DUST Search - Reward system for AV needs some work.

dust badger wrote:

yeah this, as i run a proto forge gun ive lost count of the times i have got a tank in to deep shield deep armor and the bloody militia swarm launcher does the last bit of the damage and gets the triple kill.

this happens alot becasue of the time the swarms take to hit the target so by the time i have 2 or 3 volleys in to the tank the swarms hit and then i get +50 for an assit from my 200k isk suit

so yeah i think top damage dealer is a good way to go, but i think this is going to be hard to judge with repping and the fact that tanks are under constant attack for the majority of the game.

Thinking about it more it could work the other way say theres a tank thats been running around for ages and someone has been firing milita swarms at him for a while but has no chance of killing him, but then i 2 shot him with a forge gun, so the swarm guy may have done more damage as he had been shooting him for ages but he will never be able to get the kill on his own or is not contributing much to the kill

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Sin3 DeusNomine Doomheim 142	Posted - 2012.09.11 01:41:00 - [1] - Quote I keep getting tanks down to there armor on shield tanks or 15% of there armor on armor tanks and all of a sudden I loose the kill to some noob cake with militant. All I get on the side line for doing the work is the assist. The highest damage contrubuter should get the tank kill. and the last hit should get the kills on the guys in the tank. It needs to be more rewarding for the tank hunters who do proto out and lay down the damage. Also vehicles burning to there death I loose so many vehicle kills to this. Really reward the guy who hits it last. Same with when they crash kill there vehicle you get only a reward it seems. Isk pay out for taking out a sagaris/syra is crap. Well really taking out any tank has bad pay out. Currently I run proto scout with proto fit and get only 200k after taking out 1 sagaris and 2 gunnlogi's and looseing 5 suits in the process. I should get rewarded 1m+ isk for the work I put in and the cost of tanks I take out. I bet the tank drivers earned more isk. Right now the pay out for AV is giving your team a chance at a win maybe. Because currently the sp and isk pay outs lack reward for the effort put in and the cost of suits and AV weapons that are burned up because you become a major target for enemy's all over the field. Swarms are a giant homing beacon so you get alot of people after you. This is not a nerf/buff thread this is just about reworking AV reward system because currently it is lacking. So please only put your thoughts on this subject.
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. 103	Posted - 2012.09.13 08:55:00 - [2] - Quote Preach on brother .....Preach on !!!!
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.09.13 09:00:00 - [3] - Quote Hallelujah!
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.09.13 09:10:00 - [4] - Quote yeah this, as i run a proto forge gun ive lost count of the times i have got a tank in to deep shield deep armor and the bloody militia swarm launcher does the last bit of the damage and gets the triple kill. this happens alot becasue of the time the swarms take to hit the target so by the time i have 2 or 3 volleys in to the tank the swarms hit and then i get +50 for an assit from my 200k isk suit so yeah i think top damage dealer is a good way to go, but i think this is going to be hard to judge with repping and the fact that tanks are under constant attack for the majority of the game. Thinking about it more it could work the other way say theres a tank thats been running around for ages and someone has been firing milita swarms at him for a while but has no chance of killing him, but then i 2 shot him with a forge gun, so the swarm guy may have done more damage as he had been shooting him for ages but he will never be able to get the kill on his own or is not contributing much to the kill
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.09.13 09:14:00 - [5] - Quote dust badger wrote: yeah this, as i run a proto forge gun ive lost count of the times i have got a tank in to deep shield deep armor and the bloody militia swarm launcher does the last bit of the damage and gets the triple kill. this happens alot becasue of the time the swarms take to hit the target so by the time i have 2 or 3 volleys in to the tank the swarms hit and then i get +50 for an assit from my 200k isk suit so yeah i think top damage dealer is a good way to go, but i think this is going to be hard to judge with repping and the fact that tanks are under constant attack for the majority of the game. Thinking about it more it could work the other way say theres a tank thats been running around for ages and someone has been firing milita swarms at him for a while but has no chance of killing him, but then i 2 shot him with a forge gun, so the swarm guy may have done more damage as he had been shooting him for ages but he will never be able to get the kill on his own or is not contributing much to the kill Which means he will feel just like you for having spent lots of money on his launchers and just getting an assist ;)
Tyas Borg Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 112	Posted - 2012.09.13 10:28:00 - [6] - Quote Militia Swarms shouldn't even exist imo. Being able to damage a 1-4mill isk tank for free is totally un-acceptable. It hinders the guys actually speccing into AV and gives the users of Swarms the illusion that they should actually be able to kill things with them. If people had to spec into AV then they'd realise that it actually works, instead we get tonnes of noobs leaching kills from the true AV guys and helping to kill tanks for zero risk and high reward. Also you end up with tonnes of people complaining that their Militia Swarms don't work. At the end of the day they are free and militia weapons, they should be pretty in-affective against anything that isn't a standard vehicle. The system is very broken.


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