DUST Search - quality of gameplay

Darth Tyrannnus wrote:

Skihids wrote:

Darth Tyrannnus wrote:

in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair.

It's the same SP cap whether it's divided up by week or by day. You aren't getting 1/7th of what you were before, you just have seven days to get your cap now.

I'm sure that CCP will take note of your gamer classification system.

i still seem to be getting LESS SP per game though. my miniumun last build was 10k, now it's down to 3k. that's the problem i'm having, i prefered the daily cap as i could reach it faster

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Darth Tyrannnus Citadel Mercantile Exchange Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange 26	Posted - 2012.10.15 03:42:00 - [1] - Quote in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:01:00 - [2] - Quote Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. It's the same SP cap whether it's divided up by week or by day. You aren't getting 1/7th of what you were before, you just have seven days to get your cap now. I'm sure that CCP will take note of your gamer classification system.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. what is your definition of casual. what is a casual FPS to you? is there such a thing as a hard core FPS? because i don't believe there is one.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:54:00 - [4] - Quote Necrodermis wrote: Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. what is your definition of casual. what is a casual FPS to you? is there such a thing as a hard core FPS? because i don't believe there is one. On PC yes. On console no. If this game was a skill based shooter we would have insane strafe speeds. This is a casual game. The eve players say they want one thing and then ask for another. I think the issue is most eve players don't understand what a hardcore fps is.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:58:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: On PC yes. On console no. If this game was a skill based shooter we would have insane strafe speeds. This is a casual game. The eve players say they want one thing and then ask for another. I think the issue is most eve players don't understand what a hardcore fps is. if this was a hard core FPS there would be no skills at all. no leveling up stats. you pick something that has a base line and use it. customization would be very limited and everything else would be based on the game play not the content.
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.15 06:05:00 - [6] - Quote Truthfully, this game is more of a MMORPG than a FPS. yes, you play from a first-person perspective. and yes, you shoot guns. but everything else about Dust is RPG if you look past the fluff promo talk and look at the game itself.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.15 06:08:00 - [7] - Quote Necrodermis wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: On PC yes. On console no. If this game was a skill based shooter we would have insane strafe speeds. This is a casual game. The eve players say they want one thing and then ask for another. I think the issue is most eve players don't understand what a hardcore fps is. if this was a hard core FPS there would be no skills at all. no leveling up stats. you pick something that has a base line and use it. customization would be very limited and everything else would be based on the game play not the content. Yep they are balanced and who ever has the better aim wins. Balance aside the hardcore aspects is something I thought eve players would like. They talk about how hardcore of gamers they are but when it comes to fps they want dust to be casual with low strafe speeds so they can track the target easily.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.15 06:11:00 - [8] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Yep they are balanced and who ever has the better aim wins. Balance aside the hardcore aspects is something I thought eve players would like. They talk about how hardcore of gamers they are but when it comes to fps they want dust to be casual with loe strafe speeds so they can track the target easily. the only thing hardcore about EVE is the patience required and the RTS aspect (large fleets only). other than that, it's pretty much who is going to jump who with how many more guys first.
Darth Tyrannnus Citadel Mercantile Exchange Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange 26	Posted - 2012.10.15 14:26:00 - [9] - Quote Skihids wrote: Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. It's the same SP cap whether it's divided up by week or by day. You aren't getting 1/7th of what you were before, you just have seven days to get your cap now. I'm sure that CCP will take note of your gamer classification system. i still seem to be getting LESS SP per game though. my miniumun last build was 10k, now it's down to 3k. that's the problem i'm having, i prefered the daily cap as i could reach it faster
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.10.15 16:28:00 - [10] - Quote Darth Tyrannnus wrote: Skihids wrote: Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. It's the same SP cap whether it's divided up by week or by day. You aren't getting 1/7th of what you were before, you just have seven days to get your cap now. I'm sure that CCP will take note of your gamer classification system. i still seem to be getting LESS SP per game though. my miniumun last build was 10k, now it's down to 3k. that's the problem i'm having, i prefered the daily cap as i could reach it faster You could reach it faster, but you had to reach it seven times. Is it really taking you more game play to hit your weekly cap than it did to hit your seven daily caps, or is it more a perception thing? There was an additional change where the SP cost of skills were lowered, and I believe the SP earned may have been lowered as well. If so that would account for some of your lowered rewards (though the majority may be the diminishing reward calculation).

Raven Tesio Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant 35	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:04:00 - [11] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Necrodermis wrote: Darth Tyrannnus wrote: in my opinion? this game has gotten worse with each new build. xp timer now resets every WEEK instead of day? that is ********, also, the amount of isk i make seems to have gone down. while game mechanics have improved, quality has suffered as CCP has given in to the demands of 'casual gamers.' there's no such thing, 'casual gamers' are just people who suck. EVE isn't for 'casual players' and neither should dust 514. if this game relased right now, i'd put it down right after i tried it out, it sucks. stop nerfing everything to try and make it balanced so these 'casual gamers' are happy. war isn't fair. what is your definition of casual. what is a casual FPS to you? is there such a thing as a hard core FPS? because i don't believe there is one. On PC yes. On console no. If this game was a skill based shooter we would have insane strafe speeds. This is a casual game. The eve players say they want one thing and then ask for another. I think the issue is most eve players don't understand what a hardcore fps is. Frankly there is a level of kitten elitism within FPS where each person believes that the one they play (and this arguement is ALWAY true when PC vs Console comes in to the discussion) is Hardcore with other games not being such. People can claim "EVE is Hardcore" as much as they want, but the truth is the only REAL difference between a Casual, Core and Hardcore; is often the time that they have available to them to play. CCP understands this all to well, while gamers on the whole don't even have the faintest idea what these terms really mean because they make up whatever definition they choose so they can pigeon hole themselves within some arbitrary group to feel better about themselves. Seriously grow the kitten up, IT IS A GAME MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT / RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. I would also like to point out that in realistic terms, most people who deem themselves "Hardcore Gamers" frankly are no such thing as they will focus entirely on a single game as if it was the greatest thing since the creation of the Universe, often believing themselves better than the rest of the said given community alienating themselves from the REAL benefit of playing games which is enjoyment and in terms of MMO titles a strong Social community. If you want real proof that your mentality towards games is frankly misguided at best, then look at EVE. The largest group of "Casual" players are Goonswarm who currently enjoy holding 75% of the Universe within their grasp taking great pleasure from destroying everyone elses gaming experience. You can claim "EVE is a Hardcore game meant only for the strongest to survive" but seriously that is just kitten mess. It is all about the friends you have regardless of your individual talents or the time you personally are willing to put in, because a single person frankly is a grain of sand in the universe. Look at it this way right now with people saying that this game isn't even an FPS but an RPG, simply because there are what are deemed "Traditionally RPG elements" ... the Term RPG simply mean ROLE Playing Game, not "Stats Increase Game" and frankly it ashames me to be part of a modern gaming community today that can't understand the damn differenciation between Classification Terms so everyone can get a quick grasp on what a game might entail over the actual gameplay mechanics that create the games core experience. If you can't understand any of this and hold on to your frankly ancient terminology particularly in a period where genre classification is becoming more difficult because developers are finally realising that you can successfully blend elements from other genres to improve depth within a game, then you have no right to deem yourselves gamers as you can't see past your own noses to the wider gaming world that there is. By all means instead stay in your nice neatly constructed boxes of what games should be ignoring the potencial evolution they can take on, along with trying to hold bitterly to platform stereotypes to make yourselves feel better about classifying yourselves as "Hardcore Gamers" I for one am truely thankful that it has been many years since anyone has considered me to be part of that elitist backward looking group, most of whom today don't even know what a bloody Commodore 64 or Spectrum ZX is ... believing that games they play today are truely hardcore while having never experienced Battletoads or Elite. You want hardcore, go play Elite and just see how long you survive for.. or even more Hardcore, play it's sequal starting at the Lave (traditional) starting point. THOSE are Hardcore games, what most of you play today are like being wrapped in bubble wrap in comparison.


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