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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.09 05:45:00 -
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Fair Battle Treaty (Battle Code of Honnor):
The DUSTUniCon Meeting has been put off tell Sat the 20th due to some party's unable to attend. Meeting will be at 11am pt (1800 GameTime) we will be bring up the idea and terms of a GÇ£Fair Battle TreatyGÇ¥ based on the current 8v8 Corp battle Contracts
Ideas such as:
No farming WP for orbital support (Such as vehicle repping in the red zone)
No Sniping from Red Zone
No use of Glitches and/or Exploits EctGǪ
For interested Corps that would like to help influence and partake in this Treaty may attend the meeting on Sat Oct13 at 11am (1800 gametime) on C3 chat program on PC ( DownLoadC3.com ) search channel DUSTUniCon.
The Treaty will only have to be honored between those that agree to its terms
Zion [>Z<] has done these in a number of tactical shooters over the years and it is no diffrent then agreeing to rules set by gaming tourny sites.
For more info on DUSTUniCon click link
Any question please ask away |
The 86
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:11:00 -
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STB Should get in on this |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:27:00 -
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This should be interesting - quite a few nullsec wars have broken out over a broken treaty, IIRC.
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Project Truth
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:57:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:This should be interesting - quite a few nullsec wars have broken out over a broken treaty, IIRC.
Agreed But I like the idea A treaty on how to fight a war. Wow How can I truly agree with out sounding trolly? |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.13 04:58:00 -
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C3 info found here for meeting Oct 13 at 11am PT (1800GameTime)
http://dustunicon.enjin.com/forum/post/last/m/6824002/viewthread/4090742-c3-chat#last |
mongo flash
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.10.13 05:11:00 -
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U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!! |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.13 05:20:00 -
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mongo flash wrote:U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!!
Treaties usually are broken in a hail of fire, missiles, assassinations, thefts, and the occasional Doomsday.
:) |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.10.13 06:12:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:mongo flash wrote:U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!! Treaties usually are broken in a hail of fire, missiles, assassinations, thefts, and the occasional Doomsday. :)
Which is more awesome when there is a treaty to break. Otherwise it's just another Tuesday :L |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.13 06:19:00 -
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Fine by me if broken, but remember this is an FPS and breaking the treaty may only win one match, so dont expect the other team to up hold it in round 2.
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The 86
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.13 06:23:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:mongo flash wrote:U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!! Treaties usually are broken in a hail of fire, missiles, assassinations, thefts, and the occasional Doomsday. :) Which is more awesome when there is a treaty to break. Otherwise it's just another Tuesday :L
Ill be sure to expoilt the hell out of your team then Zero
This is the Matix Kittens, you wont get away with half your EVE back stabbing in battle here. |
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Nameless 514
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.13 07:08:00 -
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mongo flash wrote:U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!!
have you ever played a FPS before? |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.13 07:10:00 -
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A treaty between a bunch of money grabbing mercenaries?..
I can't wait to see how this is going to go.. down.. Might swing by and represent Enigma *shrugs* but I'm knackered as it is. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.10.13 08:30:00 -
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Nameless 514 wrote:mongo flash wrote:U know BOB had treaty's and look where they are now... lets not forget that this is new Eden and not honorable space samurai. Treatys are made to be broken in a hail of fire. KITTENS I LOVE THIS UNIVERSE!!! have you ever played a FPS before?
I don't get it.. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.10.13 12:25:00 -
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what is the details of what will be discussed? is this "fair battle treaty" some sort of discussing some pre-match agreement on what can or cant be used in the corp battle? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.13 12:36:00 -
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hey there. wont be able to attend the meeting but WTFR will be more than glad to suscribe if this treaty sets some solid bases to have fair behavior and fights in game. just my 2 cent, this treaty shouldnt be all battle side but also discuss meta gaming such as respect on public places, trolling and such.
keep me posted :) and good initiative |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:23:00 -
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Eh, thought this might be worth popping in for to see what it's all about but the channel returned an "access denied" error and it appears to be invite only. Also, searching DUStUniCon turns up nothing. You have to put a space in it "DUST UniCon".
EDIT: Maybe you plan to unlock it at the scheduled time? |
ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:45:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Fair Battle Treaty: During the DUSTUniCon Meeting coming this Sat at 11ampt (1800 GameTime) we will be bring up the idea and terms of a GÇ£Fair Battle TreatyGÇ¥ based on the current 8v8 Corp battle Contracts For interested Corps that would like to help influence and partake in this Treaty may attend the meeting on Sat Oct13 at 11am (1800 gametime) on C3 chat program on PC ( DownLoadC3.com ) search channel DUSTUniCon. The Treaty will only have to be honored between those that agree to its terms For more info on DUSTUniCon click link Any question please ask away
Once again ZION is trying to play HOUSE.
...CCP
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Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:57:00 -
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I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out.
It is like saying hey Hetairoi you have a Over Powered Dropship pilot it is not allowed in battle because it is not fair to the other corp. You think we are going to give a hoot what your treaty says when we know we can use it as a power house.
Same with tanks and other vehicles. And using eve players online for OBs If you have advantages your going to use them. There is nothing fair in warfare.
Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2012.10.13 18:01:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out.
It is like saying hey Hetairoi you have a Over Powered Dropship pilot it is not allowed in battle because it is not fair to the other corp. You think we are going to give a hoot what your treaty says when we know we can use it ia a power house.
Same with tanks and other vehicles. And using eve players online for OBs If you have advantages your going to use them. There is nothing fair in warfare.
Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe.
^this.
I really dont know what kind of treaty you can make, but goodluck to these people. Also making it is one thing, enforcing it is another, once again goodluck. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.13 18:07:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out.
It is like saying hey Hetairoi you have a Over Powered Dropship pilot it is not allowed in battle because it is not fair to the other corp. You think we are going to give a hoot what your treaty says when we know we can use it ia a power house.
Same with tanks and other vehicles. And using eve players online for OBs If you have advantages your going to use them. There is nothing fair in warfare.
Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe. ^this. I really dont know what kind of treaty you can make, but goodluck to these people. Also making it is one thing, enforcing it is another, once again goodluck.
what these 2 said u want fair? thats where the eSports oriented Gladiator arenas come into play where im sure ppl will be able to set rules and enforce them
as for FW/nullsec when fighting over territory? sorry not gonna happen. |
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Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.10.13 18:34:00 -
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I'm going to have to agree with Sin3 DeusNomine.
All is Fair in Love and War. |
KillUr Heros
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:02:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote: I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out.
ZionShad wrote:GÇ£Fair Battle TreatyGÇ¥ based on the current 8v8 Corp battle Contracts
The Treaty will only have to be honored between those that agree to its terms
I think you started your Trolling Deus before reading the details. He means only the current system not Planetary Warfare and hes not forcing it on you, only asking those intrested in a fare battle in the current system to check it out.
Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe.
The OP states Glitches, Exploits and WarPoint farming. I dont see anything about Tanks and Planes.
I think its a great idea and have been in clans that have done the same thing in COD and with everyone crying over SP farmers, I would think people be jumping on this. |
The 86
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:08:00 -
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KillUr Heros wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote: I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out. ZionShad wrote:GÇ£Fair Battle TreatyGÇ¥ based on the current 8v8 Corp battle Contracts
The Treaty will only have to be honored between those that agree to its terms I think you started your Trolling Deus before reading the details. He means only the current system not Planetary Warfare and hes not forcing it on you, only asking those intrested in a fare battle in the current system to check it out. Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe. The OP states Glitches, Exploits and WarPoint farming. I dont see anything about Tanks and Planes. I think its a great idea and have been in clans that have done the same thing in COD and with everyone crying over SP farmers, I would think people be jumping on this.
This is how I see it. Not sure what post Deus is playing. |
Project Truth
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:12:00 -
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I find Trolls Funny. They like to go in a post and bash on Kittens that have nothing to do with them or how they play a game.
TROLL LIST:
Mavado V Noriega
Baracka Flocka Flame
Sin3 DeusNomine
ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Your mothers must have shook U with rage when you where young |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.10.14 16:05:00 -
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KillUr Heros wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote: I am sorry but a fair battle treaty will never work Zion. When your fighting over planets that produce millions if not hundreds of millions of isk for corps I am guessing all guns are out. ZionShad wrote:GÇ£Fair Battle TreatyGÇ¥ based on the current 8v8 Corp battle Contracts
The Treaty will only have to be honored between those that agree to its terms I think you started your Trolling Deus before reading the details. He means only the current system not Planetary Warfare and hes not forcing it on you, only asking those intrested in a fare battle in the current system to check it out. Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Corps are allways going to use there powerhouse tools when they think it is going to give them the win. Whether you make a fair treaty convention or not. Your never going to have the power to enforce it. Not in a sandbox like eve/dust universe. The OP states Glitches, Exploits and WarPoint farming. I dont see anything about Tanks and Planes. I think its a great idea and have been in clans that have done the same thing in COD and with everyone crying over SP farmers, I would think people be jumping on this.
First off he is talking about more then just war point farming and glitches. If you guys think those are the only thing he wants to make a treaty about your kidding yourselves. It is also about trying to make teams fight on a even base. AKA if one team is unable to field tanks. Then they would want to get a treaty saying that tanks need to be not allowed in the battle.
Anyways I did not talk about those things because yes maybe glitching could be something someone does to gain a advantage but there are not many glitches that cause a I win anymore. And if your glitching that is something CCP will intervene on. Now for farming another subject I did not touch because there is no reason for someone to farm WPs in a corp battle. You get no sp in corp battles and if your farming your loosing. Let corps farm and loose 10m a pop at corp battles.
Yes you will have a select few corps that will try to do this but when you have such big stakes on the line you are not going to want restrictions on your play styles. This is not a game where it is just a loss when you loose. You also loose Isk and in the future people will not want to except your corp to defend there planet if you loose a battle.
Get mad if you want about me saying it will not work. But in the eve/dust sand box it is not likely it will.
@ Project Truth
You might want to read the definition of a troll <- Linked there
And then after you do that look at your post again and edit the list to include your name. :) Because your post basically defines the criteria. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2012.10.14 16:39:00 -
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Project Truth wrote:I find Trolls Funny. They like to go in a post and bash on Kittens that have nothing to do with them or how they play a game. TROLL LIST: Mavado V Noriega Baracka Flocka Flame Sin3 DeusNomine ReGnUM STBslayer DEI Your mothers must have shook U with rage when you where young
Sup
(Didn't know posting my opinion was trolling, sorry.) |
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