The two we won was the two games my group started from the beginning. The rest was more or less already lost. Spawning in with all objectives red, often 2-3 groups of high quality players on the other team, already redlining us. Many games I couldn't even walk out of the spawn without having 5-10 players just waiting, fighting over who got to kill me.

It's getting old.

I dunno how to counter this, wait for launch and bigger groups? Corp battles? Should I just quit the round? Penalty for quitting games perhaps? Start to snipe from the redline like all the other babies? Something needs to be done about this issue, it will not be a source of popularity post launch.

starting a game from the very beginning, now there's a novelty. don't think it happened once yesterday and always less than half a game to go.. it's getting ridiculous!!

It does seem a lot more common in Dust 514 to start a round half way through where your team is getting some surprise sex from the Enemy team. It wont be a problem for Corps come launch but for games in high sec with mostly randomers I suspect it will be a common sight. Not sure what measures would correct this problem.

Sshh its a beta don't you know

Lol

Happened to me several times tonight.

One of the few matches I started from the beginning, we had 2, they had 1. Soon after garme start 6 good players appeared on the other team. 7 vs 2.

My other corpie got killed 3 times and quit. I just waited until I was booted from the match. Whats the point?

This is true, but in order to test it, a superior matchmaking system would be beneficial. I can understand why they wouldn't want to waste too much time on a system that is possibly only going to loosely be connected to the final game, but its definitely not helping us beta testers.

I agree with you 100%. My post above crossed yours in the ether!

There are such basic issues that need to be resolved, its a beta, yeah, but there can't be much productive test data when the matches are with the numbers like what we are talking about.....

Maybe the Euro and US servers make up for it with their greater numbers. I know you are from the Australian server as am I, have seen you there many times. We both know how abysmal most matches are, barring maybe a few in the time after downtime.

Simple solution. Quit a game. You cannot join a new one till the last one ends. And you get 2 losses on your stats. Will stop the stat paddlers from leaving.

CCP should make it so those empty spots are not filled. If you dominate an enemy so bad they rage quit, too bad. You're team deserves the win, and the other team deserves the loss. You should get a loss on your record if you abort the game (needs to be separate from lagging out of the game) and you should get no SP and no ISK. The winning side should also should be allowed to continue dominating, even if everyone on the side quits. Dont end the game, dont send new victims. If its a skirmish, the winning team can go hack everything on the map and get SP, and in an ambush the timer can run out. I'll gladly sit in a match with no enemies if i've already dominated them so bad they quit.

Lets stop taking this path down the road of everything should be fair at all times, even if you suck. No more medals just for participating. give losses and no rewards for quiting a match, and you'll see the win ratio of a few corporations drop dramatically.

The two we won was the two games my group started from the beginning. The rest was more or less already lost. Spawning in with all objectives red, often 2-3 groups of high quality players on the other team, already redlining us. Many games I couldn't even walk out of the spawn without having 5-10 players just waiting, fighting over who got to kill me.

It's getting old.

I dunno how to counter this, wait for launch and bigger groups? Corp battles? Should I just quit the round? Penalty for quitting games perhaps? Start to snipe from the redline like all the other babies? Something needs to be done about this issue, it will not be a source of popularity post launch.

For me 50/50 or whatever

I have seen 4 man groups from clans on here that have backed out of games even when the match has just started and we happen to have capped all the points with LAVs

Beta W/L goes out the window with randoms and resets

In principle I do agree, the problem is however all the times you get kicked from games involuntarily due to freezes. If there was some sort of mechanism to distinguish the two I would very much like to see it implemented.

Agreed.
It all gets wiped but once release comes its still going to be easy to see those that never back away from a fight and those Corps. that stat pad.

True but even with the hotfix you can see that now

Clans which just called in OB and not just by boosting but by playing are no longer getting loads of kills or even dominatiing the game simply because they dont have 10 strikes lined up to hit anything at anytime

They are backing out, im seeing more groups backing out after the hotfix because maybe the other team will give them trouble and they cant relly on easy OB to help them out

I've noticed this trend as well. Matches where ur squad starts from the beginning do seem easier to win. There really needs to be a way to communicate with blue dots when you are in a squad without switching mid-game between squad/team voice. Its really frustrating to take it in the teeth and fight to secure an objective only to have it taken back because organized team objective defense is difficult to achieve.

i was on kingbabars team a lot, it was very frustrating. one time a whole team spawned after the other team had already taken over the whole map!!!!!!!!!!!!!