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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:

Please share with me where the game is going because I'm not convinced CCP really know.

Whats the big picture ?

Just start out with the bascis such as gameplay.

Fast paced tactical lol shooter? or maybe crazy arcade tribes style? nah its going to be its own boss and be right in the center?

Well which way is it going ? Did they start out with hight strafe speeds etc with every intention of throttling it back to what we have now ?
I think not and I expect it might be one of two reasons.

1. CCP are fed tripe on IRC and in the forums about how hard it is to aim waaa QQ and just cave in to demands ignoring thier own game plan.

2. They couldnt fix hit detection for what ever coding reason and this was the only way to keep the whole show rolling forwards.

I mean how can all the builds befor this one have such a distinctive game style and then we end up with this?

It all makes zero sense to me and just tips me off they just dont have a clue what they are actuly aiming for.

Well thats the basic gameplay side I dotn get please as I said help me out here.

Then maybe we could move onto the gear and skill side of things.

How can we move from hvys with 1400 HP and little scouts runnign about with 200hp and then Bam normalisation of suits? Again its such a massive change that has huge effects on the game. Non of it seems to be following a clear plan at all.

Help me out here because I cant see jack when I look into my crystal ball.

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4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:11:00 - [1] - Quote great job CCP, i know theres issues with the game but every new build seems to get one step closer to a solid game. the only thing thats really just picking at the game is the texture of the buildings up close they seem to be Playstation one textures, but thats all i have to say about that. oh one more issue i have is sprint, sprint should be unlimited but other then that the game is great.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:13:00 - [2] - Quote You must be joking. Gameplay wise is just been heading downhill from patch to patch.
ICECREAMKONG WARRIORS 1NC 53	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:16:00 - [3] - Quote I wish there was a dislike button.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:18:00 - [4] - Quote I can see where the full game is going and yes there are some problems but it's still a beta...
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:36:00 - [5] - Quote Please share with me where the game is going because I'm not convinced CCP really know. Whats the big picture ? Just start out with the bascis such as gameplay. Fast paced tactical lol shooter? or maybe crazy arcade tribes style? nah its going to be its own boss and be right in the center? Well which way is it going ? Did they start out with hight strafe speeds etc with every intention of throttling it back to what we have now ? I think not and I expect it might be one of two reasons. 1. CCP are fed tripe on IRC and in the forums about how hard it is to aim waaa QQ and just cave in to demands ignoring thier own game plan. 2. They couldnt fix hit detection for what ever coding reason and this was the only way to keep the whole show rolling forwards. I mean how can all the builds befor this one have such a distinctive game style and then we end up with this? It all makes zero sense to me and just tips me off they just dont have a clue what they are actuly aiming for. Well thats the basic gameplay side I dotn get please as I said help me out here. Then maybe we could move onto the gear and skill side of things. How can we move from hvys with 1400 HP and little scouts runnign about with 200hp and then Bam normalisation of suits? Again its such a massive change that has huge effects on the game. Non of it seems to be following a clear plan at all. Help me out here because I cant see jack when I look into my crystal ball.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:42:00 - [6] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Please share with me where the game is going because I'm not convinced CCP really know. Whats the big picture ? Just start out with the bascis such as gameplay. Fast paced tactical lol shooter? or maybe crazy arcade tribes style? nah its going to be its own boss and be right in the center? Well which way is it going ? Did they start out with hight strafe speeds etc with every intention of throttling it back to what we have now ? I think not and I expect it might be one of two reasons. 1. CCP are fed tripe on IRC and in the forums about how hard it is to aim waaa QQ and just cave in to demands ignoring thier own game plan. 2. They couldnt fix hit detection for what ever coding reason and this was the only way to keep the whole show rolling forwards. I mean how can all the builds befor this one have such a distinctive game style and then we end up with this? It all makes zero sense to me and just tips me off they just dont have a clue what they are actuly aiming for. Well thats the basic gameplay side I dotn get please as I said help me out here. Then maybe we could move onto the gear and skill side of things. How can we move from hvys with 1400 HP and little scouts runnign about with 200hp and then Bam normalisation of suits? Again its such a massive change that has huge effects on the game. Non of it seems to be following a clear plan at all. Help me out here because I cant see jack when I look into my crystal ball. just because you put strings on a guitar doesn't mean its tuned.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:48:00 - [7] - Quote This is not simple tuning It could be a drum for all I know. You cant tell me you think this is all just minor tweeking come on you know its not? Look I'm not bashing on COD or anything but if its aiming for that kinda play style I would love to know because then I can just move on because well thats just not for me I dont find it fun. I cant tell you how much I loved the game a few builds ago but its got slower and slower to the point its just not the same game anymore.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:51:00 - [8] - Quote so what your saying is the game is broke and can not be repaired?
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:54:00 - [9] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: This is not simple tuning It could be a drum for all I know. You cant tell me you think this is all just minor tweeking come on you know its not? Look I'm not bashing on COD or anything but if its aiming for that kinda play style I would love to know because then I can just move on because well thats just not for me I dont find it fun. I cant tell you how much I loved the game a few builds ago but its got slower and slower to the point its just not the same game anymore. what do you play as then?
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:54:00 - [10] - Quote All this from a strafe speed reduction? Crazy.

Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:56:00 - [11] - Quote Sorry edited b4 you posted. No I'm not saying that I guess I'm saying I dont think dust knows what it is or where its going. This game is so diff gameplay wise now and thats cool with alot of peeps and not with others because we all have our likes and dislikes. Just wish I could see the big plan in it all.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 12:59:00 - [12] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Sorry edited b4 you posted. No I'm not saying that I guess I'm saying I dont think dust knows what it is or where its going. This game is so diff gameplay wise now and thats cool with alot of peeps and not with others because we all have our likes and dislikes. Just wish I could see the big plan in it all. with this build seems to be playing a bit like battlefield but the last build was playing like battlefield but abit faster. thats what i think...
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:03:00 - [13] - Quote Well now I play as a hvy on another char and tbh its going rather well (just not fun tbh) before yes I played as a scout 80% of the time. Look you can say awww QQ I have to use cover/stealth etc now etc etc sure and yes your right. I cant help that I dont like COD style gameplay and if thats where this is heading and is CCP vision thats fine I will just move on because yes thats my problem. Thats kinda my point I guess your getting massive QQ from one side of the playerbase and on the flip side others are lovign the changes. Thats no small thing. One second its one thing the next its totaly polar.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:06:00 - [14] - Quote do you solo play, or play in a corp?
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:09:00 - [15] - Quote About 20k kills solo and 20k kills working with my corp. I have played the hell outa this game and back and over the builds have proto'd every suit and weapon. I really have put the hours in on this beta and have loved evey bit of it untill this build.
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:20:00 - [16] - Quote hurm i just don't like how they tune it. one extreme to another. which is fine if i know there gathering the raw data to find the base line in the middle. If they can find that blade edge and balance on it to where both sides can come to an except able agreement (course there are always the minorities that prefer one extreme)
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:21:00 - [17] - Quote +1 Sha. We've had fast build, slow build fast build and we're on a slow build again. It's no longer the Arena shooter outside of the arena. It's a battlefield clone currently. With no recoil on guns.
olssam 62 What The French 37	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:36:00 - [18] - Quote + 1 sha No more fun to play since this update to the same problems
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:42:00 - [19] - Quote olssam 62 wrote: + 1 sha No more fun to play since this update to the same problems Worst part is, it's all because of ONE change. And with a good hit detection, both sides would be content. It's not like precursor build had speed of light moving people... If you werent able to aim back on precursor, just stop FPS completely.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.03 13:56:00 - [20] - Quote Well its nice to know I'm not alone on this.

GLOO GLOO Algintal Core Gallente Federation 217	Posted - 2012.10.03 14:38:00 - [21] - Quote Yes, it is a fact, slowing strafe wasn't a good idea... A heavy guy told me it didn't make any changes since precursor But now the gap is too small between assault, scout and logi. Well, I still have fun playing this build, it's just another gameplay and we have to deal with it.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.10.03 14:56:00 - [22] - Quote I like the strafe being nerfed. At least, I see less DANCING which is soooo ridiculous in the previous build. You know what's funny, I have to put this music on my ps3 just to realize how ridiculous the Strafe Dancing gameplay from the previous build.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.03 14:59:00 - [23] - Quote The build is alot more stable You can group up more, suffer less bugs and freezing, make your own corp and have a laugh Gameplay slowed down for working hit detection? better than fast gameplay and crap hit detection More skills/mods to test out and switch it up Happy with build so far just got to get used to it
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.03 15:31:00 - [24] - Quote To me though there is a problem with the strafing. For the last 4 builds this game has had strafing, so many players who do play that style came to Dust thinking oh great a game that I like, then this build they change the whole game style and get rid of it. Most players would not mind if from the beginning this game was like it is now, but to change it 4 build later is kinda odd. Again I believe there is a compromise to be made, a middle ground on strafing that both parties can accept.


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