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          Aphex De Baal 
          D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:30:00 -
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          I've just seen a squad (GAC) today not participating, instead ordering vehicles, driving them into walls and repairing them. Now I understand why some people end up with huge WP at the end of a game without having seemingly done anything. 
  Obviously these people are total idiots, but how can we stop morons like this gaining a significant advantage by doing this sort of low life scum activity? 
  It also effects everyone on their team, as the team ends up 3 people down and losing, whilst they reap the rewards of being d%$kheads. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:32:00 -
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          No WP for repairing vehicles?
  just my thoughts | 
      
      
      
          
          Galthur 
          CrimeWave Syndicate
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:43:00 -
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          Just no wp for reparing vehicles in spawn or mcc as a logi i want to be rewarded when i help tanks and such | 
      
      
      
          
          Aphex De Baal 
          D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:44:00 -
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          Well I don't know how it works, but it's ruining skirmish games. Last game someone had 10k WP with 0/0 K/D.
  And people are wasting their valuable SP on equipment etc to play games where they are 4/5 players down due to skill boosters. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:44:00 -
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          you're getting SP though. i know im not completly familiar with the system, but as long as you don't get points for orbital strike, and get points for skills and ISK as a reward, it should be fine | 
      
      
      
          
          Aphex De Baal 
          D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:47:00 -
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          They must be getting something from it or they wouldn't be doing it. What exactly is WP anyway, it's points for doing stuff I know, but how does it translate into SPs?
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          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:48:00 -
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          Aphex De Baal wrote:They must be getting something from it or they wouldn't be doing it. What exactly is WP anyway, it's points for doing stuff I know, but how does it translate into SPs?
    thats what i wanna know, and thats not entirely true, its more incentive but you'll find people who will do it just to win the game | 
      
      
      
          
          Illuminaughty-696 
          Omega Risk Control Services
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:50:00 -
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          Discussion going on here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38920&find=unread
  definitely something people are wanting fixed. CCP has said they intend to address it in the updates thread here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&find=unread
  Anyway, yep.
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 Khortez D wrote:Aphex De Baal wrote:They must be getting something from it or they wouldn't be doing it. What exactly is WP anyway, it's points for doing stuff I know, but how does it translate into SPs?
   thats what i wanna know, and thats not entirely true, its more incentive but you'll find people who will do it just to win the game  
  Warscore gives orbital strikes. Orbital strikes give kills. Doing it from the safe zone means kills with no risk, which means KD/R padding. The WARRIORS for instance do this and it contributes to their high KDR. To what degree, I don't know. Never seem to see them on the field the few times I've been against them so I want to say a lot.
  Also, warscore contributes to your SP reward along with kills. So they are also SP farming, but mostly WP farming with the decreasing returns / skill point cap in place. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 00:55:00 -
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          id say make it so that repairing vehicles just contributes to your ISK/SP, and not to WP then | 
      
      
      
          
          ST1NK PICKLE 
          WARRIORS 1NC
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 01:00:00 -
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          Aphex De Baal wrote:I've just seen a squad (GAC) today not participating, instead ordering vehicles, driving them into walls and repairing them. Now I understand why some people end up with huge WP at the end of a game without having seemingly done anything. 
  Obviously these people are total idiots, but how can we stop morons like this gaining a significant advantage by doing this sort of low life scum activity? 
  It also effects everyone on their team, as the team ends up 3 people down and losing, whilst they reap the rewards of being d%$kheads.  
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          ST1NK PICKLE 
          WARRIORS 1NC
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 01:01:00 -
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          i agree 100%
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          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 01:02:00 -
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          Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Discussion going on here:  https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38920&find=unreaddefinitely something people are wanting fixed. CCP has said they intend to address it in the updates thread here:  https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&find=unreadAnyway, yep. Edit to include: Khortez D wrote:Aphex De Baal wrote:They must be getting something from it or they wouldn't be doing it. What exactly is WP anyway, it's points for doing stuff I know, but how does it translate into SPs?
   thats what i wanna know, and thats not entirely true, its more incentive but you'll find people who will do it just to win the game  Warscore gives orbital strikes. Orbital strikes give kills. Doing it from the safe zone means kills with no risk, which means KD/R padding. The WARRIORS for instance do this and it contributes to their high KDR. To what degree, I don't know. Never seem to see them on the field the few times I've been against them so I want to say a lot. Also, warscore contributes to your SP reward along with kills. So they are also SP farming, but mostly WP farming with the decreasing returns / skill point cap in place.  
   i just realized what your name is a reference to | 
      
      
      
          
          VADOL II 
          Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 01:34:00 -
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          Khortez D wrote:id say make it so that repairing vehicles just contributes to your ISK/SP, and not to WP then  
  Which would screw over the Logi class as a whole, and make even fewer people out there to heal you. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 01:40:00 -
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          how? that just sounds like all they want is OB | 
      
      
      
          
          Raze galder 
          Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:05:00 -
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          Just make it so you get no points for healing while in the red zone. That should effectively stop the redline boosters and the warriors group forcing them to play to work towards OB strikes and there SP without breaking logi healers | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:09:00 -
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          only problem with doing it out of the red zone is, i can easily see someone just getting out of it slightly just enough, and then doing it | 
      
      
      
          
          Raze galder 
          Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:14:00 -
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          Khortez D wrote:only problem with doing it out of the red zone is, i can easily see someone just getting out of it slightly just enough, and then doing it  
 
  Then add in that once your foot leaves the red zone line u can't go back in or the timer starts. So u can sit at red line and get no points or play the game and get points. Also add that if u redline sit u get no isk or sp at the end of match even if u won that may be a bit harsh though but it would be effective. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:16:00 -
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          this is what i mean:
 
  okay i wanna farm some WP but i can't do it at my spawn.
  well the red line isn't infinite so all i need to do is slightly move out of the red line and do it behind some building. 
  think of it as: instead of doing it at home, you're doing it at your front door | 
      
      
      
          
          crazy space 
          ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:18:00 -
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          beta, CCP allready said they want to stop this | 
      
      
      
          
          crazy space 
          ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:19:00 -
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          VADOL II wrote:Khortez D wrote:id say make it so that repairing vehicles just contributes to your ISK/SP, and not to WP then  Which would screw over the Logi class as a whole, and make even fewer people out there to heal you.   Yeah because logis are always healing tanks.
  CCP is just going to code it to record friendly damage, it'll be fine. | 
      
      
      
          
          Fivetimes Infinity 
          Immobile Infantry
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:35:00 -
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          Khortez D wrote:No WP for repairing vehicles?
  just my thoughts  
  Either this or no WP for repairing anything but damage inflicted by an enemy. But yeah, it's an incredibly simple thing to fix. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cerebral Wolf Jr 
          Immobile Infantry
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 02:46:00 -
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          Block them in with a LAV and watch the tears flow. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khortez D 
          Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 03:02:00 -
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          yeah im playing a game now and just watched my team do it right behind a supply depot the enemy is guarding. in a ambush game, no where close to a redzone | 
      
      
      
          
          ICECREAMKONG 
          WARRIORS 1NC
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        Posted - 2012.10.04 03:23:00 -
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          ST1NK PICKLE wrote:i agree 100%
   
 
  This..... I agree also. | 
      
      
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