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DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:29:00 - [1] - Quote I think a big problem with precision strikes is that the squad leader gets war points and a kill on his KD/R every time someone dies to a precision strike. Firstly, this means that the more you drop precision strikes, the more often you're going to get them, thanks to the kills going straight back into the pool to call in another. Also, this really tends to inflate peoples KD/Rs as they sit back, calling in strike after strike after strike. Please make precision strikes a purely tactical option. Squad leaders should not receive points, or get the kills, for anyone wasted by a precision strike.
VanguardCommander Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 48	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:51:00 - [2] - Quote faceplam
Gcember Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:55:00 - [3] - Quote VanguardCommander wrote: faceplam Why facepalm? He has a good point, I both agree and disagree. You could distribute WP to all your squad members when you use a precision strike based on how many points you get out from using one. Instead of the squad leader getting all the points.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:55:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I think a big problem with precision strikes is that the squad leader gets war points and a kill on his KD/R every time someone dies to a precision strike. Firstly, this means that the more you drop precision strikes, the more often you're going to get them, thanks to the kills going straight back into the pool to call in another. Also, this really tends to inflate peoples KD/Rs as they sit back, calling in strike after strike after strike. Please make precision strikes a purely tactical option. Squad leaders should not receive points, or get the kills, for anyone wasted by a precision strike. Agreed. As it is now its being used to farm SP.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:57:00 - [5] - Quote VanguardCommander wrote: faceplam Sniff, sniff I smell an SP FARMER!! Get some gun game or lav tank game instead of FARMING!!
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.10.02 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I think a big problem with precision strikes is that the squad leader gets war points and a kill on his KD/R every time someone dies to a precision strike. Firstly, this means that the more you drop precision strikes, the more often you're going to get them, thanks to the kills going straight back into the pool to call in another. Also, this really tends to inflate peoples KD/Rs as they sit back, calling in strike after strike after strike. Please make precision strikes a purely tactical option. Squad leaders should not receive points, or get the kills, for anyone wasted by a precision strike. Agreed. As it is now its being used to farm SP. I just lmao farm sp
Osiris Greywolf Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 80	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:12:00 - [7] - Quote The only problem I have is the regularity of them, I was in a game where one ambush game where one man called in about eighteen to twenty percision strikes, no joke. Other than that, I tought that this game was meant to have you know, tactical gameplay, I think I smell a few people who can't get any kills with strikes here, (not you, OP, btw) the main problem I see on the forums with regards to balancing issues is people over exaggerate the issue, first with HMGs, Then Dropships, then tanks, now were down to percision strikes. What's going to be next, overpowered kittens? (Not censor, btw) The only problem with percision strikes is the rate of call in. Nothing More, nothing else. How do you fix that, I'd suggest a cooldown time, with WP cost to calling it in, ie, squad needs X value, amount of warpoints, and a Y value amount of time to call it in, I think that would balence it out a fair bit. As for squad leads getting points unfairly, I say, why shouldn't the squad lead be rewarded for calling in a good strike where and when it's needed? Maybe if you resisted the temptation to call in shiny space rods straight away and saved them for when you need them, you'd get more out of them.
Supercakers Algintal Core Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote The strikes are truly idiotic now. I just literally got hit by two strikes back to back, BY THE SAME PERSON!!!! Within less than 30 seconds of each other.. Something is off here.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:30:00 - [9] - Quote Osiris Greywolf wrote: Maybe if you resisted the temptation to call in shiny space rods straight away and saved them for when you need them, you'd get more out of them. I call in excellent strikes when I get them, please don't mistake this as me not being able to work them. As someone who earns a ton of points in a halfway descent match thanks to chain strikes, I would like this aspect of them removed. It takes to no skill to call in a strike. See a blob of red? FIRE!!! +50 +50 +50 +50 +50 Orbital Support Ready.. +50 +50 ......
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 126	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:32:00 - [10] - Quote People farming the things are the problem but good squad leaders can get a few in by setting objectives for teammates which takes them out of the battle to issue orders and call in the strikes why take the bonus from them, i understand wanting the sp farmers tho

Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:53:00 - [11] - Quote + 1 op
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.10.02 20:55:00 - [12] - Quote The ammount of war points is really low to get them, farming is so funny though. I had many lolz abusing beta
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 209	Posted - 2012.10.02 22:27:00 - [13] - Quote Eh, I'm not sure i agree on this. I do agree the Orbitals are too easy to attain. The WP cost of them should be higher. I also think the damage radius should be decreased slightly or the warning area at least increased to match the damage area. Currently you can escape the warning area if you are on the outskirts yet still die from the damage radius. However, i don't think a good leader should be handicapped for doing well with his Orbital management. The reason you get multiple raining down is because a smart leader will hold onto his Orbitals until the perfect moment and possibly drop multiple in succession. Nothing wrong with that. Additionally, a leader can only place an orbital well with good communication and scouting from his squadmates. No visual on the enemy, no idea where to place them. There are times when i am leader that i choose to hang back and manage the battle instead of being on the frontline. As leader, if i am in the trenches and die, my order gets cleared out and my guys do not get bonuses until i respawn and place a new order. Therefore depending on the battle i may get no captures, kills or revives and focus solely on leading. The points and kills i get from Orbitals are well deserved. Other times i may be leader and at the frontlines in which case my guys need to protect me to kep the order active and protect me when i hide under a rock to place an orbital. All around, it encourages teamwork and smart leadership. I do agree they are too frequent and being abused for WP/SP farming. I'm not sure how to handle that other than the points i suggested earlier to give the targets a fighting chance. Tweaks need to be made, yes, but withholding the kills and points altogether is not the answer in my opinion.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.10.02 22:34:00 - [14] - Quote i think the WP need be a little higher, seem this is going to take a bit of fine tuning, tbh, however the spread and effect is spot on, just need slow down the rate of them a little or switch to isk amount rather WP value to make each strike cost a bit. like a 1mill or somthing to people are disinclined to spam them
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2012.10.02 22:36:00 - [15] - Quote you get them for doing teamwork, so in turn i like the idea of distributing the wp within the squad.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.10.02 22:40:00 - [16] - Quote +1, I agree. This should really be in the Feedback section. I don't understand why its so hard for people to post in the correct section.


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