DUST Search - [Request] Blow up soldiers into pieces

Tarn Adari wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Tarn Adari wrote:

Completely unnecessary...in what way would this benefit the game?

Seriously...gamers want to be taken seriously, we want mature games, handling mature themes...but then there are the idiots that think a game is the more mature, the more boobs and gore it contains...that is just childish...and sadly they are not a minority...

Thinking about professionals in the game industry whooping and cheering on behalf of interactive torture at the hands of Sam Fisher (before the 'moral choice' of killing or sparing him), gives me the shudders...makes me not want to be part of that industry anymore...

To be fair, the guy isn't asking for boobs bouncing around on the battlefield, and a bit of gore actually makes sense because its a battle. Maturity and gore are not incompatible, in fact there are tons of very critically acclaimed mature things (tv shows, movies, games) that have gore.
That being said, the destruction of nanites on the battlefield makes this idea of gore left on the battlefield not feasable.

Are these thing mature because they have gore in it? I think not. They would just be as mature without gore. Just because something is rated mature, it is not necessarily mature.

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xeto rak Epidemic. Space Immigration 23	Posted - 2012.09.21 18:33:00 - [1] - Quote It would be absolutely great if we could find pieces of bodies and bones while we walk... I would like to see pieces of the inside of the body blow up from targets... and leave them there for everybody to see... and how about soldiers still going without an arm or a leg? a lot more realistic I say... think sniper shot, hit in the face, helmet cracks and eye and brain pops out.... Let's see what people think....
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.21 19:39:00 - [2] - Quote xeto rak wrote: It would be absolutely great if we could find pieces of bodies and bones while we walk... I would like to see pieces of the inside of the body blow up from targets... and leave them there for everybody to see... and how about soldiers still going without an arm or a leg? a lot more realistic I say... think sniper shot, hit in the face, helmet cracks and eye and brain pops out.... Let's see what people think.... Remember this is being marketed worldwide. The Australians already had to deal with not having a server to play on effectively for months, and now you want a feature that would get the whole game banned in their country? Not to mention others with media review boards.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.21 19:56:00 - [3] - Quote Nanites in suits decompose the body quickly to prevent caputure of technology and information including the biomass as that can be traced back to owner. Great for cladecent operations.
Wreckless Endangerment Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.09.21 19:58:00 - [4] - Quote Shotgun blasts should also remove the victims head. LOL this isn't FEAR.
Tarn Adari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2012.09.21 20:07:00 - [5] - Quote Completely unnecessary...in what way would this benefit the game? Seriously...gamers want to be taken seriously, we want mature games, handling mature themes...but then there are the idiots that think a game is the more mature, the more boobs and gore it contains...that is just childish...and sadly they are not a minority... Thinking about professionals in the game industry whooping and cheering on behalf of interactive torture at the hands of Sam Fisher (before the 'moral choice' of killing or sparing him), gives me the shudders...makes me not want to be part of that industry anymore...
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.21 20:18:00 - [6] - Quote no this would effectivly get me kicked out of dust if this was added. and i know lots of other people, entire countrys who are in the same boat.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.09.21 21:10:00 - [7] - Quote lol no it would cause too much lag and whatnot and just is too much to model, having extra pieces requires extra code and just makes everything more of an issue and more work, having solid models that are just rigged to be rag dolls creates less work, thats why you discentegrate too and turn black while doing it cause its easier to model. Belive me I know D: You realize even making a BREAK for a wall in game is lots of shapes :V triangles or polygons I forget.. its like 200 triangles or polygons just to make it look right :V thats if the person i was working with on a little failed side project wasnt BS'ing me. Anyways regardless, doing that would cause more work for CCP and would be just too laggy to do with multiplayer maybe in Single Player they could :V
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.09.21 21:13:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xeto rak wrote: It would be absolutely great if we could find pieces of bodies and bones while we walk... I would like to see pieces of the inside of the body blow up from targets... and leave them there for everybody to see... and how about soldiers still going without an arm or a leg? a lot more realistic I say... think sniper shot, hit in the face, helmet cracks and eye and brain pops out.... Let's see what people think.... Remember this is being marketed worldwide. The Australians already had to deal with not having a server to play on effectively for months, and now you want a feature that would get the whole game banned in their country? Not to mention others with media review boards. This is the most logical answer. Germany and Australia hate gore in there video games, so they ban them. If you want gore then feast on Mortal Kombat.
xeto rak Epidemic. Space Immigration 23	Posted - 2012.09.21 21:54:00 - [9] - Quote The I suggest that CCP come out with a special 'gore pack' only available in countries where it is allowed. It's going to attract loads of people. And BTW if you are 18 you should be able to like, watch and buy whatever you like.
Tarn Adari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2012.09.21 22:07:00 - [10] - Quote Why would they spend resources on stuff that reaches only part of the audience? I say leave it as it is and concentrate on features that really adds something to the gameplay, instead of catering to childish gore-fetishists... Also, there is no censoring of games in Germany. You can buy every game you want (unless it is confiscated due to "use of symbols of unconstitutional organizations"), but if the USK (Entertainment Software Self-Regulation Body) refuses to rate a game, it is not allowed to advertise it. This includes having it on the shelves in store. But you can still buy it, if you are 18. All games that are censored are like this on behalf of the publishers who want a 18 or 16 rating.

Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.21 22:57:00 - [11] - Quote xeto rak wrote: The I suggest that CCP come out with a special 'gore pack' only available in countries where it is allowed. It's going to attract loads of people. And BTW if you are 18 you should be able to like, watch and buy whatever you like. Why does body dismemberment need to be in a game, and do we really even want the kind of people such a feature would attract?
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.09.22 00:43:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xeto rak wrote: The I suggest that CCP come out with a special 'gore pack' only available in countries where it is allowed. It's going to attract loads of people. And BTW if you are 18 you should be able to like, watch and buy whatever you like. Why does body dismemberment need to be in a game, and do we really even want the kind of people such a feature would attract? Realism is realism, comrade.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.09.22 02:38:00 - [13] - Quote Xavier Hastings wrote: Realism is realism, comrade. Realism is a means, not an end. Anyway, the game has performance issues as-is without throwing in gibs. Little sprays of blood when the killing blow lands is fine by me as the extent of the game's gore.
Etero Narciss Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 112	Posted - 2012.09.22 03:39:00 - [14] - Quote As everyone else said, no. Personally, I'd rather have persistent wrecks from destroyed vehicles, and maybe persistent bodies. No need them for them to be blown to pieces though.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.09.22 04:29:00 - [15] - Quote Tarn Adari wrote: Completely unnecessary...in what way would this benefit the game? Seriously...gamers want to be taken seriously, we want mature games, handling mature themes...but then there are the idiots that think a game is the more mature, the more boobs and gore it contains...that is just childish...and sadly they are not a minority... Thinking about professionals in the game industry whooping and cheering on behalf of interactive torture at the hands of Sam Fisher (before the 'moral choice' of killing or sparing him), gives me the shudders...makes me not want to be part of that industry anymore... To be fair, the guy isn't asking for boobs bouncing around on the battlefield, and a bit of gore actually makes sense because its a battle. Maturity and gore are not incompatible, in fact there are tons of very critically acclaimed mature things (tv shows, movies, games) that have gore. That being said, the destruction of nanites on the battlefield makes this idea of gore left on the battlefield not feasable.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.09.22 04:32:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xeto rak wrote: It would be absolutely great if we could find pieces of bodies and bones while we walk... I would like to see pieces of the inside of the body blow up from targets... and leave them there for everybody to see... and how about soldiers still going without an arm or a leg? a lot more realistic I say... think sniper shot, hit in the face, helmet cracks and eye and brain pops out.... Let's see what people think.... Remember this is being marketed worldwide. The Australians already had to deal with not having a server to play on effectively for months, and now you want a feature that would get the whole game banned in their country? Not to mention others with media review boards. Thought australians got a 18+ game rating law passed, ending the defacto ban on mature games. I could be wrong.
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.09.22 08:32:00 - [17] - Quote xeto rak wrote: The I suggest that CCP come out with a special 'gore pack' only available in countries where it is allowed. It's going to attract loads of people. And BTW if you are 18 you should be able to like, watch and buy whatever you like. And CCP should be able to make the game the way they want too. And they may not want to put a lot of extra work into something that really isn't necessary and may cost them potential customers.
Tarn Adari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2012.09.22 12:08:00 - [18] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Tarn Adari wrote: Completely unnecessary...in what way would this benefit the game? Seriously...gamers want to be taken seriously, we want mature games, handling mature themes...but then there are the idiots that think a game is the more mature, the more boobs and gore it contains...that is just childish...and sadly they are not a minority... Thinking about professionals in the game industry whooping and cheering on behalf of interactive torture at the hands of Sam Fisher (before the 'moral choice' of killing or sparing him), gives me the shudders...makes me not want to be part of that industry anymore... To be fair, the guy isn't asking for boobs bouncing around on the battlefield, and a bit of gore actually makes sense because its a battle. Maturity and gore are not incompatible, in fact there are tons of very critically acclaimed mature things (tv shows, movies, games) that have gore. That being said, the destruction of nanites on the battlefield makes this idea of gore left on the battlefield not feasable. Are these thing mature because they have gore in it? I think not. They would just be as mature without gore. Just because something is rated mature, it not necessarily is mature.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.09.22 12:15:00 - [19] - Quote Tarn Adari wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Tarn Adari wrote: Completely unnecessary...in what way would this benefit the game? Seriously...gamers want to be taken seriously, we want mature games, handling mature themes...but then there are the idiots that think a game is the more mature, the more boobs and gore it contains...that is just childish...and sadly they are not a minority... Thinking about professionals in the game industry whooping and cheering on behalf of interactive torture at the hands of Sam Fisher (before the 'moral choice' of killing or sparing him), gives me the shudders...makes me not want to be part of that industry anymore... To be fair, the guy isn't asking for boobs bouncing around on the battlefield, and a bit of gore actually makes sense because its a battle. Maturity and gore are not incompatible, in fact there are tons of very critically acclaimed mature things (tv shows, movies, games) that have gore. That being said, the destruction of nanites on the battlefield makes this idea of gore left on the battlefield not feasable. Are these thing mature because they have gore in it? I think not. They would just be as mature without gore. Just because something is rated mature, it is not necessarily mature. I never said gore makes something mature, I never said that at all. All I am saying is that gore and maturity are not incompatible. Having gore wouldn't necessarily make the game less mature. I don't understand why you lump the writer of this thread with the "more gore = more mature" crowd; he said nothing suggesting this.
Varys Targaryen 200	Posted - 2012.09.22 13:36:00 - [20] - Quote While this isn't a huge priority, i'm actually on board with a little more gore. Just for the sake of immersion. I think it would help make these guns actually feel like incredibly powerful tools of destruction. Nothing over the top, but maybe a lost limb whenever massive damage is done by a railgun type weapon, explosives, or concentrated plasma damage. Again, not a priority, but something to consider down the road when CCP has the core gameplay down + extra resources to spend.

Adramelech Re 11	Posted - 2012.09.22 14:52:00 - [21] - Quote Etero Narciss wrote: As everyone else said, no. Personally, I'd rather have persistent wrecks from destroyed vehicles, and maybe persistent bodies. No need them for them to be blown to pieces though. Pretty much this. Would assist with salvage too. Its a shame that vehicles 'go away' at present.
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.09.22 16:21:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Nanites in suits decompose the body quickly to prevent caputure of technology and information including the biomass as that can be traced back to owner. Great for cladecent operations. This makes the most sense. Though I would like vehicles to not disintegrate. Good for cover.
dubbel monk 2	Posted - 2012.09.22 19:07:00 - [23] - Quote +1. Gore always makes games more entertaining. :)
Flagratus 10	Posted - 2012.09.22 19:40:00 - [24] - Quote I say no. It's not necessary. You want gore in combat, join the Marines.
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 306	Posted - 2012.09.22 19:49:00 - [25] - Quote I also disagree with the OP. This game has so many other needs that trivialities like gore are an extremely low priority. It doesn't even add anything to immersion as far as I am concerned so it might as well be left out. Plus gore and the "M" rating it would earn the game would just encourage more obnoxious preteen gamers to play. Lets leave it out and keep this game fun rather than gory.
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 73	Posted - 2012.09.22 23:33:00 - [26] - Quote ooh dude that is disgusting!! I would seriously never spend my time or money on this game if they ever add anything close to that! Even the slight blood smear on the visor when you get hit disturbs a few of the people in my house. I do not support gore in video games in any way. I play for the fun and strategy of shooting, not the sight of getting shot!
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.23 05:53:00 - [27] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: ooh dude that is disgusting!! I would seriously never spend my time or money on this game if they ever add anything close to that! Even the slight blood smear on the visor when you get hit disturbs a few of the people in my house. I do not support gore in video games in any way. I play for the fun and strategy of shooting, not the sight of getting shot! Agreed.


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