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GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:28:00 -
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Should not be that damn grenade. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:36:00 -
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Impact grenades have to go there is no aspect about them that will suggest they will ever be balanced. The only reason I'm not using them is because I can't be that big of an *** hole. There is not much of a point in using them to make sure they get CCP's attention, almost everyone hates them already. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:38:00 -
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Yeah I can't bring myself to use them, I tried once and just felt dirty for getting such a cheap and dirty kill like that. I don't mind the concept of them particularly, but the damage should be toned down so its not just a free kill against almost anything with full health. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Yeah I can't bring myself to use them, I tried once and just felt dirty for getting such a cheap and dirty kill like that. I don't mind the concept of them particularly, but the damage should be toned down so its not just a free kill against almost anything with full health.
even if they were toned down:
Get into a short skirmish thukker, oh another guy shoot him a few times, thukker, someone shooting me from behind ,well that's no problem, turn around, strafe, shoot, thukker, or even lets switch it up
A group of people ,thukkers and wipe them out after you have softened them up. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:47:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Yeah I can't bring myself to use them, I tried once and just felt dirty for getting such a cheap and dirty kill like that. I don't mind the concept of them particularly, but the damage should be toned down so its not just a free kill against almost anything with full health. even if they were toned down: Get into a short skirmish thukker, oh another guy shoot him a few times, thukker, someone shooting me from behind ,well that's no problem, turn around, strafe, shoot, thukker, or even lets switch it up A group of people ,thukkers and wipe them out after you have softened them up.
Well its basically a noob-tube without the tube, so it's always going to be naturally hated...just a matter if CCP wants that mechanic in the game. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:48:00 -
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Contact nades are horrible and ccp are only going to reduce radius to 2.5 still making them the I win nade. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:55:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Contact nades are horrible and ccp are only going to reduce radius to 2.5 still making them the I win nade.
2.5 meters is HUGE really, I mean that's over 8 foot radius. Geeze..
My issue is that 95% of the time...there is no reason to use any other grenade type, and that kills equipment diversity. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:06:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Impact grenades have to go there is no aspect about them that will suggest they will ever be balanced. The only reason I'm not using them is because I can't be that big of an *** hole. There is not much of a point in using them to make sure they get CCP's attention, almost everyone hates them already.
Things will get worse by CCP That said it will put That Kind of grenade Also in ISK.
Ie everyone will use.
The only way to balance it is just explode on contact with dropsuit and not the environment. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:19:00 -
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As long there are sponging scouts there will be thukkers. End of the line. If the scout guys think its funny to sponge 300 bullets from my HMG then i think its funny when they get insta killed by a grenade. That simple. And the people who mainly moan about them are scouts cause thats the only counter against them and every 1 knows it. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:44:00 -
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If you have AUR, and you don't want Thukkers to be OP, here's some advice....
USE THEM.
Get 45-0 using Thukkers. Every game. Look at what happened to tanks. If something really is OP then everyone should use it. Prove it's Op. It's why spawning got fixed. It's why tank mods were rebalanced. It's why the creodon got nerfed. It's why the heavy machine gun got nerfed. Over use in a beta can be dangerous. CCP will balance according to which weapons provide the most silly statistics. Example. I sat at a supply depot and threw Thukkers & Rafiki22 for a full minute. He couldn't come around the corner and kill me. He is a better player than me. Thukkers & hives/supply depots can be abused. Not sure if it's good or bad :-( I SUCK with nades.
Time to start being a bad mudder thukker.
@Cloud. Scouts aren't too bad provided you have good aim & an automatic weapon. Unless they use a mass driver. You almost got my first "rage mail" doing that :) A good scout could just thukker you heavy. It's not really a counter IMHO. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:47:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:As long there are sponging scouts there will be thukkers. End of the line. If the scout guys think its funny to sponge 300 bullets from my HMG then i think its funny when they get insta killed by a grenade. That simple. And the people who mainly moan about them are scouts cause thats the only counter against them and every 1 knows it. I think its kinda funny watching a scout bouncing around a defenseless heavy picking him off with a few thukkers
maybe I will pull them out next time just for you Dark |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2012.09.19 22:10:00 -
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Guess you guys are having better luck than me, I seem to have one of mine disappear every match. |
Jarre Jardox
Cool Story But It Needs More EVE
30
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Posted - 2012.09.19 22:50:00 -
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I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.09.19 22:57:00 -
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Jarre Jardox wrote:I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem.
Jesus, thank you! You're not the only one. I typically only see people who use the scout as an assault suit complaining about these, although there are some exceptions. I'm not ragging on the people who see the Fused Locus and Thukkers as an issue, I just don't think they're that big of a problem... |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:00:00 -
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Jarre Jardox wrote:I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem.
Not many players are using them because they are AUR but the one that do use them to
camp a supply depot or nano hive Throw when they are about to lose a gun fight When they see a better player they throw them right away
Try them out and you will see just how cheap they are, the people that use them always throw them at me as soon as I get close because they know its their only chance against me. It will get a lot worse once there is an ISK variant. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:23:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Not many players are using them because they are AUR but the one that do use them to
camp a supply depot or nano hive Throw when they are about to lose a gun fight When they see a better player they throw them right away
Try them out and you will see just how cheap they are, the people that use them always throw them at me as soon as I get close because they know its their only chance against me. It will get a lot worse once there is an ISK variant.
There technically is an ISK variant, although it's not seeded into the market just yet. The Fused Locus Grenade is the same thing albeit a difference in damage, splash radius, etc. You get 50 of them if you buy the Merc Pack. |
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:40:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Jarre Jardox wrote:I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem. Not many players are using them because they are AUR but the one that do use them to camp a supply depot or nano hive Throw when they are about to lose a gun fight When they see a better player they throw them right away Try them out and you will see just how cheap they are, the people that use them always throw them at me as soon as I get close because they know its their only chance against me. It will get a lot worse once there is an ISK variant.
Exactly.
On the map of the mountain for example.
1 -Go to the depot suply the highest point 2 - And keep throwing thousands of grenada for those who climb 3 - Kill Kill Kill
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:44:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:As long there are sponging scouts there will be thukkers. End of the line. If the scout guys think its funny to sponge 300 bullets from my HMG then i think its funny when they get insta killed by a grenade. That simple. And the people who mainly moan about them are scouts cause thats the only counter against them and every 1 knows it.
Maybe its your aim I find scouts go down easy with a HMG. |
Jarre Jardox
Cool Story But It Needs More EVE
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:32:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Jarre Jardox wrote:I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem. Not many players are using them because they are AUR but the one that do use them to camp a supply depot or nano hive Throw when they are about to lose a gun fight When they see a better player they throw them right away Try them out and you will see just how cheap they are, the people that use them always throw them at me as soon as I get close because they know its their only chance against me. It will get a lot worse once there is an ISK variant.
I think its just stb hate Carlos cus I'm a prettty good player and I don't seem to attract contact nades like ur saying. I've never seen anyone nade camping yet but honestly it has a pretty easy counter blow up the supply depot. Also y would I want to give up my proto AV nades to use these when they r best in cqc which I tend to avoid with my ar setup. Its pretty easy to juke any nade from a medium distance now tht they have markers. So again I don't see the problem with them. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:42:00 -
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Jarre Jardox wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:Jarre Jardox wrote:I feel like the only one who doesn't have a problem with anything in this game. I've only died to contact nades a few times and I'd say half of them were expertly thrown outside of cqc. So I don't see the problem. Not many players are using them because they are AUR but the one that do use them to camp a supply depot or nano hive Throw when they are about to lose a gun fight When they see a better player they throw them right away Try them out and you will see just how cheap they are, the people that use them always throw them at me as soon as I get close because they know its their only chance against me. It will get a lot worse once there is an ISK variant. I think its just stb hate Carlos cus I'm a prettty good player and I don't seem to attract contact nades like ur saying. I've never seen anyone nade camping yet but honestly it has a pretty easy counter blow up the supply depot. Also y would I want to give up my proto AV nades to use these when they r best in cqc which I tend to avoid with my ar setup. Its pretty easy to juke any nade from a medium distance now tht they have markers. So again I don't see the problem with them.
People don't throw them at easy targets, they throw them at people they know are better than them or people who are about to kill them. I don't know how good you are but I put up 20+ kills a game with my AR and assault suit and people know me from last build because I had the top spot in war points. Sure most games I don't see them because so few people use them because they are AUR, but the people who do use them treat them as an "I win button".
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Jarre Jardox
Cool Story But It Needs More EVE
30
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:24:00 -
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So basically wat it sounds like ur saying is tht these ppl are "lowlifes" because they are using ur lack of forethought against u to survive and kill u. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:27:00 -
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I've got a new shotgun patterned purse that I was sure would win the award this week. |
ghjklghjkl
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:32:00 -
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lol |
Dino Malice
7
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:38:00 -
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for 1 they wont remove them they are prob the most sold aurum item on the market. for 2 gagah you used to abuse remote explosives in the E3 build. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:45:00 -
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The only people who would miss them, would miss them for the cheap, no skill kills they deliver. |
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