OK I just got a new 55in TV that converts 2D to 3D, and then spent a few hours playing DUST using the conversion. It works well on several games, and most HD programming, even Netflix streaeming altho I do use HQ settings and have a 22mbps connection.

It was visually unremarkable in DUST. Even with the 3D depth cranked up to about 80% it felt like a HUD display of the battle graphics overlayed a still flat view. The graphics float closest to you, but your gun doesn't. It makes the sighting display a bit odd also, and in turret you can't even tell it's on.

My question to the devs is this: With 3D becoming the standard, and conversion TVs like this now available, do you plan to implement a 3D display option for this game? It would help if you put out the version rather than just letting people convert standard 2D. Graphics tweaked for 3D by the game creators are always more visually coherent in 3D than the converted graphics.

3D is becoming the standard?

Id rather they support this when/if it comes out on consumer release for ps3.

No 3D until the tech is advanced enough that we can walk around the projection completely and without any glasses for an aid.

3D stuff is very gimmicky. People get sever headaches... And I haven't heard a SINGLE person say they prefer it over classic 2D varients. I wouldn't want CCP to spend the time and money creating something that few people will use and adds nothing to the game.

3D is a gimmick at best

KZ3 had 3D and that took up half of the disc, if they kept 3D out of it we could have had an awesome finished storyline and plot with an even better MP experience

the reason VR should be so appealing to gamers is that thru gyro's it could replace camera control for the player.

in DUST terms that would mean looking somewhere before your gun is even pointing at it, or the possibility of intuitive peeking around corners. Naturally this would change if DUST had the instant turn of other games...

i guess as is i'd rather DUST as it is now :).. but VR should've been embraced years ago :(

The problem is prioperception - A helmet is only half the problem, and gyros make the gaming harder not better. Youglance left or right with your eyes and your head, not just your head. And what about an aiming reticlce? You cannot slave that to eyes or the game processor can't keep up or the player can't control the aiming sights. So you STILL have to have two joysticks, one for movement (since u have no trackball floor) and one for aiming the reticle. At that point who cares if you can "look" with your head, the whole thing has become way more complicated than the MOVE controller, which ALREADY lets you "look" left or right by sweeping gun sights. It is STILL very mpuch more difficult to control movement just with that addition alone. The helmet/goggles combined with a MOVE rifle might come closer-aim w ur gun, head free to turn- but it is still light years from smooth, bug free fun we can have much easier on a flat screen. Maybe a flat screen with some 3D support LOL

But I am patiently waiting on that holodeck, y'all....

Your concerns are actually why I'm so psyched about the rift! It's is being developed by John Cormack, one of the legendary creators of Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein and may other fps and Doom 3 is already compatible with the prototype device. Which means that they have already figured out these issues in one of the most legendary FPS franchises of all time! Not to mention Cormack is one of the most picky/enthusiastic gamers you could ever meet as you can clearly see in any video where he discusses one of his projects including this one. Just listening to him talk about reducing the ms delay between head motion and display update, or the weight of the headset, or the warping of the screen with optics to cluster the most pixels right in front of the eye to mimic the human eyes perception of the world, gives me great confidence that this will be a device that is well built and over all my expectations in all measures of performance. I can't wait to receive my developers kit in December and start work on a mod for minecraft!

KZ franchise failed where MAG succeeded. The crappy story was due to the writers, not including 3D on the disc. MAG is still the best shooter so far because 256players at a time could match up. DUST struggling w just 24 at a time....but these are just our opinions. Your and mine are always gonna be different than everyone elses.

The problem with 3D in general is that the best movie that has come out in 3D was Avatar. Since then there have been many 3D movies but just like the 80s where only certain items pop out on screen it is not immersive. Changing video broadcasting nationwide was difficult enough, and was push back repeatedly. Though new TVs are coming out compatible the buying public has not be accepting of the high price tag, the lack of quality with 3D, and lack of product. Pay close attention to your movie theaters too, there was a major push by the studios for 3D, but the theaters are the one who make the sales. Recently due to the decline of 3D sales, more 2D movies have been shown rather than the 3D. Their goal is to fill the seats and the majority of the American public has not be willing to pay the extra for the 3D movies.

They have branched out this 3D acceptance with video games, cameras, video cameras, computer screens etc. So for there has not been any record breaking sales. This is due to the public in general seeing 3D as the Laser Disk which was massively big, cost a lot and the player was even more expensive. This paved the way for CDs and DVDs. Also, with the problems the 3D is having with the general public, headaches, blood pressure issues, epileptic seizures especially in people who never had issues prior. These issues have triggered multiple news reports and disclaimers prior to watching a 3D movie, much like video games have. 3D has a place with the **** industry right now who is working diligently on exploiting this new technology but market does not show that it will have a long term sustainability unless the content of all 3D movies become equal or better then the Avatar experience. Google along with other companies have been working diligently in creating virtual reality options rather than focusing on 3D. What it comes down to is the general public, not the small percentage who can afford the new TVs and expensive toys who will drive the technology.

I think you should take into account firstly how the software on televisions actually converts 2D images. It's sort of like layers, somewhat like Photoshop. Adding support for this from a game could be very hard. Perhaps we should let CCP do what they're doing for the moment as 3D could be just as challenging in the future.

I mean what's the point of 3D anyway? I want to sit down and watch Doctor Who with a nice cup of tea in the evenings. I would never want a dalek to jump out at me from the TV. I'd never watch it again!

BS

3D took half of the disc space up on KZ3 if they didnt have 3D on it they would have had 50% more disc space to do what they want with it

3D is a gimmick at best something to keep the little kids entertained when they watch a kiddy film