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Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:56:00 -
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I don't know if i'm just frustrated because mouse sensitivity is completely messed up right now, or am I the only one who thinks a charged sniper rifle should one shot scouts and assault, especially at close range... I mean I can understand not one shottig assaults but i'm tired of hitting another scout with a fully charged shot and not killing them.
With that gun you don't get a chance at a second shot... takes WAY to long to charge and by the time it is they have run away or they spotted you and bull rushed your position.
I'm also tired of taken people down to 10% then having someone kill them 15 seconds later and I get no assist credit. |

Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:59:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I don't know if i'm just frustrated because mouse sensitivity is completely messed up right now, or am I the only one who thinks a charged sniper rifle should one shot scouts and assault, especially at close range... I mean I can understand not one shottig assaults but i'm tired of hitting another scout with a fully charged shot and not killing them.
With that gun you don't get a chance at a second shot... takes WAY to long to charge and by the time it is they have run away or they spotted you and bull rushed your position.
I'm also tired of taken people down to 10% then having someone kill them 15 seconds later and I get no assist credit.
The sniper riffles seem ok to me. They do plenty of damage.
Your last complaint however, is perfectly valid. I've taken someone down a lot, and they get killed shortly after, with me getting no assist points. |

crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:01:00 -
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do you have sensitivity set to 100? |

Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:03:00 -
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I think my qqin will subside once my mouse sensitivity is fixed, and once i get a new drop suit with adequit CPU and PG to support a better rifle that allows me to shoot someone a second time before they run away or take cover. |

843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:03:00 -
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Use an assault suit with two militia light weapon damage mods in the high slots and you'll be abile to OHK everyone but a heavy. |

Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
50
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:03:00 -
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crazy space wrote:do you have sensitivity set to 100?
right now the mouse sensitivity adjuster doesn't work. Mouse sensitivity is the same on 0 as it is on 100. |

Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:11:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Use an assault suit with two militia light weapon damage mods in the high slots and you'll be abile to OHK everyone but a heavy.
Not necessarily. Before that was true, but this build the +dmg from Weaponry is reduced to 2%, and the +dmg from Sniper Rifle Operation was swapped for the reduced sway from Sniper Rifle Proficiency, while also reducing the bonus damage from 5% to 3%. So, at max, sniper rifles will be doing 15% less damage than they previously did, which is enough to take them out of the one-shot-kill range for many people wearing assault suits.
Overall, though, an excellent change. Last build I was a strong advocate for a sniper rifle nerfing. While I still think they could have done more, we'll see how it goes this build anyway. With hopefully few if any non-scout, non-headshot people being instantly killed, it could be a vast improvement with just the reduced damage. |

GarryKE
Omnispace Trading Company
60
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:28:00 -
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No weapon should be able to one shot. At the most take away full shield then health IMO. |

Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:43:00 -
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GarryKE wrote:No weapon should be able to one shot. At the most take away full shield then health IMO.
I'm okay with headshots being one-hit-kill, because they're fairly tough to get unless the target is near you and at close range, and if your first shot misses, well, the target has heard it and will no doubt run for cover. So it's a gamble to go for. Bodyshots, I never want those to be one-hit-kill, though. And currently it's fairly rare for them to happen, which is good, and as people gear up it'll be even less common. |

Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
362
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Posted - 2012.10.02 18:36:00 -
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I enjoyed sniping and its always been one of my favorite things to do in any game that has them, but I really thought they were a bit OP before. One sniper finding some really great spot and getting 30 kills and no deaths is a little silly. I think where they are now is actually pretty good. Looking at it from a team standpoint (guess what folks this is a team game, your own personal stats are secondary to the protection of the contract issuer's needs) the role of the sniper is going to be taking big chunks out of incoming attackers before they get there either deterring the attack or making them easier for the close-range players to take them out, or taking out other snipers to protect your own forces. As long as snipers can OHK other snipers in scout suits but not always OHK an assault trooper unless it is a very accurate shot I think it is exactly where it needs to be. |
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crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:03:00 -
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GarryKE wrote:No weapon should be able to one shot. At the most take away full shield then health IMO. But we will have a protoCharge sniper, that will one shot most targets.
Also Advanced logi with 3 damage mods and charge |

Athene Alland
Red Fox Brigade
108
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:04:00 -
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I find the sniper rifles in the current build... unsatisfactory.
with the damage drop coupled with less sway it makes it easier to hit, but need double or triple shots to kill...
this has removed the enjoyment from sniping,...
hits should take (player) skill, but when you do hit it should be death.
of all weapons the sniper rifle should 1 shot kill (at least scouts) and if players are getting too many kills with them, then make them harder to use, snipers are the elite in a military force not the recruits...
Sniper rifles are NOT Noob weapons,...
they should be only be deadly on the hands of a talented marksman...
- 'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio' - |

Vincam Velmoriar
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:45:00 -
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Athene Alland wrote:I find the sniper rifles in the current build... unsatisfactory.
with the damage drop coupled with less sway it makes it easier to hit, but need double or triple shots to kill...
this has removed the enjoyment from sniping,...
hits should take (player) skill, but when you do hit it should be death.
of all weapons the sniper rifle should 1 shot kill (at least scouts) and if players are getting too many kills with them, then make them harder to use, snipers are the elite in a military force not the recruits...
Sniper rifles are NOT Noob weapons,...
they should be only be deadly on the hands of a talented marksman...
- 'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio' -
^ This |

Otosan Ookami
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:04:00 -
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Back to basics.
it's not impossible to follow up with the charge snipe for now, but you sure feel the DPS drop at the start. Quite a bit weaker now, so folks had better really want that shot they take.
I do find it a bit disquieting at times that the Sniper rifle seems better suited for Non-scoutsuit use. We'll see how our Sneakiness compensates for the fitting variations.
I'm more annoyed with watching gunners on Onikuma stuttering along like a flip-book cartoon. |

D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:10:00 -
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Athene Alland wrote:I find the sniper rifles in the current build... unsatisfactory.
with the damage drop coupled with less sway it makes it easier to hit, but need double or triple shots to kill...
this has removed the enjoyment from sniping,...
hits should take (player) skill, but when you do hit it should be death.
of all weapons the sniper rifle should 1 shot kill (at least scouts) and if players are getting too many kills with them, then make them harder to use, snipers are the elite in a military force not the recruits...
Sniper rifles are NOT Noob weapons,...
they should be only be deadly on the hands of a talented marksman...
- 'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio' -
Well said soldier. Hooraaa! |

DavidMasters
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:25:00 -
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Wrong!!!!!! Sniper rifles are WAY OP. |

crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:30:00 -
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guys level up the skills, get the prototype charge ones when they come out. Just wait a bit. |

Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.05 13:10:00 -
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Seriously, sniper rifles arent under-powered at all 
I tend to suck at using snipers and i find them pretty easy to use in this build. |
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