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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:43:00 - [1] - Quote Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you dont generate numbers? I saw one in the one match I played today, and he was playing it safe. Barely even noticed him.
Antonius Dacinci Bragian Order Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:44:00 - [3] - Quote My PS3 derped
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:45:00 - [4] - Quote This happens every time ANYTHING gets nerfed, people don't use it because it 'no longer works'. Like someone else said: Adapt or Cry
STB-TedNugent EV 159	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:46:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP!
Cinder Integ Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 23	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:48:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you dont generate numbers? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. Matchmaking bug is slowing down queing for many, and with the exceptions of the individuals who just gave up without trying, many people are just now logging on and tweaking their fits and tactics as tank drivers. I don't want to give anything away, but there two groups that i've seen so far who have found some simple solutions to the tank nerf and are now giggling at what is to come for the infantry who feel they can just spit on a tanks to blow them up.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:49:00 - [7] - Quote STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! the 5 letter ones are some of the most balanced maps imo. I still see a few tanks but they don't own the field anymore cause i upgraded swarms just for today to see how many tanks i could kill now i have 3 basic tanks killed today so far, and that's getting lucky the tanks dont just run away.
STB-TedNugent EV 159	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:52:00 - [8] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! the 5 letter ones are some of the most balanced maps imo. I still see a few tanks but they don't own the field anymore cause i upgraded swarms just for today to see how many tanks i could kill now i have 3 basic tanks killed today so far, and that's getting lucky the tanks dont just run away. I was refering the freeze issue and drop issue that I always get on that map. The map itself is fun to play. I just can't finish a round so I back out from now. I refuse to play something that I know will result in me having to turn off my ps3 in a way that it wasn't meant to be turned off. Ya know... One time there was this guy he turned off his ps3 improperly and whats that message mean corrupt hard drive? Nah not Ted
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:53:00 - [9] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! the 5 letter ones are some of the most balanced maps imo. I still see a few tanks but they don't own the field anymore cause i upgraded swarms just for today to see how many tanks i could kill now i have 3 basic tanks killed today so far, and that's getting lucky the tanks dont just run away. The buff to AV has made them effective enough to take down HAVs again, but the nerf to HAVs was still targeting the wrong attributes. It doesn't matter how far you nerf them if one person can still go on a killing spree with one, or he teams up with 2 other people who can each run a tank of their own. HAVs need to have a separate driver and gunner position, or this damn debate is never going to end. I agree that it should require teamwork to kill an HAV, but it should also require teamwork to operate one.
STB-YoUnGcUz EV 41	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:53:00 - [10] - Quote was just in a match with 4 took 1 out

Dane Stark Golgotha Group 178	Posted - 2012.09.14 21:57:00 - [11] - Quote STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! Sadly (4U), it's not all about you - I love the 5-letter maps. But hey - that's freedom of choice - yay freedom! EDIT: I understand if you back out. The PS3 issue is definitely up to everyone individually and I agree that if you are worried about it, you should pull out. I will never complain about that - no matter how much smack I talk. It's all good bro. These machines are expensive.
STB-TedNugent EV 159	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:00:00 - [12] - Quote Dane Stark wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! Sadly (4U), it's not all about you - I love the 5-letter maps. But hey - that's freedom of choice - yay freedom! EDIT: I understand if you back out. The PS3 issue is definitely up to everyone individually and I agree that if you are worried about it, you should pull out. I will never complain about that - no matter how much smack I talk. It's all good bro. You should really read all the posts before you say something like this..... EDIT: This was posted before you edited yours....
Dane Stark Golgotha Group 178	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:02:00 - [13] - Quote STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Dane Stark wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! Sadly (4U), it's not all about you - I love the 5-letter maps. But hey - that's freedom of choice - yay freedom! EDIT: I understand if you back out. The PS3 issue is definitely up to everyone individually and I agree that if you are worried about it, you should pull out. I will never complain about that - no matter how much smack I talk. It's all good bro. You should really read all the posts before you say something like this..... EDIT: This was posted before you edited yours.... Yep, I do...but seriously - thanks for the advice. No one reads my posts either. This is just a way to kill time between matches, right?
Dane Stark Golgotha Group 178	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:03:00 - [14] - Quote Dane Stark wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Dane Stark wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. I mean I don't wanna just hand over a kill that costs me that much. I haven't even pulled one out but I have only played once today only to freeze. I HATE THE 5 LETTER MAP! Sadly (4U), it's not all about you - I love the 5-letter maps. But hey - that's freedom of choice - yay freedom! EDIT: I understand if you back out. The PS3 issue is definitely up to everyone individually and I agree that if you are worried about it, you should pull out. I will never complain about that - no matter how much smack I talk. It's all good bro. You should really read all the posts before you say something like this..... EDIT: This was posted before you edited yours.... Yep, I do...but seriously - thanks for the advice. No one reads my posts either. This is just a way to kill time between matches, right? Heh - I love it - it's all good - really :)
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:13:00 - [15] - Quote Because the "pro tankers" are above using militia vehicles it seems.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:13:00 - [16] - Quote deleted
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:19:00 - [17] - Quote No one wants to lose their 1.6 mil ISK investment to a FREE OP swarm launcher
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:21:00 - [18] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: No one wants to lose their 1.6 mil ISK investment to a FREE OP swarm launcher yeahh, cause militia can really do that damage.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:22:00 - [19] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: No one wants to lose their 1.6 mil ISK investment to a FREE OP swarm launcher Every frickin' thread, every single frickin' thread.... enough already.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:23:00 - [20] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you dont generate numbers? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. Matchmaking bug is slowing down queing for many, and with the exceptions of the individuals who just gave up without trying, many people are just now logging on and tweaking their fits and tactics as tank drivers. I don't want to give anything away, but there two groups that i've seen so far who have found some simple solutions to the tank nerf and are now giggling at what is to come for the infantry who feel they can just spit on a tanks to blow them up. Well depends how its done. If its escorted by foot soldiers then I am entierly fine with that.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:24:00 - [21] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: No one wants to lose their 1.6 mil ISK investment to a FREE OP swarm launcher So...you rahter lose the 100 million in tanks to the a clearly OP delete key thats comming soon?
Hawk of Battle Algintal Core Gallente Federation 78	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote I was just in a match that had 3 of them on our side. The match before that the enemy had one trundling about too. They're not gone at all.
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:30:00 - [23] - Quote I took out two HAV's in my Madugar, another Madrugar and a Sica. No one took out Swarm Launchers to stop me. Granted, I was using a Railgun, and basically only killed 9-10 dedicated snipers the whole game.
DestrukterDust Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:35:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. why lose 2 mill for testing when i can put it into suits and why continue skilling tank when i can go 25-0 with a scout dropsuit and submachine? how about you train tank and we'll test it? that way you can see if theyre a waste of skills and isk, i know its a beta but for those reasons tanks wont be tested. no one wants to.
STB-TedNugent EV 159	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:40:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you dont generate numbers? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. Matchmaking bug is slowing down queing for many, and with the exceptions of the individuals who just gave up without trying, many people are just now logging on and tweaking their fits and tactics as tank drivers. I don't want to give anything away, but there two groups that i've seen so far who have found some simple solutions to the tank nerf and are now giggling at what is to come for the infantry who feel they can just spit on a tanks to blow them up. Well depends how its done. If its escorted by foot soldiers then I am entierly fine with that. I agree your squad should be with you. It will make survival a lot easier
Needless Sacermendor 98	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:52:00 - [26] - Quote DestrukterDust wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. why lose 2 mill for testing when i can put it into suits and why continue skilling tank when i can go 25-0 with a scout dropsuit and submachine? how about you train tank and we'll test it? that way you can see if theyre a waste of skills and isk, i know its a beta but for those reasons tanks wont be tested. no one wants to. Then they are fixed ... well done CCP you must have hit the nail right on the head ... Now HAVs will ONLY be used when they are really needed and not just as a big dropsuit to roll round in every match.
DestrukterDust Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.09.14 22:54:00 - [27] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: DestrukterDust wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Played 20 rounds so far not a single HAV to be found. How are you going to justify the tanks where overnerfed if you don't generate numbers? Don't provide AV with the feeling of thier position, Other HAV vs HAV stuff and the sorts? I cant confirm if the forge gun or swarm launcher's damage was overbuffed. Also cannot confirm if the forge gun range was sufficent. Where are the matches with 10 tanks on one side? I want to see those again, its not like you're going to have these tanks at the end of the month. why lose 2 mill for testing when i can put it into suits and why continue skilling tank when i can go 25-0 with a scout dropsuit and submachine? how about you train tank and we'll test it? that way you can see if theyre a waste of skills and isk, i know its a beta but for those reasons tanks wont be tested. no one wants to. Then they are fixed ... well done CCP you must have hit the nail right on the head ... Now HAVs will ONLY be used when they are really needed and not just as a big dropsuit to roll round in every match. explain how they will be used?
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.09.14 23:06:00 - [28] - Quote no need to test when a good tank driver gets blown up quickly by AV weapons he wont pull out another tank. Espacially with the nerf+buff at the moment. Before the recent patch you needed teamwork to take out a tank now you need teamwork to keep the tank alive while a single person on the other team can take out the tank simply by himself.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.14 23:10:00 - [29] - Quote In the previous build we had good 'tank pilots'
DestrukterDust Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.09.14 23:22:00 - [30] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: no need to test when a good tank driver gets blown up quickly by AV weapons he wont pull out another tank. Espacially with the nerf+buff at the moment. Before the recent patch you needed teamwork to take out a tank now you need teamwork to keep the tank alive while a single person on the other team can take out the tank simply by himself. think ccp should reimburse all tank skills and if ppl wanna keep tank then reapply the sp from unallocated......whata waste.



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