As far as I've seen the release date is: when they're done

Is there an expected time of a full release or is the game going to be slowly released patch by patch until it's complete?

Next summer I heard

He's making stuff up. Expected release is sometime this year. So December at the latest. It sounds like they'll be opening the beta up this next build later this month or so, and after that it should be a month or two to release.

Now that's what I want to hear. Any info on if we get to keep our beta characters, ISK, etc.?

Now that's what I want to hear. Any info on if we get to keep our beta characters, ISK, etc.?

next wipe after this build is planned to be the last one, so we should be able to keep the stuff we get in open beta

next wipe after this build is planned to be the last one, so we should be able to keep the stuff we get in open beta

I believe end of this year is open beta(soft release), full release next summer.

I believe end of this year is open beta(soft release), full release next summer.

No. There is one more wipe. Then after that, another one to finally release. All ISK and SP is reset.

There is no wipe on release. Next wipe is the last one.

As far as I've seen the release date is: when they're done

Is there an expected time of a full release or is the game going to be slowly released patch by patch until it's complete?

Does the wipe mean EVERYTHING is wiped? ISK, SP, items?

He's making stuff up. Expected release is sometime this year. So December at the latest. It sounds like they'll be opening the beta up this next build later this month or so, and after that it should be a month or two to release.

Does the wipe mean EVERYTHING is wiped? ISK, SP, items?

There is no wipe on release. Next wipe is the last one.

Everything is gone, all you get to keep is your name, race, bloodline, and class.

Nope, CCP nothin said there will be one on release

CCP Nothin wrote:
Just to clarify, "release" in my vocabulary refers to the next patch, not launch. This is to say that the next wipe should be the last one if everything goes according to plans.

If I happen to make some horrible economic tuning decisions though, well, then all bets are off..

Next wipe is last wipe. end of the month at the latest til next wipe and update.

One wipe. Must I go bring up the thread? He never said on release. In fact, he said, there is no wipe on release, in particular, when ironwolf asked about it.
Edit: found it.

CCP Nothin wrote:
Just to clarify, "release" in my vocabulary refers to the next patch, not launch. This is to say that the next wipe should be the last one if everything goes according to plans.

If I happen to make some horrible economic tuning decisions though, well, then all bets are off..

Last wipe for beta yes, last wipe altogether no. There's one more wipe before release.
After this coming wipe there is one more

Reset and new build
'For the same reasons we couldnt transfer data from the BigBen to Singularity we cannot transfer that data from Singularity to Tranquility, the live Eve Online server and final Dust 514 destination. Inventory, Isk, and SP will be nulled out while Aurum and item rewards or bought from PSN store will be reset to preissued states. You should be keeping names and npc corps and contacts. This should be the last reset of the beta, followed by the last one for when we launch.'

From here.

Right there. Read it.

Don't say stuff unless you know what you are talking about, it will confuse people.

Next build is on TQ.

Everything is gone, all you get to keep is your name, race, bloodline, and class.

Wow, it's like arguing with a brick wall.

Yeah, I know, and then there will be another wipe on launch, as said right there in that quote.

Compare dates, seeing as how I can't use your moronic post of a link, to do so myself.

Don't say stuff unless you know what you are talking about, it will confuse people.

I hate ignorance!
Why on earth would there be only one more wipe????????
If this coming wipe was the LAST ONE before release then that would mean all beta players have an advantage over the people who never played the beta, hense there being TWO wipes.....one this month and one for full release.
Goddanm it I hate ignorance!

I hate ignorance!
Why on earth would there be only one more wipe????????
If this coming wipe was the LAST ONE before release then that would mean all beta players have an advantage over the people who never played the beta, hense there being TWO wipes.....one this month and one for full release.
Goddanm it I hate ignorance!

Fixed.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35011

September 6 from IRC convo with nothin. Three days ago.

BTW,

Ask Nothin why he says that. I'm gonna stick with next wipe being last as, he said next build is release in his vocabulary, but the **** if we know what he's talking about anymore.

Did know what I was talking about. Quoted nothin saying
next build = last wipe
wipe on release
and
release = next build

Also, do you not read ironwolf's disclaimer?

It's so simple to understand. I'll explain.

New build end of this month = wipe. (Open Beta begins)

"X" time passes = another wipe (then full game releases)

What's so hard to understand?

People are just making RANDOM stuff up that they have no clue about. It's even been said in posts by devs, in interviews that the game will release sometime LATE 2012.

Do the math! Sheesh!

I'm still sticking with summer 2013 along with major Eve expansion

There is just no way in it's current state sony and ccp would allow this to hit the masses as a full game, and I do not see them working together as intended for quite a few months ( them being Eve and Dust TQ side )

You are passing judgement on a beta build that is 3 months old!
The new build is coming end of this month. Most of the issues that we have in this build have already been addressed and fixed in the upcoming build.
This is not bf3 demo with beta tag, its real.....its for testing bugs etc etc.......and if it was being LAUNCHED in its CURRENT state then I could understand all the negativity, but right now no one has any right to judge.
if the next build is no different then you can pick it apart. But I am sure they know what they are doing.
even WITH its issues....I'm still having a blast

He's making stuff up. Expected release is sometime this year. So December at the latest. It sounds like they'll be opening the beta up this next build later this month or so, and after that it should be a month or two to release.

You are passing judgement on a beta build that is 3 months old!
The new build is coming end of this month. Most of the issues that we have in this build have already been addressed and fixed in the upcoming build.
This is not bf3 demo with beta tag, its real.....its for testing bugs etc etc.......and if it was being LAUNCHED in its CURRENT state then I could understand all the negativity, but right now no one has any right to judge.
if the next build is no different then you can pick it apart. But I am sure they know what they are doing.
even WITH its issues....I'm still having a blast

Actually, based on what was said at PAX Prime, the end of this year is going to be the start of the Open Beta, so no, he's probably closer to accurate than you are.

"By the end of the year" will be open beta. That works for this month when they release the new build and do the last wipe before the release wipe. Either way, they wouldn't do an open beta for 5 - 6 months and then wipe that all away for a release. People don't want to work on their characters and get attached to stuff for half a year and then have that all taken away from them. So a summer 2013 release would be dumb as hell and they wouldn't do that.

"By the end of the year" will be open beta. That works for this month when they release the new build and do the last wipe before the release wipe. Either way, they wouldn't do an open beta for 5 - 6 months and then wipe that all away for a release. People don't want to work on their characters and get attached to stuff for half a year and then have that all taken away from them. So a summer 2013 release would be dumb as hell and they wouldn't do that.

Devs have specifically stated in no uncertain terms that open beta begins late this year, and launch is summer 2013. It's also been made clear that there will be one more wipe for the beta, and a wipe at launch.