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Lil Libi Dravon
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Posted - 2012.10.03 09:36:00 -
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I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:08:00 -
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With some of the reports (like yours) coming in I honestly begin to wonder if there isn't a bug in the system that's making "anti-grind" kick in prematurely.
Granted the costs of skills have been re-adjusted so they're lower on average and the total awards were thus meant to be numerically lower while being effectively equivalent. Denomination change being 5,000 in Codex = 10,000 last build.
But even with those changes considered I begin to wonder if everything is functioning as intended. |
Lil Libi Dravon
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:21:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:With some of the reports (like yours) coming in I honestly begin to wonder if there isn't a bug in the system that's making "anti-grind" kick in prematurely.
Granted the costs of skills have been re-adjusted so they're lower on average and the total awards were thus meant to be numerically lower while being effectively equivalent. Denomination change being 5,000 in Codex = 10,000 last build.
But even with those changes considered I begin to wonder if everything is functioning as intended.
I think you could be right, the day of the new build I had a really long stint in the game with fellow players, just wanted to get a feel but sitting in the games for near 18 hours. The next day though was about 6 and so far today, some 13 hours after my last game, those SP returns should be back up to normal, They clearly are not. !!
Libi |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:29:00 -
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The anti-grind is weekly instead of daily now. I've heard a lot of complaints from players in the 800K sp arena. To give you some perspective I'm still working on cresting 600K (I'll be doing some grinding on my days off ) . |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:33:00 -
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I didn't think to mention this before but I am further inclined to believe that there is a bug in play because while I've seen a reduction in my SP gain the reduction is more or less in line with the denomination change I mentioned above (I'm getting a little be less than that honestly but it's a new build so a but of a falloff is expected).
Even with the above I'm consistently gaining more than 10k SP per match and usually more like 25k per match (all figures include use of booster, total matches still fall somewhere below 20 this week/build). |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:35:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:I didn't think to mention this before but I am further inclined to believe that there is a bug in play because while I've seen a reduction in my SP gain the reduction is more or less in line with the denomination change I mentioned above (I'm getting a little be less than that honestly but it's a new build so a but of a falloff is expected).
Even with the above I'm consistently gaining more than 10k SP per match and usually more like 25k per match (all figures include use of booster, total matches still fall somewhere below 20 this week/build).
Overall SP calculation for matches was revamped. It's partially done based on WP & partially done based on duration now to help balance overall. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:44:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Cross Atu wrote:I didn't think to mention this before but I am further inclined to believe that there is a bug in play because while I've seen a reduction in my SP gain the reduction is more or less in line with the denomination change I mentioned above (I'm getting a little be less than that honestly but it's a new build so a but of a falloff is expected).
Even with the above I'm consistently gaining more than 10k SP per match and usually more like 25k per match (all figures include use of booster, total matches still fall somewhere below 20 this week/build). Overall SP calculation for matches was revamped. It's partially done based on WP & partially done based on duration now to help balance overall.
So longer matches award more SP per WP (in essence)? If so that could account for the differences I'm seeing in SP gains compared to the lower totals reported by some testers, as my matches thus far have been longer matches. |
Lil Libi Dravon
7
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Posted - 2012.10.03 11:12:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:I didn't think to mention this before but I am further inclined to believe that there is a bug in play because while I've seen a reduction in my SP gain the reduction is more or less in line with the denomination change I mentioned above (I'm getting a little be less than that honestly but it's a new build so a but of a falloff is expected).
Even with the above I'm consistently gaining more than 10k SP per match and usually more like 25k per match (all figures include use of booster, total matches still fall somewhere below 20 this week/build).
Yes, 25K is about what I would get , And i don't believe I've used my quota in one night since the rebuild, thats for sure, When the servers come on again i'll post my SP and WP here.
Libi |
Lil Libi Dravon
7
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:18:00 -
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OK, here's where I'm at
Lifetime SP = 845,276, bearing in mind it starts at 500,000 and WP = 14,081
Earned about 245K SP, nothing really
Libi
Edited, just did skirmish and 8/4 and 750 WP and it's back up to 24K, better
Thanks all for your input. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:21:00 -
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Lil Libi Dravon wrote:OK, here's where I'm at
Lifetime SP = 845,276, bearing in mind it starts at 500,000 and WP = 14,081
Earned about 245K SP, nothing really
Libi
I'll see if it lets me into game (coin toss currently regarding that) and if able I will post back with my info to compare the direct numbers.
EDIT:
Lifetime SP: 697,247 Lifetime WP: 5,009
So those numbers look to be in line, but I have the impression (perhaps inaccurately?) that you've played more total games this build than I have (I've played at most twelve games) |
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D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:38:00 -
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Lil Libi Dravon wrote:I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi
You think you got it bad? I'm going 15-4 or so nearly every game and getting about 200SP total.. WITH BOOSTER |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:57:00 -
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D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:Lil Libi Dravon wrote:I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi You think you got it bad? I'm going 15-4 or so nearly every game and getting about 200SP total.. WITH BOOSTER Whats your current SP though? |
Lil Libi Dravon
7
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:10:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Lil Libi Dravon wrote:OK, here's where I'm at
Lifetime SP = 845,276, bearing in mind it starts at 500,000 and WP = 14,081
Earned about 245K SP, nothing really
Libi I'll see if it lets me into game (coin toss currently regarding that) and if able I will post back with my info to compare the direct numbers. EDIT: Lifetime SP: 697,247 Lifetime WP: 5,009 So those numbers look to be in line, but I have the impression (perhaps inaccurately?) that you've played more total games this build than I have (I've played at most twelve games)
For sure , I have done probable 5 or 6 today. |
V1RONXSS
AL0NE Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:45:00 -
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Hi guys, can somebody pls explain what exactly its means:
" Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime"
How this actualy works cant get it with my engl. thanks. But however sp gain is currently to slow to radically way of fixing rr grind. |
Lil Libi Dravon
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Posted - 2012.10.03 14:10:00 -
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V1RONXSS wrote:Hi guys, can somebody pls explain what exactly its means:
" Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime"
How this actualy works cant get it with my engl. thanks. But however sp gain is currently to slow to radically way of fixing rr grind.
if you play a lot, you will get less and less and less SP towards the end of the week, that would be monday night. Thats my take on it. Lib |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.10.03 14:40:00 -
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Lil Libi Dravon wrote:I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi they obviously don't want people to buy boosters.
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Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.03 22:32:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Lil Libi Dravon wrote:I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi they obviously don't want people to buy boosters. Nonsense. I'm getting boosters for my main & all of my alts so that I can get them all lvled up to the skill cap as fast as I can each week. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.03 23:10:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:Lil Libi Dravon wrote:I know about the diminishing returns in a game and i understand that it's based on WP now, but 9 kills and 4 hacks should earn more SP than 3500 for my first game. :(
2 games later and a skirmish , only went 4/4 and i only got 2200 SP and this is with the booster. !
Its coming up for 11am here and I've only had a few games, what is wrong with this scoring.
Libi they obviously don't want people to buy boosters.
Booster provide SP that's not counted towards the cap so you get 50% extra SP without it effecting your cap. |
Supercakers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.04 02:04:00 -
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Libi[/quote] they obviously don't want people to buy boosters. [/quote]
Right - boosters don't seem like they do a lot. But since they add extra sp that doesn't apply to your weekly cap, someone who doesn't have a booster will get to the cap (say 500k or so) for the week, then it slows down to a trickle. Someone who uses a booster that reaches the cap of 500k, also gets 250k extra sp from their booster. Then it slows down after hitting cap. So basically a booster gives you an extra 1 million sp per month, at 250k bonus per week if you hit the cap every week of the month.
That's a lot, especially over the course of a year. 12 million sp to work with is quite a bit. |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.10.04 02:23:00 -
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have you turned on passive sp? if you have, those 12 hours you're not playing means that you're getting anti-grind get kicked in 12 hours early. I'm getting roughly 20k SP a game, and I have active SP only on. |
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:39:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:have you turned on passive sp? if you have, those 12 hours you're not playing means that you're getting anti-grind get kicked in 12 hours early. I'm getting roughly 20k SP a game, and I have active SP only on.
Wait wahh? Anit-grind includes passive SP generated? I'm not sure how that's even remotely logical, it certainly can't be for the casual players... or any players... who are all getting the same passive increase. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2012.10.04 09:26:00 -
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in a particulaly bad game yesterday morning i got 258 skill points |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:28:00 -
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The sp gate is bugged. It seemed to be gimping my rewards tuesday night. Wednesday night for some reason I was back to earning between 10,000 t0 15000 sp a match weather I was squad leader or not. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.05 14:07:00 -
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I'm currently earning under 4k (with booster) for games where I earn between 675-1000 War Points. This is at about the half way point of the week, also the first two and a half days this week I wasn't able to play more than a handful of games (I'd say 20 or less) due to the timeout bug.
Lifetime SP 1,063,206 |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.05 15:30:00 -
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That's why, the Weekly SP is 500k, The boosted gain is 250k.
Soon as you pass 1.25m SP you're going to be on a massive grind. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:01:00 -
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I'm at 1,1??,000 SP and each game gives me an average of 600 SP + booster. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.06 04:09:00 -
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Do we have an definitive answers on the following?
1. When/how quickly does anti-grind kick in. 2. What is the skill cap (as opposed to the anti-grind) 3. How do Boosters and Passive gain interact with the Cap/anti-grind. 4. What are the approximate WP to SP values at week start, and once anti-grind has kicked into high gear.
Good to keep our variables sorted if at all possible. Anyone up for recording their matches to create a data set once Tuesday rolls around and a new week starts (well Dust week anyway lol)
Cross |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.06 09:09:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Do we have an definitive answers on the following?
1. When/how quickly does anti-grind kick in. 2. What is the skill cap (as opposed to the anti-grind) 3. How do Boosters and Passive gain interact with the Cap/anti-grind. 4. What are the approximate WP to SP values at week start, and once anti-grind has kicked into high gear.
Good to keep our variables sorted if at all possible. Anyone up for recording their matches to create a data set once Tuesday rolls around and a new week starts (well Dust week anyway lol)
Cross
Yes, how about you? |
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