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Lendoody
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:41:00 -
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How will gas planets and the likes factor into dust 514..
considering on a real gas planet it has no real "ground" how will these factor into dust? Will they be air combat only maps? or will they simply be excluded from the game? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:47:00 -
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Well, the structures on Gas planets are basically just floating platforms with buildings on them. Think like Cloud City from Star Wars, I imagine we'd be fighting on something like that. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:48:00 -
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Lendoody wrote:How will gas planets and the likes factor into dust 514..
considering on a real gas planet it has no real "ground" how will these factor into dust? Will they be air combat only maps? or will they simply be excluded from the game?
I don't know how gas planets factor into the planetary resource game on EVE or how the EVE lore fits with them, but I could see fighting for control of stationary floating resource platforms or some such. Might be interesting to see how that would affect the combat resource makeup, e.g., not much room for tanks to move but aerial vehicles have plenty of space to sweep back and forth. |
Lendoody
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:51:00 -
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Makes sense, i was hoping for a three dimensional map( Think a large cube ) where air only battles would take places..
fighters could launch from a mcc type ship, but the floating structures makes more sense..
thanx all |
Tarn Adari
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.09.21 22:09:00 -
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There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.21 22:11:00 -
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For everything but temperate worlds there's the issue of the planet not being a ball of dirt. The most likely solution would be for floating structures of some sort. Air-combat-only would be far too restrictive. Simply having floating platform areas suspended above the hostile terrain would be a simple and effective solution to every type of hostile planet type. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.21 22:12:00 -
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It would be a good map to emphasize aerial combat. Seriously, in a couple years you guys will see how cool it feels to jetpack or whatever from aerial platforms to other aerial platforms taking over objectives with fighter jet support. I really hope dust just grows and branches out into all kinds of kick (three letter word for kitten) |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.09.22 00:41:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:Lendoody wrote:How will gas planets and the likes factor into dust 514..
considering on a real gas planet it has no real "ground" how will these factor into dust? Will they be air combat only maps? or will they simply be excluded from the game? I don't know how gas planets factor into the planetary resource game on EVE or how the EVE lore fits with them, but I could see fighting for control of stationary floating resource platforms or some such. Might be interesting to see how that would affect the combat resource makeup, e.g., not much room for tanks to move but aerial vehicles have plenty of space to sweep back and forth.
Easy. I used to make about 65 mill in Coolant and about 30 mill in oxygen on gas planets a month maybe more depending on the level of the command center and how much maintenance I would do on it. They were important fuels for POSs and IIRC, are needed to make fuel blocks for POSs now. |
Gnaar Amarr
10
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:02:00 -
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Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations.
You pulled that one out of your ass. The game will even have magma planets. It will have every planet type as that is the point of the game. |
a dirty Shisno
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:13:00 -
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Gnaar Amarr wrote:Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations. You pulled that one out of your ass. The game will even have magma planets. It will have every planet type as that is the point of the game.
Not at launch.
See "Seeding the Universe".
And now I'll quote yourself: "You pulled that one out of your ass." |
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Patches The Hyena
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:18:00 -
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a dirty Shisno wrote:Gnaar Amarr wrote:Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations. You pulled that one out of your ass. The game will even have magma planets. It will have every planet type as that is the point of the game. Not at launch. See "Seeding the Universe". And now I'll quote yourself: "You pulled that one out of your ass."
Who cares if its not at launch? This is a game where development will never stop so at launch we will only have a small fraction of planned features. |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:20:00 -
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Gas planets actually do often have a rocky or metallic core that you could walk on. Of course the pressure and heat there far exceeds anything our weapons could generate and there'd be no way we could survive for even a few seconds if dropped upon it.
So yeah, floating platforms seem like the way to go, especially if they're still within the confines of the atmosphere. Jupiter is a constant storm, even at the points furthest from the core, and if other gas planets are similar then fighting on such terrain, especially in aircraft, would be a delightful challenge. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:24:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:Gas planets actually do often have a rocky or metallic core that you could walk on. Of course the pressure and heat there far exceeds anything our weapons could generate and there'd be no way we could survive for even a few seconds if dropped upon it.
So yeah, floating platforms seem like the way to go, especially if they're still within the confines of the atmosphere. Jupiter is a constant storm, even at the points furthest from the core, and if other gas planets are similar then fighting on such terrain, especially in aircraft, would be a delightful challenge.
Cloud city ftw |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:39:00 -
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Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations.
Because you are a developer of the game and we should trust everything you say. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:54:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Sees-Too-Much wrote:Gas planets actually do often have a rocky or metallic core that you could walk on. Of course the pressure and heat there far exceeds anything our weapons could generate and there'd be no way we could survive for even a few seconds if dropped upon it.
So yeah, floating platforms seem like the way to go, especially if they're still within the confines of the atmosphere. Jupiter is a constant storm, even at the points furthest from the core, and if other gas planets are similar then fighting on such terrain, especially in aircraft, would be a delightful challenge. Cloud city ftw
would love to send someone off the edge just to watch them fall to there doom  |
Gnaar Amarr
10
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Posted - 2012.09.22 03:32:00 -
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a dirty Shisno wrote:Gnaar Amarr wrote:Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations. You pulled that one out of your ass. The game will even have magma planets. It will have every planet type as that is the point of the game. Not at launch. See "Seeding the Universe". And now I'll quote yourself: "You pulled that one out of your ass."
Learn to read, that was referencing his comment that it is unlikely for them Ever to be released, my comment had nothing to do with launch. |
wathak 514
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2012.09.22 03:43:00 -
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As i said in a thread in the feedback section called [requist] air combat only maps
Ive away thought of gas planets becoming more of an island hopping campaighn rather than only air combat
Pilots will have a large role in gas planets
-dropship pilots- transport the troops from floating city to floating city who then capture and control the island of metal.
-fighter pilots- provide support for and defend dropships and "ground support aircraft"
-ground support aircraft pilots- (first we need a better name) support ground troops for the most part the islands be to small for tanks so these guys will be the tank of aircraft.
-others- still to be determined
Of coarse foot soldiers are still a main and necessary part but for a gas planet aircraft become the main vehicle as the ground is floating steel platforms and not only will tanks and lavs have a hard time moving around they will also have a hard time killing anything givin that there will be so so many walls and crap. After all the platforms are specally built for industry and factories not farmland though im shure there are a few ways to give tanks there fair placebut it be tricky as the map would have to be made just right
@tarn adari and a dirty shisno
Barren planets come first as u may see being as weve been running around on barren maps temprate will come soon after launch after that proply magma then gas then ocianic then plasma as for shatered i dont know never seen one but i would guess they be very close to barren worlds
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Sees-Too-Much
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Posted - 2012.09.22 03:46:00 -
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wathak 514 wrote:
-ground support aircraft pilots- (first we need a better name)
Are you talking about Close Air Support? |
wathak 514
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2012.09.22 03:59:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:wathak 514 wrote:
-ground support aircraft pilots- (first we need a better name)
Are you talking about Close Air Support?
Mainly ya i couldnt think of a better name at the time so sue me i wrote the post during chem class |
a dirty Shisno
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.09.22 04:39:00 -
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Gnaar Amarr wrote:a dirty Shisno wrote:Gnaar Amarr wrote:Tarn Adari wrote:There will be no gas planets in Dust at launch (only temperate planets). It is possible that they might be added later, but it is very unlikely, due to memory limitations. You pulled that one out of your ass. The game will even have magma planets. It will have every planet type as that is the point of the game. Not at launch. See "Seeding the Universe". And now I'll quote yourself: "You pulled that one out of your ass." Learn to read, that was referencing his comment that it is unlikely for them Ever to be released, my comment had nothing to do with launch.
Learn to read. "You pulled that one out of your ass" means "You are TOTALLY lying/ making that up". As well, if you bother to watch "Seeding the Universe" you would see they only promise temperate planets and want to see if they can get other types in the future. Nothing at all is promised except temperate planets.
They do have trouble due to technical limitations. They showed off that they can make a snow planet by simply overlaying snow over a temperate planet, but a magma planet, or an ocean planet are entirely different. They are both proposed but certainly not promised. They are looking into the possibility of including them in the future. |
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