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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:34:00 -
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Saiibot wrote:I think ol Jack meant something along the lines that DUST 514 will exit closed beta and will be OPEN TO ALL! That would make the most sense.
And that's nice, but I would like to hear what CCP thinks he meant ;-))
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Regis Mark V
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:44:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:Saiibot wrote:I think ol Jack meant something along the lines that DUST 514 will exit closed beta and will be OPEN TO ALL! That would make the most sense. And that's nice, but I would like to hear what CCP thinks he meant ;-))
So would I! I doubt the release will stretch into next year. We are getting the builds faster now than when the beta first launched. I also doubt it will launch in December it'll be November at most but not hard to believe in October either. Whats to stop it from launching in October and they treat it like EVE online? |

Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:44:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:^^^ That tweet is dated June 5. Later is NOW.
EDIT And "later this year" doesn't mean "end of the year." Not if you believe words have been created for a reason. maybe you missed the ?! in my statement unless ? and ! means something else to you |

Regis Mark V
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:46:00 -
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Saiibot wrote:I think ol Jack meant something along the lines that DUST 514 will exit closed beta and will be OPEN TO ALL! That would make the most sense.
Are you talking about the same Jack Trenton who says he's all about gamers and sonys about gamers but at E3 we get a story book? |

Villore Isu
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:50:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:CCP had 3+ years to do Dust, more time than any FPS nowadays which take 18-24 months max to be developed, so a October release date is not out of this world.
What is out of this world is that after so much time Dust 514 is so poor. If by develop you mean re-skin the same old game for the 7th time, then yes, hell even a year is even a realistic turn around.
But if by develop you actually mean create a new game from scratch, which does stuff that has never been done before. Then no 18-24 months is not to be expected, in fact if CCP did make Dust that quickly, odds are it would suck. |

Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:54:00 -
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Villore Isu wrote: If by develop you mean re-skin the same old game for the 7th time, then yes, hell even a year is even a realistic turn around.
But if by develop you actually mean create a new game from scratch, which does stuff that has never been done before. Then no 18-24 months is not to be expected, in fact if CCP did make Dust that quickly, odds are it would suck.
CCP took a lot of time and Dust 514 s***...A LOT. |

Coyskurk
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:58:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Villore Isu wrote: If by develop you mean re-skin the same old game for the 7th time, then yes, hell even a year is even a realistic turn around.
But if by develop you actually mean create a new game from scratch, which does stuff that has never been done before. Then no 18-24 months is not to be expected, in fact if CCP did make Dust that quickly, odds are it would suck.
CCP took a lot of time and Dust 514 s***...A LOT. You probably fail to understand that most of that time was actually getting the damn thing able to connect with EVE and still be stable. Which makes sense because connecting two different games has NEVER been done before... Think of it as fighting a new virus that's been taking over people. It's going to take a while before you find a cure |

Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:03:00 -
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^^^ And for what? Gameplay is poor and the gamepaly is what makes games worth playing for me. EVE stuff without a solid gameplay to sustain it is worth nothing. |

Coyskurk
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
39
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:05:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:^^^ And for what? Gameplay is poor and the gamepaly is what makes games worth playing fro me.
EVE stuff without a solid gameplay to sustain it is worth nothing.
Gameplay only started getting into major testing a few months ago. We're still only testing the mechanics. |

Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:24:00 -
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Gameplay testing started winter 2011 internally. I entered the beta in June and what I played was the Fanfest map with Fanfest gameplay & mechanics and now 6 months later FromFanfest the wrong ideas din't go away and are actually used to build Dust 514. |
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Coyskurk
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
39
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:33:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Gameplay testing started winter 2011 internally. I entered the beta in June and what I played was the Fanfest map with Fanfest gameplay & mechanics and now 6 months later FromFanfest the wrong ideas din't go away and are actually used to build Dust 514.
That it did but there were many other things being focused on than there are now. A few months ago quite a few of those things were worked on and are now not an issue. As I said we only started getting into "major" gameplay testing a few months ago. The next build even has some fixes for it such as vehicles and how they feel when in use. |

Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:44:00 -
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For the record.
Still I will believe it when I play it. CCP promised improvements for months and they never actually arrived. |

Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:46:00 -
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The marketing guys say its ready. |

Coyskurk
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:50:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:For the record.Still I will believe it when I play it. CCP promised improvements for months and they never actually arrived.
But did they say when those improvements were to be made? I honestly think that if CCP promises something then that promise will be fulfilled.
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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.09.24 15:47:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Templar Two wrote:CCP won't answer us. If they do and say Dust is going to be released in October IN THIS STATE I foresee a massive "abandon ship". Better keep us ignorant and keep us here than have us aware and leaving.
+1
Amazing that a company would go silent about such big news. One way or another, they (CCP) should respond with a confirmation or a denial or, heck, even an explanation as to what Jack said.
I mean this was not some off-the-cuff comment made on the IRC. This was a proper interview conducted by a respected news source with the head of SCEA.
I don't think it is too much to ask CCP if his comments were true or false. Only CCP can answer this sufficiently and I hope y'all will help me bump this thread until we hear from them. |

Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:14:00 -
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I have to admit, ccp being mum on information right know is a little worrisome. There is obviously something brewing. when he ceo makes that statement, there has to be something there. I just hope they are not completely scattered and therefore are avoiding clearing up our speculations. I am sure they have noticed. |

Kovinis Sparagas
Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends
58
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:17:00 -
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Why so hard to believe? Open beta build goes at the end of this month. And launch at the end of october? |

Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:31:00 -
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Kovinis Sparagas wrote:Why so hard to believe? Open beta build goes at the end of this month. And launch at the end of october? Not that its hard to believe, its that none of the info has come from CCP. The conversation is about that fact. |

Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:39:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:SoLJae wrote:Saiibot wrote:I think ol Jack meant something along the lines that DUST 514 will exit closed beta and will be OPEN TO ALL! That would make the most sense. And that's nice, but I would like to hear what CCP thinks he meant ;-)) So would I! I doubt the release will stretch into next year. We are getting the builds faster now than when the beta first launched. I also doubt it will launch in December it'll be November at most but not hard to believe in October either. Whats to stop it from launching in October and they treat it like EVE online? The fact that its not on pc |

fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:44:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:^^^ And for what? Gameplay is poor and the gamepaly is what makes games worth playing for me. EVE stuff without a solid gameplay to sustain it is worth nothing.
A re you reading my mind ? or are we just on the same level  |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:47:00 -
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Lol I think I'm gona just ignore all this cos Ceo's nevar know wtf is going on most of the time. |

Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:48:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Lol I think I'm gona just ignore all this cos Ceo's nevar know wtf is going on most of the time.
Yeah I'm going to wait until it's OFFICIALLY announced before I put anymore thought into it  |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:50:00 -
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They obviously can't release the game without being sure that we won't have so many lags and freeze after a extended maintenance as today !!!!
One thing is sure : when Sony CEO says "launch next month", he's not concern about next build, he's concern about the final release...
So 3 options :
- CEO was drunk...
- CCP is confident about the next build, has NO DOUBT that it's gonna work after 1 test's month, and launch will be end of October or first week on November...
- SONY put CCP under pressure... And that's the bad option for a good F2P marketing (opinion)
Well, EVE hasn't been build in 1 day (and to compare with another F2P, neither DCUO), so wait and see !!!
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DeeJay Two
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:53:00 -
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GLOO GLOO wrote: - CCP is confident about the next build, has NO DOUBT that it's gonna work after 1 test's month, and launch will be end of October or first week on November...
Sorry guys, EVE side is not yet ready, jut go read the Buckingham thread on EVE forums, like https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151667 or https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=152900
No way a final release is in the next month, we would wreck TQ EDIT:
Also read on a public dev blog describing what will be happening to EVE/Dust in the near time http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73382 |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:04:00 -
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So CEO was drunk, end of the story !!! |

ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
58
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:07:00 -
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People need to relax. CCP has not confirmed it |

DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:52:00 -
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hopefully the game is released at the beginning of november.... |

Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:57:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:This is all I'm asking and I'm not really interested in speculation from my fellow forum posters--sorry guys, I love y'all.
Just a simple confirmation or refutation of what master Jack said would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Direct questions lead to direct responses but this then leads to the conumdrum of do we obey the do not share info or do we get banned for shareing said info.
Sorry. I rather keep playing instead of being a one second forum hero. Sorry. 
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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.09.24 18:34:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:People need to relax. CCP has not confirmed it
Nor, have they denied the information given out by such a bigwig at SONY. So, I continue to request that CCP confirm or deny the information released by SONY about DUST 514 "coming out" next month.
What did Jack mean, CCP?
Surely y'all can take a second and explain it to us loyal Beta testers. You know, the ones suffering through invalid fits and hard freezes.
Show us that we mean something and tell us what's up with Jack's comment.
Thanks in advance. |

Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.24 18:37:00 -
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The problem with "launch" is it removes the reset button. If an entire mechanic needs fixed, or there is a major imbalance in resource gains, or the entire skill tree/item tiers needs reworked, they somehow have to do that without pissing people off. That inertia scares me since I don't think it is close to a point where it can handle that.
Perhaps I am wrong and they are just building the game and not relying on our testing any more sans network optimizations they are toying with server side. Thus what we see is ancient compared to what they are working with. If so they have done a good job of fooling me. Time shall tell. |
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