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Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:36:00 -
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put the sp gain back the way it was there is no reason y someone goes 18 and 6 calls 4 orbital strikes and only get 4,000sp for a whole match. i mean how r we going to get anything that cost 1,000,000sp at this rate and i know im not the only one that feels this way either
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GoD-NoVa
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:38:00 -
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You read my mind. i only get 2k sp now this is ridiculous. CCP do you want us to stop playing? |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:40:00 -
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I've gotten 20k+ in a few game so it's not impossible just harder |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:51:00 -
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some reason people want a slow boring game I dont understand |
Sir Tapticc
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:04:00 -
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I hear what you are saying about the 2k per game once you reach cap, but how much sp can you gain before you hit the limit within the week? |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:48:00 -
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Sir Tapticc wrote:I hear what you are saying about the 2k per game once you reach cap, but how much sp can you gain before you hit the limit within the week?
I wonder about this as well.
Other things of interest are;
How to boosters (specifically) interact with this?
How does the cap interact with passive gain?
I've only gotten a few games in since patch, due to that "timeout" bug, but so far my SP gain per match has been 20k+
Honestly when it comes to increasing my skills since CODEX I'm having more trouble getting the ISK to buy the books than I am in getting the SP to upgrade. (Tho I'm sure upgrades will become more difficult as I start bringing more skills to levels 4 & 5)
0.02 ISK
Cross |
sixteen64
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:48:00 -
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Sir Tapticc wrote:I hear what you are saying about the 2k per game once you reach cap, but how much sp can you gain before you hit the limit within the week?
My assault toon started with 350k sp (not sure if all classes start with the same), been getting about 20k a match, untill i hit about 750k sp, and now im only getting about 5k sp a match 
Also, i've only played for about 6 hours, weekly cap? lol maybe if one plays a hour a day only
At 5k sp a match, means i need to play roughly 30 matches to upgrade my gun to lvl 4, or wait a week?
isk is just as bleak also
not cool
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:53:00 -
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bump this because this sp cap is ridiculous. Jesus...I'm earning $7K and itt's only Tuesday!!!!!
What's going to happen on Thursday and Friday at this rate???? |
Serotriptomin3 Novaborn
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:13:00 -
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If playing average means you get 5k sp per game on a tuesday then im out.
It's honestly ridiculous, no its hilarious, I want to meet the person who implemented this to tell them this has been the funniest thing i've found my entire life. |
GoD-NoVa
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:18:00 -
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for some reason it seems i earn less and less sp a game. i was earning around 2k earlier and now im earning 1k, AND IM USING A BOOSTER. ive tried fragging objectives and it seems it does not matter how well i do my sp earn gets lower and lower |
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:23:00 -
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If I understand it correctly there is a WEEKLY anti-grind and a DAILY cap.
Important to keep the two straight, average anti-grind effect over the week is supposedly normalized with the last build but the daily cap prevents farming.
Or at least that's how I heard it described, I haven't been able to test this myself (stupid match timeout bug) |
sixteen64
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:59:00 -
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Regardless of if theres a daily or weekly cap, it's still to small.
**** playing a match for 4k sp when skills soon amount to 150k plus, its beyond ridiculous |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.02 23:21:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I've gotten 20k+ in a few game so it's not impossible just harder
The more you earn thel less you get, i got 50-60k SP my first games and now i'll be lucky if i get 1k Lol |
DarkMaximos
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:09:00 -
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Looks like this sp cap only makes us get a grindfest to get 1 million sp for 1 skill lol |
YoUnGcUz
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:51:00 -
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im getting 500 sp a game now |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:54:00 -
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Posting in a console QQ thread. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.03 01:12:00 -
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Buy skill boosters for your other characters with AUR. Plug them in. Level all of them up. QQ later (as you try out different playing styles & skill associations).
DarkMaximos wrote:Looks like this sp cap only makes us get a grindfest to get 1 million sp for 1 skill lol
Also, don't forget to turn your PASSIVE SP GAIN on one of your characters. It's super important when you're saving up for those proto skill levels. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:35:00 -
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also want to say you get more sp from hacking objectives and following squad orders than running around killing guys. |
sixteen64
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:55:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:also want to say you get more sp from hacking objectives and following squad orders than running around killing guys.
not if you have been playing for 5-6 hours, you still get ripped off with the 1-5k cap no matter what your doing |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:04:00 -
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sixteen64 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:also want to say you get more sp from hacking objectives and following squad orders than running around killing guys. not if you have been playing for 5-6 hours, you still get ripped off with the 1-5k cap no matter what your doing
better to get 5k than 2k right also we knew this was coming the devs said it would take 7 years to get all the skills but the way it was you could get it in say 6 months?
I can't be the only one who noticed that |
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Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:07:00 -
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Bump. SP cap seems low, especially since ppl are apparently getting close within the 2nd day of playing. Having a large playerbase is one key to making this game successful, but a cap this low discourages even the most dedicated players from logging on. |
sixteen64
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:19:00 -
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Quote:
better to get 5k than 2k right also we knew this was coming the devs said it would take 7 years to get all the skills but the way it was you could get it in say 6 months?
I can't be the only one who noticed that
True, 5k is better than 2k  but its still not enough lol
and yeah, i read something about it taking a number of years to get all skills, but i thought that was for eve online.
I find it slightly funny, as in the video i watched for eve, they were making it sound like a selling point.... that the games soooo indepth and has so many skills that it takes so long to lvl up
where as its more a case of the time restrictions they put on learning skills and the cap on sp gain, its not as in depth as they would like people to belive
At the end of the day, there just a bunch of skills that any half decent rpg offers, i can only guess they think people will be in it for the long run and spend more cash as they will be playing the game for longer |
Sir Tapticc
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.10.03 11:50:00 -
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To be honest the SP cap is doing me a favour. I don't need to buy the active SP booster as I know even my limited hours available to play this game will be enough to get near the cap and so I will not be left too far behind other people
Also this is the most social game I have ever played so I am enjoying playing with other people (for a joint cause once corps are fully working) so SP gain is less important than in previous builds |
Mira Adari
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.10.03 11:54:00 -
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Sir Tapticc wrote:To be honest the SP cap is doing me a favour. I don't need to buy the active SP booster as I know even my limited hours available to play this game will be enough to get near the cap and so I will not be left too far behind other people
Also this is the most social game I have ever played so I am enjoying playing with other people (for a joint cause once corps are fully working) so SP gain is less important than in previous builds
Boosters will not make you reach the cap faster. These SP are extra. Only the SP gained before the Boost is applied are counted to the cap. |
Sir Tapticc
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.10.03 11:59:00 -
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Mira Adari wrote:Sir Tapticc wrote:To be honest the SP cap is doing me a favour. I don't need to buy the active SP booster as I know even my limited hours available to play this game will be enough to get near the cap and so I will not be left too far behind other people
Also this is the most social game I have ever played so I am enjoying playing with other people (for a joint cause once corps are fully working) so SP gain is less important than in previous builds Boosters will not make you reach the cap faster. These SP are extra. Only the SP gained before the Boost is applied are counted to the cap.
Thanks for clarifying, might have to use some of the AUR from the merc pack after all hehe |
GarryKE
Omnispace Trading Company
60
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:27:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:bump this because this sp cap is ridiculous. Jesus...I'm earning $7K and itt's only Tuesday!!!!!
What's going to happen on Thursday and Friday at this rate????
I'm dreading this too. 20 SP per round? 
To be fair to CCP something had to be done about the previous system, it was happening so fast that people could have maxed everything very quickly if they had a few weeks non-stop play.
Rather than come on the forum and complain about it though let's just try come up with better ideas.
My idea:
An absolute minimum cap of 3k (excluding booster(s)) per game.
An absolute maximum cap of 25k (excluding booster(s)) per game.
Diminishing returns will last for three days; each day the caps will be lowered by 50% of the prior maximum as follows:
Day One: 3k:25k
Day Two: 1.5k:12.5k
Day Three: .75k:6.25k
But to avoid people hitting the maximum cap on each game conditions must be met: following squad leader orders, taking objectives, defending objectives (this could be added in to the game in the future), you get the idea.
Soft caps: the +Y when you get kills, kill assists, etc. can only reach a 60% value of the cap for the respective day. Only points that can go past the 60% value are from hacks, hack assists, that sort of thing that helps to win, not just killing stuff.
So for day one, a player just ramboing around will get a maximum of 15k because (s)he is not taking part in the battle properly but he can still get a decent amount of SP.
That was an idea I had. I was going to post but I'm not a math guy so didn't want to come across as dumb or get hated by people. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:39:00 -
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it'll take about 2 weeks to get +1 mill SP
I'm fine with this, This character get 500 sp a match and sometimes even worse.
ISK is good.
My other characters don't get play time till this build with a cap each week for each character. |
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