DUST Search - Hit Detection, Really?

Aighun wrote:

Kai Sakuemi wrote:

Trevor K wrote:

What I don't get is emptying a clip into someone, they take no damage and turn around and shoot you a few times and you die. WTF!!! Even worse, they are using the same type of weapon, I make it a point to check what they kill me with. WTF, again!!!

Yeah, someone using the Starter Fits dropping me in 1-1.5 seconds with a militia assault rifle, while my PAID FOR assault rifle barely makes the kill in twice that time.

Also, it's terrible with shotguns. I just played a game with a shotgun set-up and there was a guy who had just spawned and so was checking his surroundings. I pounced on him and unloaded 7 shells into him, and while they weren't all direct hits, all 7 at least caught him, but his shields were still 2/3 full. Then he killed me, and I saw he was using a militia rifle, so he obviously wasn't using an expensive fitting.

We have crossed a build threshold between the start of this thread and now. Hit detection seems much improved.

But there are ways to boost the damage you can do with any weapon, even the starter weapons.

Some players will invest sp in skills like weaponry level 5, and fit items to their dropsuit that can also increase damage.

Weapon type does not tell the whole story.

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Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:05:00 - [1] - Quote Apparently my Merc's aim is so terrible I can't hit the ground with a nanohive in some cases. Can we add a short bus variant LAV for moving him around the field?
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:10:00 - [2] - Quote I like the way I miss scouts who are still with my shotgun.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:17:00 - [3] - Quote I find using a single shot assault rifle works wonders, i rarely miss.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 134	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:25:00 - [4] - Quote fenrir storm wrote: I like the way I miss scouts who are still with my shotgun. Yeah great innit, I feel you, HD is a joke, Works about 50% of the time.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:34:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe it's a prototype nanohive that has more HP so that it can take that sort of abuse...?
Valmar Shadereaver 3	Posted - 2012.09.25 21:46:00 - [6] - Quote i just love it when my forge fire's and slam's into the target and the target doesent even move an inch and just fly's (drive's) like a fly hit it . . . :p prety funy considering i emptyd a full clip and 1 only hits oO
Typo Name 78	Posted - 2012.09.26 01:44:00 - [7] - Quote I'll give you the same advice I give other people when I see them trying to shoot a nanohive- shoot at the hive, not around it.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.09.26 01:46:00 - [8] - Quote Typo Name wrote: I'll give you the same advice I give other people when I see them trying to shoot a nanohive- shoot at the hive, not around it. I would like to subscribe to your news letter.
TEB0W 1	Posted - 2012.09.26 01:47:00 - [9] - Quote use an accelerated a-1 turret or gtfo
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.26 01:51:00 - [10] - Quote fenrir storm wrote: I like the way I miss scouts who are still with my shotgun. That's not a scout problem, persay, it's a shotgun problem. This happens even with heavies just sitting there, and it's a problem that's been around since at least the second build. We're getting new hit detection in the next build, very much looking forward to all the improvements and bug reports.

Fiasco Llana Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 251	Posted - 2012.09.26 02:16:00 - [11] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Apparently my Merc's aim is so terrible I can't hit the ground with a nanohive in some cases. Can we add a short bus variant LAV for moving him around the field? I've shot snipers (I'm mainly a counter-sniper.) 5 times with the charge rifle and hae it not do any damage, even when they are standing still. I'll see it hit their shield and no damage. :l
TEB0W 1	Posted - 2012.09.26 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote Loss Tovas wrote: Typo Name wrote: I'll give you the same advice I give other people when I see them trying to shoot a nanohive- shoot at the hive, not around it. I would like to subscribe to your news letter. i can give you a link to his facebook page should have the info you seek, dont thank me all at once
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.09.26 02:46:00 - [13] - Quote yes... hit detection... lag... i blame lag mostly but hit detection is an issue. i say lag mainly cause people will be standing still and not taking damage. i would expect hit detection to work on someone standing still...
drake sadani Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2012.09.26 03:16:00 - [14] - Quote am i the only one who actually now wants a short bus apc painted bright yellow . maybe set it up without weapons and just have it work like a supply depot
Trevor K Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.10.04 03:04:00 - [15] - Quote What I don't get is emptying a clip into someone, they take no damage and turn around and shoot you a few times and you die. WTF!!! Even worse, they are using the same type of weapon, I make it a point to check what they kill me with. WTF, again!!!
Kai Sakuemi Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 23	Posted - 2012.10.04 03:13:00 - [16] - Quote Trevor K wrote: What I don't get is emptying a clip into someone, they take no damage and turn around and shoot you a few times and you die. WTF!!! Even worse, they are using the same type of weapon, I make it a point to check what they kill me with. WTF, again!!! Yeah, someone using the Starter Fits dropping me in 1-1.5 seconds with a militia assault rifle, while my PAID FOR assault rifle barely makes the kill in twice that time. Also, it's terrible with shotguns. I just played a game with a shotgun set-up and there was a guy who had just spawned and so was checking his surroundings. I pounced on him and unloaded 7 shells into him, and while they weren't all direct hits, all 7 at least caught him, but his shields were still 2/3 full. Then he killed me, and I saw he was using a militia rifle, so he obviously wasn't using an expensive fitting.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.10.04 04:01:00 - [17] - Quote Kai Sakuemi wrote: Trevor K wrote: What I don't get is emptying a clip into someone, they take no damage and turn around and shoot you a few times and you die. WTF!!! Even worse, they are using the same type of weapon, I make it a point to check what they kill me with. WTF, again!!! Yeah, someone using the Starter Fits dropping me in 1-1.5 seconds with a militia assault rifle, while my PAID FOR assault rifle barely makes the kill in twice that time. Also, it's terrible with shotguns. I just played a game with a shotgun set-up and there was a guy who had just spawned and so was checking his surroundings. I pounced on him and unloaded 7 shells into him, and while they weren't all direct hits, all 7 at least caught him, but his shields were still 2/3 full. Then he killed me, and I saw he was using a militia rifle, so he obviously wasn't using an expensive fitting. We have crossed a build threshold between the start of this thread and now. Hit detection seems much improved. But there are ways to boost the damage you can do with any weapon, even the starter weapons. Some players will invest sp in skills like weaponry level 5, and fit items to their dropsuit that can also increase damage. Weapon type does not tell the whole story.
VirtualxBucaneer ROGUE SPADES 44	Posted - 2012.10.04 04:03:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Maybe it's a prototype nanohive that has more HP so that it can take that sort of abuse...? What this guy said.
Trevor K Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:32:00 - [19] - Quote Aighun wrote: Kai Sakuemi wrote: Trevor K wrote: What I don't get is emptying a clip into someone, they take no damage and turn around and shoot you a few times and you die. WTF!!! Even worse, they are using the same type of weapon, I make it a point to check what they kill me with. WTF, again!!! Yeah, someone using the Starter Fits dropping me in 1-1.5 seconds with a militia assault rifle, while my PAID FOR assault rifle barely makes the kill in twice that time. Also, it's terrible with shotguns. I just played a game with a shotgun set-up and there was a guy who had just spawned and so was checking his surroundings. I pounced on him and unloaded 7 shells into him, and while they weren't all direct hits, all 7 at least caught him, but his shields were still 2/3 full. Then he killed me, and I saw he was using a militia rifle, so he obviously wasn't using an expensive fitting. We have crossed a build threshold between the start of this thread and now. Hit detection seems much improved. But there are ways to boost the damage you can do with any weapon, even the starter weapons. Some players will invest sp in skills like weaponry level 5, and fit items to their dropsuit that can also increase damage. Weapon type does not tell the whole story. Trust me, I know. However, I have Weaponry at Lvl 5 and AR Operation at Lvl 3. I also use Light Weapon Damage mods. Even with my Breach AR against a Militia AR same thing happens. Regardless, even without any mods or skill boosts, 60 rounds at 30 HP damage per round = 1,800 HP in damage. No drop suit has that amount of HP.


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