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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:08:00 -
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Well i was just browsing through that forums and I saw a post where someone said that they havent got mad at their squadmates yet!
And that got me thinking;- how can you not yell or scream at your squad mates? If you are getting you a$$ whooped, you have to get annoyed and take it out on someone. Who better than your squad mates? I have been playing with my clan for 6 years now and we almost everyday yell and scream at each other! In the end we have good games (win or loose) and then go tap our bongs or drink ourselves silly!
Just like any healthy relationship I think yelling and screaming during a game is HEALTHY! Its ok to get mad at one another, but not ok to stay mad!
What do you think? |
Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
103
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:16:00 -
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Never had that problem. We play to have fun, not to have some nerd to tell us we just got 50 DKP minus. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:17:00 -
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Pointless
Espc in a beta |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:20:00 -
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Maturity has something to do with it. Yelling at someone is not a sign of a healthy relationship in my book. It shows lack of control and disrespect for the person being yelled at. I don't enjoy being screamed at and I will not do it to other people. The battle is mayhem enough, you don't need to add to it. A cool head and a calm voice will give confidence and assurance to your team mates during stressful times. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:25:00 -
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Maintain low tones. Don't get mad at videogames, its the only rule. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:30:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Maturity has something to do with it. Yelling at someone is not a sign of a healthy relationship in my book. It shows lack of control and disrespect for the person being yield at. I don't enjoy being screamed at and I will not do it to other people. The battle is mayhem enough, you don't need to add to it. A cool head and a calm voice will give confidence and assurance to your team mates during stressful times.
Um! No one can stay that cool! Even Mr Spock couldnt stay that cool! Saying that someone keeps a cool head and never gets mad is absolute fabrication. Control is all about power and generally doesnt go with respect/disrespect. Control is associated with fear! If one says they are in control, its generally because of fear! If there is respect, there is no need for control.
With that said all gamers are just human! And humans are imperfect! And during moments of imperfection people do scream! Saying that one never yells or screams during a game is an absolute fabrication. How can you not scream or get mad or get upset when things are not going your way? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:34:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:How can you not scream or get mad or get upset when things are not going your way?
Wait: Being stoned helps but thats not what I am talking about here!
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:43:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:843 pano wrote:Maturity has something to do with it. Yelling at someone is not a sign of a healthy relationship in my book. It shows lack of control and disrespect for the person being yield at. I don't enjoy being screamed at and I will not do it to other people. The battle is mayhem enough, you don't need to add to it. A cool head and a calm voice will give confidence and assurance to your team mates during stressful times. Um! No one can stay that cool! Even Mr Spock couldnt stay that cool! Saying that someone keeps a cool head and never gets mad is absolute fabrication. Control is all about power and generally doesnt go with respect/disrespect. Control is associated with fear! If one says they are in control, its generally because of fear! If there is respect, there is no need for control. With that said all gamers are just human! And humans are imperfect! And during moments of imperfection people do scream! Saying that one never yells or screams during a game is an absolute fabrication. How can you not scream or get mad or get upset when things are not going your way?
Yes people can stay that cool.
All it takes is a bit of perspective, generally gained with age.
You realiize that this is a game you play for enjoyment, and that allowing yourself to get upset to the point of taking it out on someone is counter productive to the mission. If it upsets you that much perhaps you should find some less frustrating way of spending your play time.
It's only a game. You can use poor performance to motivate yourself, but that is constructive rather than destructive. |
The Dragon Ascendant
Celtic Anarchy
101
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:48:00 -
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Don't get mad with your allies, get even with your enemies. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:52:00 -
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Getting mad at your squad in the middle of the game equals you probably for sure loosing the match because your concentrating to much on yelling and qqing instead of shooting your enemy I have seen many squads just get destroyed. Now if you need to talk about things that went wrong it is best to save that for after the battle and work it out then.
You just fortify the win when you get pissy and start yelling in the middle of the game at your squad mates. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:57:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Yes people can stay that cool.
All it takes is a bit of perspective, generally gained with age.
You realiize that this is a game you play for enjoyment, and that allowing yourself to get upset to the point of taking it out on someone is counter productive to the mission. If it upsets you that much perhaps you should find some less frustrating way of spending your play time.
It's only a game. You can use poor performance to motivate yourself, but that is constructive rather than destructive.
So you mean to say if someone on your squad is not playing nice, will you tell him nicely that he messed up or would you yell at him about it? And whats more, is he going to listen better when you tell him nicely or when you yell at him or speak to him in a stern tone.
Lets face it;- most people take things for granted when they are told things nicely. Its the same thing a quarterback missing a throw. You wont find the coach sitting him on his lap, playing with hair and telling the quarterback he messed up. He would pull the quarterback with his helmet and yell and spit in his face, telling him how he flucked up.
Being nice will not help your team or squad improve. You are setting yourself up for mediocrity. Being passionate about something not only gets your squad to improve but also makes you improve too.
As far as gaming is concerned there are a lot of us who take gaming seriously but have fun with it too. And as far as how serious the gaming industry is;- its a multi billion dollar industry. Most companies have clans and squads within themselves and encourage it as a team building exercise.
As far as perspective is concerned it does not come with age. It comes with hoe much time you spend with how much people. Only experience comes with age.
In the end, we can all agree to disagree. It makes life more interesting! |
Ky'noke Vyrus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:00:00 -
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I ran with Agony Unleashed and Mass Destruction for years in EvE and every squad leader was calm and collected and we slaughtered the competition more times than not partly because of it. I agree with the above poster. It comes with age and experience. Age mostly. EvE players are older than younger, and they usually don't have that problem.
*edit* on a side note there is friendly fire in eve too. If someone is being a jerk and not listening to your nice request. You tell the rest of the squad to pop and pod them. If they still don't get it a boot from the corp will settle it. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:04:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Now if you need to talk about things that went wrong it is best to save that for after the battle and work it out then.
I will agree and disagree wih this statement. I agree with the fact that it is a good idea to talk about stuff after the battle, but that in most cases means that you have lost!
However, if you can get your squad/team to change the tide of the battle while it is going on;- dont you think thats a better alternative?
If adapting means you get your squad to stop doing the shenanigans they are doing right now and move onto something productive, isnt that a viable solution?
In Dust we are talking about large contracts and loosing those would mean loosing ISK. Would you rather have the ISK than loose it? Why would anyone form corps and alliances, if it were not about contracts and territory and just fun? |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:05:00 -
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There are two ways of managing people, with a stick or with a carrot. Your life lessons will guide your choice. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:06:00 -
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843 pano wrote:There are two ways of managing people, with a stick or with a carrot. Your life lessons will guide your choice.
+1 for the above statement! |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:14:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Skihids wrote:Yes people can stay that cool.
All it takes is a bit of perspective, generally gained with age.
You realiize that this is a game you play for enjoyment, and that allowing yourself to get upset to the point of taking it out on someone is counter productive to the mission. If it upsets you that much perhaps you should find some less frustrating way of spending your play time.
It's only a game. You can use poor performance to motivate yourself, but that is constructive rather than destructive. So you mean to say if someone on your squad is not playing nice, will you tell him nicely that he messed up or would you yell at him about it? And whats more, is he going to listen better when you tell him nicely or when you yell at him or speak to him in a stern tone. Lets face it;- most people take things for granted when they are told things nicely. Its the same thing a quarterback missing a throw. You wont find the coach sitting him on his lap, playing with hair and telling the quarterback he messed up. He would pull the quarterback with his helmet and yell and spit in his face, telling him how he flucked up. Being nice will not help your team or squad improve. You are setting yourself up for mediocrity. Being passionate about something not only gets your squad to improve but also makes you improve too. As far as gaming is concerned there are a lot of us who take gaming seriously but have fun with it too. And as far as how serious the gaming industry is;- its a multi billion dollar industry. Most companies have clans and squads within themselves and encourage it as a team building exercise. As far as perspective is concerned it does not come with age. It comes with hoe much time you spend with how much people. Only experience comes with age. In the end, we can all agree to disagree. It makes life more interesting!
It's a matter of choosing your squadmates well. Don't pick people that require brow beating to be team players.
A team player will respond to calm tones. Loosing your temper is not a sign of seriousness, it is a sign of immaturity. The more important something is, the more important it is to remain cool. Think of test pilots or astronauts who are in the most serious position possible. "Huston, we have a problem" was a massive understatement made by someone who could keep his cool. It was that cool nerve that got Apollo 13 back home. Imagine instead if he released a string of profanity at his fellow astronauts and the entire ground crew. How would that have helped? Would it rather have degraded performance and possibly caused thier demise?
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:27:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:How can you not scream or get mad or get upset when things are not going your way? Wait: Being stoned helps but thats not what I am talking about here!
Thats what i do lol cant get mad when your mellow :) |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2012.10.10 21:08:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Maturity has something to do with it. Yelling at someone is not a sign of a healthy relationship in my book. It shows lack of control and disrespect for the person being yield at. I don't enjoy being screamed at and I will not do it to other people. The battle is mayhem enough, you don't need to add to it. A cool head and a calm voice will give confidence and assurance to your team mates during stressful times.
Best |
Gunner Needed
The Southern Legion
111
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Posted - 2012.10.10 21:39:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:How can you not scream or get mad or get upset when things are not going your way? Wait: Being stoned helps but thats not what I am talking about here!
the Truth has been told |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.10 21:50:00 -
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You know who I yell at?
Stupid gunners, and people that refuse to get out of my dropship. |
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