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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.25 05:52:00 -
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k thanks bye |

KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.09.25 07:51:00 -
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It's true that breach AR is not a viable weapon now after the (much needed) nerf.
But increasing the ROF would only make similar to other rifles. So, instead of that, let's find some different way to make it better. - Give it a bit more punch per shot? - Make it truly accurate but without the zoom capability of tac rifle? |

Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:54:00 -
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RoF is ok... but now this AR is simply terrible with accuracy. (med to long)
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.25 11:18:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:RoF is ok... but now this AR is simply terrible with accuracy. (med to long)
You seem to kill me all the time no matter what you use mate  |

Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.09.25 12:59:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Jack Boost wrote:RoF is ok... but now this AR is simply terrible with accuracy. (med to long)
You seem to kill me all the time no matter what you use mate 
Sry... I'm raging around map... I'm almost AR user, only when low on ammo I use SMG. No AUR items, only long way to master AR. Next time, join my team ;) |

Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:09:00 -
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A small damage tweak would be better and would round it out.
This guns suppose to be bad at mid to long range.
Think of the standard and breach as urban combat rifles and tac and burst as ranged rifles
Personally I think the burst could also use a upward damge tweak |

fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:41:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Jack Boost wrote:RoF is ok... but now this AR is simply terrible with accuracy. (med to long)
You seem to kill me all the time no matter what you use mate  Sry... I'm raging around map... I'm almost AR user, only when low on ammo I use SMG. No AUR items, only long way to master AR. Next time, join my team ;)
Lol will do was against you ,sha clone and tony calif last night , needles to say it wasn't a long game and we got hammered , one of the quickest loses I have experianced yet  |

Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:51:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:k thanks bye Holy ****, man, where have you been all this time? I haven't seen you post a forum thread in weeks. |

Evane Sa'edi
Celtic Anarchy
62
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:27:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:A small damage tweak would be better and would round it out.
This guns suppose to be bad at mid to long range.
Think of the standard and breach as urban combat rifles and tac and burst as ranged rifles
Personally I think the burst could also use a upward damge tweak
Main line assault rifles usually do LESS damage than the equivalent Squad Support Weapon due to the same type of ammo being used with a minor variation in its power and RoF. Therefore an assault rifle should have a lower damage profile than the HMG. |

Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:30:00 -
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Evane Sa'edi wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:A small damage tweak would be better and would round it out.
This guns suppose to be bad at mid to long range.
Think of the standard and breach as urban combat rifles and tac and burst as ranged rifles
Personally I think the burst could also use a upward damge tweak Main line assault rifles usually do LESS damage than the equivalent Squad Support Weapon due to the same type of ammo being used with a minor variation in its power and RoF. Therefore an assault rifle should have a lower damage profile than the HMG.
When did I even mention hmg? So long as the breach doesn't have more damage than the tac it good |
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Ranger SnakeBlood
38
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:55:00 -
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Ive been trying the breach quite abit i think its actually quite well balenced as it is it has a good advantage over standard upclose but once you are required to aim down the sights it starts showing weakness badly, with that opinion i think its balenced against other ARs and any buff to damage or rof will make it far better at cqc then bang were back to NERF IT treads,
I think in general the ARs we have now have pathetic effective range which need a buff, also while on topic of ARs the semi auto one needs to have a better shot per shot damage while bringing the potential rof right down to make it a bit like a battle rifle |

Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.09.26 01:00:00 -
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breach weapons are SUPPOSED to be low RoF, high damage. Ever try using a breach scrambler pistol? It has insanely low RoF, but the damage makes it into a mini-sniper. |

The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.09.26 01:28:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:It's true that breach AR is not a viable weapon now after the (much needed) nerf.
But increasing the ROF would only make similar to other rifles. So, instead of that, let's find some different way to make it better. - Give it a bit more punch per shot? - Make it truly accurate but without the zoom capability of tac rifle?
What.....Then why did you....
So the "nerf" was "much needed" but now it needs an increase in damage?
....My head, it hurts. |

Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.26 01:51:00 -
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1 or 2 point tweak would do CCP if your listining. |

xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.09.26 04:52:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:k thanks bye Holy ****, man, where have you been all this time? I haven't seen you post a forum thread in weeks.
Obviously not on DUST or the forums. This build isn't worth replacing my PS3 over. Breach AR's either need a slight increase in RoF or an increase in damage. |

Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.09.26 07:04:00 -
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So... DPS .. |

Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:05:00 -
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A very small tweak to bring damage up is sufficient |

KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:44:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:It's true that breach AR is not a viable weapon now after the (much needed) nerf.
But increasing the ROF would only make similar to other rifles. So, instead of that, let's find some different way to make it better. - Give it a bit more punch per shot? - Make it truly accurate but without the zoom capability of tac rifle? What.....Then why did you.... So the "nerf" was "much needed" but now it needs an increase in damage? ....My head, it hurts.
Sorry to be unclear: In my opinion the breach nerf was needed as it was seriously the killing tool of choice. But the nerf was way way overdone.
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:12:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:It's true that breach AR is not a viable weapon now after the (much needed) nerf.
But increasing the ROF would only make similar to other rifles. So, instead of that, let's find some different way to make it better. - Give it a bit more punch per shot? - Make it truly accurate but without the zoom capability of tac rifle? What.....Then why did you.... So the "nerf" was "much needed" but now it needs an increase in damage? ....My head, it hurts. Sorry to be unclear: In my opinion the breach nerf was needed as it was seriously the killing tool of choice. But the nerf was way way overdone.
I saw plenty of douvulles and standard AR's in prior builds. |

Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:21:00 -
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The duvolle has always been better. The creadron was just popular in past builds because it was more consistent with garbage hit detection. |
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