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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:59:00 -
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http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/MidnightWyvern/Fighterconceptart.png
There's a picture of a Caldari one for reference. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:28:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:Skihids wrote:The fighter in the FanFest video appeared to have flight characteristics of a winged aircraft in addition to vertical takeoff capabilitiy, much like a Harrier Jump Jet. It was certainly far faster and far more manuverable than a dropship.
Whether it has air breathing jet engines or plasma ion engines like the dropship wouldn't matter.
I am looking forward to finding out if they will be capable of the standard air combat manuvers that modern jets are. If so, it will usher in the role of true figher jocks who will have to learn what a Split-S, Scissors, and High and Low Yo-yo is all about. Dude, that is my DREAM! If it comes to this, screw the ground. I am gonna be up there all the time. True flyboys know what to do. And by the gods of New Eden i will rule the skies!
yeah I know dust is awesome right? |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:28:00 -
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didn't a dev say that combat drones were coming in the next build? |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:35:00 -
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I will totally forgive tanks being unnerfed hp/resistance wise if i get jumpjets to chase them with.... oh gawd i'd love jump jets. or jet pack whatever it gets called, i could see myself having a lot of fun with AV grenades, a rifle and JJs. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:38:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I will totally forgive tanks being unnerfed hp/resistance wise if i get jumpjets to chase them with.... oh gawd i'd love jump jets. or jet pack whatever it gets called, i could see myself having a lot of fun with AV grenades, a rifle and JJs.
^ccp we don't need jetpacks! |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:47:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I will totally forgive tanks being unnerfed hp/resistance wise if i get jumpjets to chase them with.... oh gawd i'd love jump jets. or jet pack whatever it gets called, i could see myself having a lot of fun with AV grenades, a rifle and JJs. ^ccp we don't need jetpacks!
Gotta agree on this one. Jumpjets are great for Tribes and MechWarrior, but I really don't think they'd fit here. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I will totally forgive tanks being unnerfed hp/resistance wise if i get jumpjets to chase them with.... oh gawd i'd love jump jets. or jet pack whatever it gets called, i could see myself having a lot of fun with AV grenades, a rifle and JJs. ^ccp we don't need jetpacks! Gotta agree on this one. Jumpjets are great for Tribes and MechWarrior, but I really don't think they'd fit here.
Imagine dark void as multiplayer
Inb4tehbashing: dark void was a damn good, but glitchy sci fi shooter that would've been better with multiplayer |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:51:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I will totally forgive tanks being unnerfed hp/resistance wise if i get jumpjets to chase them with.... oh gawd i'd love jump jets. or jet pack whatever it gets called, i could see myself having a lot of fun with AV grenades, a rifle and JJs. ^ccp we don't need jetpacks! Gotta agree on this one. Jumpjets are great for Tribes and MechWarrior, but I really don't think they'd fit here. Imagine dark void as multiplayer Inb4tehbashing: dark void was a damn good, but glitchy sci fi shooter that would've been better with multiplayer
I thought Dark Void was a not-so-great remake of a not-so-great original? |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:59:00 -
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Listen dude, DON'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME! As they say in the south when you sleep with your brother's sister "how dare you make babies with our mom"
Note: i had to throw that lame joke in but seriously, bash Dark Void again and I'll hunt you till the ends of new eden and beyond. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:07:00 -
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if you guys get all these vehicles, the infantry better get some toys as well, I doubt if we got JJs they'd be easy to fit and maintain lots of tank and spank, probably wouldn't lift a heavy very high are far between recharges, snipers would love them for getting positions and hate SMG scouts coming after them.
I'd really like an APC. |
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:15:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Listen dude, DON'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME! As they say in the south when you sleep with your brother's sister "how dare you make babies with our mom"
Note: i had to throw that lame joke in but seriously, bash Dark Void again and I'll hunt you till the ends of new eden and beyond.
It was one of those you either loved or hated, man. I've been a fan of Armored Core for years, and all those games are the same way. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:18:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Listen dude, DON'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME! As they say in the south when you sleep with your brother's sister "how dare you make babies with our mom"
Note: i had to throw that lame joke in but seriously, bash Dark Void again and I'll hunt you till the ends of new eden and beyond. It was one of those you either loved or hated, man. I've been a fan of Armored Core for years, and all those games are the same way.
Armoured core improved over time but nothing game changing |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:42:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Listen dude, DON'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME! As they say in the south when you sleep with your brother's sister "how dare you make babies with our mom"
Note: i had to throw that lame joke in but seriously, bash Dark Void again and I'll hunt you till the ends of new eden and beyond. It was one of those you either loved or hated, man. I've been a fan of Armored Core for years, and all those games are the same way. Armoured core improved over time but nothing game changing
Exactly, and thus a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing. But really, this thread is getting kind of off-topic.
"Jet Fighters" are confirmed, we so far know of 10 total vehicle classes, and I'm not sold on jetpack as a gameplay mechanic. |
fukier syther
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 06:39:00 -
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jet fighters would be awesome! |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:03:00 -
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For balancing, remember that CCP can only balance stuff that's already released. As for later vehicle classes, i really hope we get a RPS (rock-paper-scissors) for vehicle classes. I also think an AV weapon should be made to kill a particular vehicle.
>HAVs - rip apart MTAC "walkers".
>MTACs- Mobile AA guns. Great against fighters and infantry.
>Fighters- basically kills whatever has a hard time shooting back, namely HAVs.
AVs
>Swarm : they're designed to defeat ECMs, making them ideal against a realistically-balanced fighter.
>Forge Gun : Ideal against HAVs even now. Just don't take TOO long to aim...
>anti-MTAC...? : no current weapon seems to be designed for a bipedal, rapid-missile-launching mech. Anti-materiel rifles could kill the pilot, or "mosquito" AV drones could gradually dismantle it while buzzing right next to the mech's ears. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:24:00 -
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but back to the point of the convo.....FIGHTER JETS! |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:13:00 -
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DUST gets a full airforce! |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:27:00 -
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Skihids wrote:DUST gets a full airforce!
YES! |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.09.18 23:33:00 -
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Hawk of Battle wrote:Nah see, what's gona happen is, after Dust is released and has been running alongside EVE for several years, CCP will release a new game. A jet fighter/orbital attack fighter game, wherein you can fly all the way from ground level to support dust bunnies, all the way up and out of atmo where you can then attack EVE players in orbit.
/insane dream.
And it would be called "Mist" or something abstract like that.
Hopefully some day they'll have a game where you can own a transport ship, land, visit towns, wheel and deal for cargo, take on passengers, then take off and travel to other planets.. outrun imperial scum, and even dump contraband when you are about ot get boarded. Basically be Han Solo. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 23:34:00 -
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I'm more of a Gunship guy, but Jets are cool too. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:04:00 -
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I feel sorry for the players who join 2 years from now, there will be so much stuff they won't know what to start skilling into. As for us, when fighters come out or any thing else for that matter we will already have a considerable amount of SP in what we wanted from the old options and we will be able to freely dump the SP earned into new stuff post expansion.
Sorry future inevitably indecisive noobs  |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:23:00 -
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Hawk of Battle wrote:Nah see, what's gona happen is, after Dust is released and has been running alongside EVE for several years, CCP will release a new game. A jet fighter/orbital attack fighter game, wherein you can fly all the way from ground level to support dust bunnies, all the way up and out of atmo where you can then attack EVE players in orbit.
/insane dream.
Ya know....I saw a video a few years ago where CCP actually had EVE ships flying to the surface of the planet then back out. It was when planetary Interaction was introduced. So I dont think its TOO much of an insane dream  |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:55:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Hawk of Battle wrote:Nah see, what's gona happen is, after Dust is released and has been running alongside EVE for several years, CCP will release a new game. A jet fighter/orbital attack fighter game, wherein you can fly all the way from ground level to support dust bunnies, all the way up and out of atmo where you can then attack EVE players in orbit.
/insane dream. And it would be called "Mist" or something abstract like that. Hopefully some day they'll have a game where you can own a transport ship, land, visit towns, wheel and deal for cargo, take on passengers, then take off and travel to other planets.. outrun imperial scum, and even dump contraband when you are about ot get boarded. Basically be Han Solo.
That sounds....wicked |
STB-DropTroop EV
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:11:00 -
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Kurumu Kuruno wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Whadya think, huh? Great idea! Not at all dude... We - HAV drivers already suffer if there is some persistent pilot who hunts HAV. We need to hide under buildings and HAV which stand still great target for infantry. With jet fighets there will be no life at all. Or... there can be anti-air missle tank )
Are you kidding me?
Tanks>Infantry>Dropships/Other |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:15:00 -
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STB-DropTroop EV wrote:Kurumu Kuruno wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Whadya think, huh? Great idea! Not at all dude... We - HAV drivers already suffer if there is some persistent pilot who hunts HAV. We need to hide under buildings and HAV which stand still great target for infantry. With jet fighets there will be no life at all. Or... there can be anti-air missle tank ) Are you kidding me? Tanks>Infantry>Dropships/Other
along came a jet plane and washed the tankies out
and the itsy bitsy jet plane,,,,well. you get the point.
JETS RULE! |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:33:00 -
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Rock/Paper/Scissors
One thing doesn't have to be able to counter everything else as long as some other asset can. It's far more interesting when the theatre commander has to choose how much of what to deploy to achieve his strategic goal, and it's far more rewarding to come in and save your corp mates when they are depending on you. Overall it will make for more epic stories. |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:57:00 -
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I hope they can be customized with large turrets like blasters, railguns and missile launchers. However, because they move so quickly, fighters are forced to fire in short bursts, requiring extra damage as a result. I suggest that fighters get a 1.5-2x damage multiplier along with a 1.5-2x overheating penalty, so that a fighter pilot can deal more damage quickly, but preventing sustained fire with such high damage. Furthermore, the cooldown time would not be reduced, requiring that you wait the same amount of time to fire again for only half the time firing. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.19 02:34:00 -
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Encharrion wrote:I hope they can be customized with large turrets like blasters, railguns and missile launchers. However, because they move so quickly, fighters are forced to fire in short bursts, requiring extra damage as a result. I suggest that fighters get a 1.5-2x damage multiplier along with a 1.5-2x overheating penalty, so that a fighter pilot can deal more damage quickly, but preventing sustained fire with such high damage. Furthermore, the cooldown time would not be reduced, requiring that you wait the same amount of time to fire again for only half the time firing.
Thats actually pretty good. I agree, as a Fighter can be absolutely devastating if used right, but this would prevent people from just coming in and blasting things to smithers simply due to power+speed.
Also, i really hope that the flight controls and physics will be realistic and rather difficult. Similar to the dropship's challenge level. This way, it will actually require skills to use. |
Hawk of Battle
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:18:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Hawk of Battle wrote:Nah see, what's gona happen is, after Dust is released and has been running alongside EVE for several years, CCP will release a new game. A jet fighter/orbital attack fighter game, wherein you can fly all the way from ground level to support dust bunnies, all the way up and out of atmo where you can then attack EVE players in orbit.
/insane dream. And it would be called "Mist" or something abstract like that. Hopefully some day they'll have a game where you can own a transport ship, land, visit towns, wheel and deal for cargo, take on passengers, then take off and travel to other planets.. outrun imperial scum, and even dump contraband when you are about ot get boarded. Basically be Han Solo.
Dude, I've been saying for YEARS we need a Han Solo; Intergalactic Smuggler game BUT NOBODY LISTENS TO ME! Seriously, out of all the SW games that have been made, the fact that one such as this has not been made baffles me.
Reefersmokintaz wrote:Ya know....I saw a video a few years ago where CCP actually had EVE ships flying to the surface of the planet then back out. It was when planetary Interaction was introduced. So I dont think its TOO much of an insane dream
Well... awesome. I was under the impression the technicalities of jumping between 2 entirely different games would be a nightmare to work out, but if that's the case then I'm impressed.
Now they can also start thinking about the next game/expansion after the jetfighter/orbital attack craft game (working title Mist (thanks Rhadiem)), which will be an RTS where you issue orders to troops on the ground and playing in seperate matches on the same planet, calling in support and abilities that can hamper the enemy team or that buff your own side (think Ruse). Players wouldn't have to follow those orders of course, but there'd be massive incentives for doing so. Eventually you'd work up to coordinating every player on the ground, in the air, and in space across all 3 games as you launch full scale planetary/solar invasions.
Yes, this is the extent of my insane dream. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.19 22:44:00 -
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Cookie bump |
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