequences of your actions" thing; any preceding action done as a way to undo a consequence is itself a consequence. If you spend real money to reallocate SP, then your consequence is that you lose real money. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.15 23:10:00 -
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I really don't see the problem with a full respecialization as long as it can't be done too often, or it its very costly. The only way it should present a problem is if what the person is respecializing into is overpowered, but that wouldn't be because of the respec option that its be overpowered.
Specializing into something OP, or respecializing from something else OP is equally bad, I don't see why respecializing would be any worse. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:33:00 -
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Harshness for the sake of harshness, I don't see the point. Its just inconveniencing people in something that is suppose to be fun just you can brag about how hardcore you are for playing this game. If someone picked the wrong skill and realized "oops I picked the wrong skill" right then, how does making them have to stick with it make the game better, or more fun? It doesn't.
If its for some sense of "realistic consequence", consider you can refund something you buy in a real life store if you haven't opened it and still have the receipt (many cases even after you open it). |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Live with the consequences of your choices. If your consequences are not permanent, then your choices have no meaning.
Eve Online operates under this rule and CCP made it abundantly clear last year that Dust will operate under this same principle.
1_ You are making a false distinction about what is a consequence and what is not a consequence. Choosing to redistribute skill points, and paying the price and penalty of that choice is just as much a choice with consequences, and to suggest otherwise would be a very arbitrary distinction.
2_ Making people have to live with the consequences of their actions is great when its about player politics and the persistent universe, but not so much with skills, and such a restriction doesn't make the game better or more enjoyable. I don't see the value of forcing players to stick with a choice that was made uninformed; every time you decide to spend skill points to get a new weapon type, or new vehicle type (if there is no militia version), you are making an uninformed decision because its totally new to you and you might have never had a chance to try it to even know if you like it.
3_ If EVE online was as you described, this would not exist.
4_ The whole "meaning" thing is fuzzy. Some hippy could argue that things only have meaning because they aren't permanent, and we die, thus making our lives more precious... somehow, so it could be argued that something being permanent makes it meaningless. Someone can say that we're all going to die, and anyone your actions effect will eventually die, and eventually all humanity will be extinct, so nothing we do has any meaning. "Meaning" used in this context is used to mean value, but value is completely subjective; people say diamonds are precious and stuff, but to me its just an overrated pretty rock with some kind of interesting physical properties, among a big list of pretty rocks.
If ANYTHING gives your current skill configurations meaning, its the fact that you had to grind your way to get those skill points, its the time and effort you put into it. A respec would not take that away, the time and effort you spent to earn them won't become undone, you don't just get a bunch of skill points for free; the skill points would only be converted to a different configuration of skills. You would still have had to grind your way to get the new skill configuration you respecialized to if you were working towards that from the beginning, so either way time and effort is spent. |
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