DUST Search - DUST is a First Person Grenader

John Chevelle wrote:

Let me put this simply. It is a flipping grenade, Designed to kill you using an explosive blast. My tip to you is to move more. It is very hard to aim with mass drivers and if you move you will have a better chance of surviving. Oh and its never a good idea to run head first at a guy/girl who is shooting explosives at you. 90% of the time you will die before you can get a hit on the dude.

If your just going to say "OH I MOVE AROUND ALL THE TIME BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING NOOOB GET SKILL." I might as well join you in the rageing party. So, where do i begin. We might as well get rid of swarm launchers because any type of explosive is op. On that note we might as well get rid of vehicles Because anything we cant shoot with our ar is op. Lets nerf of heavy suits because i cant run at them head first and kill then in 2 shots. Nerf scouts because they speed hax! I shouldn't be hit by a sniper ever so nerf them too. Oh, and make the sniper rifles bolt action. Shot guns are op. Anything that is better than an ar at CQC is op. The maps are too big. I cant keep track of where im going because the maps are too big. CCP fix the map sizes. Well, that is all I can think of atm.

Ps. This is not directed completely at the poster. This is for ALL of the people that sit in the forums and complain. Usually i'm a nice guy and I don't usually do this, but this is starting to get wayyy out of hand.

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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:41:00 - [1] - Quote Dust is definitely groundbreaking...it is developing into the first ever FPG. Grenades and Mass Drivers are becoming more OP. Some people don't even bother to shoot anymore. They just camp with grenades and noobtubes because the direct hit will kill you or the splash will bring finish your shield and bring your armor down to half. Some dudes only use noobtubes as their primary weapon. I know guys find the most OP things to use and run with them but at least give us some sort of resistance skill or something if you're going to allow those sort of weapons so easy to use and resupply and does so much damage. Pretty soon, everyone is just going to mass driver and grenade it up. And handheld weapons will be a thing of the past
Raxsus1 Doomheim 42	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:53:00 - [2] - Quote Grenades aren't that big of a problem seeing as how they don't work half the time., and play any other FPS and guess what people are going to do the same thing. Play BF3 and you'll see what i mean
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:53:00 - [3] - Quote i tend to agree its a chuck and run experience, some of the COD grenade spam randomly into the air but most nubs have such terrible accurace in 5 rounds they cant seem to stick you so they throw in the grenade out of fear.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:57:00 - [4] - Quote I must have a heatseeking signature for grenades then....because I get killed and damaged by those more than anythng else. I play BF3 and its not an issue there. The grenades are rarely an issue in BF3....especially since the movements are faster.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:59:00 - [5] - Quote Mass drivers aren't OP. Its much easier to kill someone with an assault rifle, but whenever any gun even gets close to being as good as the assault rifle, people call OP. Exaggerating strengths while ignoring weaknesses. Fuse grenades need a nerf though, if they detonate on impact, their damage should not be instant kill.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.10.04 15:59:00 - [6] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust is definitely groundbreaking...it is developing into the first ever FPG. Grenades and Mass Drivers are becoming more OP. Some people don't even bother to shoot anymore. They just camp with grenades and noobtubes because the direct hit will kill you or the splash will bring finish your shield and bring your armor down to half. Some dudes only use noobtubes as their primary weapon. I know guys find the most OP things to use and run with them but at least give us some sort of resistance skill or something if you're going to allow those sort of weapons so easy to use and resupply and does so much damage. Pretty soon, everyone is just going to mass driver and grenade it up. And handheld weapons will be a thing of the past I don't really mind frag grenades, but the Noobtubing is ridiculous in some of the matches.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:00:00 - [7] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mass drivers aren't OP. Its much easier to kill someone with an assault rifle, but whenever any gun even gets close to being as good as the assault rifle, people call OP. You're blowing smoke dude. Mass Drivers are noob tubes this build.
olssam 62 What The French 37	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:01:00 - [8] - Quote Dust 514 is a first " STATIC " Fps
Isaa Quade ZionTCD Legacy Rising 107	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:04:00 - [9] - Quote Mass drivers are NOT op. They are nearly as good as assault rifles but not quite. I like having an alternative to assault rifles, why does everybody else not like that?
Sees-Too-Much 11	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:04:00 - [10] - Quote I tried using a mass driver for the first time last night. Went through 10 suits without a single kill, including some people who took direct hits. Pretty sure they're not that OP.

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:13:00 - [11] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: Mass drivers are NOT op. They are nearly as good as assault rifles but not quite. I like having an alternative to assault rifles, why does everybody else not like that? Alternatives would be hmg's, smg's, pistols, shotguns, etc. This is a shooter not an explosives spammer. But no disrespect, I'm just venting from the excessive use. I mean, people are really using nothing but mass drivers....no handhelds at all
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:17:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Dust is definitely groundbreaking...it is developing into the first ever FPG. Grenades and Mass Drivers are becoming more OP. Some people don't even bother to shoot anymore. They just camp with grenades and noobtubes because the direct hit will kill you or the splash will bring finish your shield and bring your armor down to half. Some dudes only use noobtubes as their primary weapon. I know guys find the most OP things to use and run with them but at least give us some sort of resistance skill or something if you're going to allow those sort of weapons so easy to use and resupply and does so much damage. Pretty soon, everyone is just going to mass driver and grenade it up. And handheld weapons will be a thing of the past I know what you are talking about. I was in a close combat situation with a dood with a mass driver and I got raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaped! I respawn and saw the same dood a little away from me. I put some distance between me and him! He tried mass driving me but could not get close! Flucked him up after that! ! Put some distance between you and the mass drivers yo! If you get close, you will get flucked!
Vickers S Grunt Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 67	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:20:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Mass drivers are NOT op. They are nearly as good as assault rifles but not quite. I like having an alternative to assault rifles, why does everybody else not like that? Alternatives would be hmg's, smg's, pistols, shotguns, etc. This is a shooter not an explosives spammer. But no disrespect, I'm just venting from the excessive use. I mean, people are really using nothing but mass drivers....no handhelds at all i just dont see the kind of mass massdriver use u are talking about here i would say maby 1 in 20-30 of the hostiles i come across use the massdriver . Even the few that i do encounter are easy to kill just w8 till thay run out off ammo and kill them easy
La Fortune Terranauts 36	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:20:00 - [14] - Quote Can't say I have this problem either, I'm usually too far away with a laser rifle for grenades or mass drivers to have any real effect. Besides, grenades already got indicators added to the HUD, they're far easier to avoid now.
John Chevelle 4	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:24:00 - [15] - Quote Let me put this simply. It is a flipping grenade, Designed to kill you using an explosive blast. My tip to you is to move more. It is very hard to aim with mass drivers and if you move you will have a better chance of surviving. Oh and its never a good idea to run head first at a guy/girl who is shooting explosives at you. 90% of the time you will die before you can get a hit on the dude. If your just going to say "OH I MOVE AROUND ALL THE TIME BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING NOOOB GET SKILL." I might as well join you in the rageing party. So, where do i begin. We might as well get rid of swarm launchers because any type of explosive is op. On that note we might as well get rid of vehicles Because anything we cant shoot with our ar is op. Lets nerf of heavy suits because i cant run at them head first and kill then in 2 shots. Nerf scouts because they speed hax! I shouldn't be hit by a sniper ever so nerf them too. Oh, and make the sniper rifles bolt action. Shot guns are op. Anything that is better than an ar at CQC is op. The maps are too big. I cant keep track of where im going because the maps are too big. CCP fix the map sizes. Well, that is all I can think of atm. Ps. This is not directed completely at the poster. This is for ALL of the people that sit in the forums and complain. Usually i'm a nice guy and I don't usually do this, but this is starting to get wayyy out of hand.
miahus CrimeWave Syndicate 78	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:31:00 - [16] - Quote codex is becoming an fpf, first person farmer. Almost every skirmish has half of the teams in the back crashing vehicles and repairing them then calling strikes all over the map.
Supercakers Algintal Core Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:40:00 - [17] - Quote The reason you are seeing a lot of mass driver kills now is because it actually WORKS! It had probably 50% chance to be a dud per shot last build, and with only 4-6 shots per clip, it wasn't getting much use. Now that it works, however, people are giving it a proper run through to see how well it does.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:46:00 - [18] - Quote John Chevelle wrote: Let me put this simply. It is a flipping grenade, Designed to kill you using an explosive blast. My tip to you is to move more. It is very hard to aim with mass drivers and if you move you will have a better chance of surviving. Oh and its never a good idea to run head first at a guy/girl who is shooting explosives at you. 90% of the time you will die before you can get a hit on the dude. If your just going to say "OH I MOVE AROUND ALL THE TIME BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING NOOOB GET SKILL." I might as well join you in the rageing party. So, where do i begin. We might as well get rid of swarm launchers because any type of explosive is op. On that note we might as well get rid of vehicles Because anything we cant shoot with our ar is op. Lets nerf of heavy suits because i cant run at them head first and kill then in 2 shots. Nerf scouts because they speed hax! I shouldn't be hit by a sniper ever so nerf them too. Oh, and make the sniper rifles bolt action. Shot guns are op. Anything that is better than an ar at CQC is op. The maps are too big. I cant keep track of where im going because the maps are too big. CCP fix the map sizes. Well, that is all I can think of atm. Ps. This is not directed completely at the poster. This is for ALL of the people that sit in the forums and complain. Usually i'm a nice guy and I don't usually do this, but this is starting to get wayyy out of hand. I totally get where you're coming from.....lol....grenades and mass drivers are actually doing what they are meant to do. Just like the orbital strikes are doing what they're supposed to do. But you have to agree, orbitals are way too easy to acquire and its very lethal. I was just using orbitals as an example that some weapons are extra. The only issue I have with the mass drive is that u can pop 4 of them without having to reload. I think you should have to reload after each grenade. But its no big deal...they don't have to nerf it....I would like a resistance skill however as I tend to run into dudes that prefer to throw grenades and noobtubes than most.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:47:00 - [19] - Quote miahus wrote: codex is becoming an fpf, first person farmer. Almost every skirmish has half of the teams in the back crashing vehicles and repairing them then calling strikes all over the map. Who cars if people farm? Its not gonna win games and especially corp matches. Check out the wins/losses ratio of all the top WP farmers. There is no ISK gained there. You can get the skill points for the best equipment but you dont have the ISK to buy it. And there is the people who grind and improve their combat skills. Even if the SP/WP farmers bring their best its just gonna get blown up! Report them. Report the farming. And lets go play some games. Leave those morons alone.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.10.04 17:21:00 - [20] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Mass drivers are NOT op. They are nearly as good as assault rifles but not quite. I like having an alternative to assault rifles, why does everybody else not like that? Alternatives would be hmg's, smg's, pistols, shotguns, etc. This is a shooter not an explosives spammer. But no disrespect, I'm just venting from the excessive use. I mean, people are really using nothing but mass drivers....no handhelds at all You don't decide what is a legitimate alternative or not. A light weapon is a light weapon. I wonder what game you're playing, but I barely seen mass drivers, maybe 3 or 4 users. Assault rifles are still by far the predominant weapons.



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