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amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:23:00 -
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1 take dropship 2 land on building with a friend with swarm missiles 3???? 4 profit!
the only thing that can kill you in the turret of dropships are forge guns and you can simply move away from the edge if you take damage to heal your ship; meanwhile your friend can kill anyone with a dropship of their own in a few hits.
congratulations, you are pretty much invincible. this issue that was present all the way since the may build is still present and it's pathetic. make tops of buildings out of bounds or better yet, make them pointed... that way dropships can't land up there or else fall off... so freaking simple yet CCP want bullshit in their game. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:37:00 -
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Yep also in the future there are no ladders.
Well rumor haz it one can be found in a storm drain on the comunication map.
Heheh its not a rumor I go up and down it all the time...not that it actualy leads anywhere but...well once i found some dusters down there and i think they may have been smoking drugs |
Billi Gene
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:38:00 -
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asia server: someone used to do this a lot. Which was part of the reason i created this AV guy. Lvl1 swarms have a 4 round clip, thats 16 missiles per clip. Now I don't think i ever hurt the drop ship that badly, but it always gave the guy pause. Now that I'm specced into forge guns as well, I can use the assault forge gun, which though you have to track a target accurately, does have increased damage over the standard model.
Either of these weapons will stress a Drop Ship Pilot out, as both will cause loss of control over the drop ship, and a certain amount of damage, perhaps not as much damage as i'd like, but i guess i have a bit of SP farming to do yet...
As an aside... I have heard tales of snipers taking drop ship gunners out with a head shot... unverified by my own shite sniper skills, but i have heard it more then once.
all"imho" |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:38:00 -
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meh, seems like a problem that the eye(s) in the sky could take care of with ease . I like the idea of pointed buildings to discourage outrageous sniping positions. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:29:00 -
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amarrian victorian wrote:1 take dropship 2 land on building with a friend with swarm missiles 3???? 4 profit!
the only thing that can kill you in the turret of dropships are forge guns and you can simply move away from the edge if you take damage to heal your ship; meanwhile your friend can kill anyone with a dropship of their own in a few hits.
congratulations, you are pretty much invincible. this issue that was present all the way since the may build is still present and it's pathetic. make tops of buildings out of bounds or better yet, make them pointed... that way dropships can't land up there or else fall off... so freaking simple yet CCP want bullshit in their game. Making the tops of buildings out of bounds really won't make much sense once they start increasing the flight ceiling for the larger scale maps and battles. The issue is not with the Dropship being about to get on the tower, but with it not having any limit of ammunition. If it would run out of ammo and have to fly back to a supply depot to rearm, it would be a lot less fearsome. Besides, since it's a light transport aircraft, it should have even less ammo available than the same turret on a different vehicle, like and LAV or HAV. There should never be any measures to prevent you from using certain portions of the environment. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:33:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Yep also in the future there are no ladders. Well rumor haz it one can be found in a storm drain on the comunication map. Heheh its not a rumor I go up and down it all the time...not that it actualy leads anywhere but...well once i found some dusters down there and i think they may have been smoking drugs
That's the only ladder, although I really don't suggest using it, ever..
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:35:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Yep also in the future there are no ladders. Well rumor haz it one can be found in a storm drain on the comunication map. Heheh its not a rumor I go up and down it all the time...not that it actualy leads anywhere but...well once i found some dusters down there and i think they may have been smoking drugs That's the only ladder, although I really don't suggest using it, ever.. Well, they said there's going to be more ladders in the next release, so I assume all levels will be reachable by infantry soon. |
wathak 514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:35:00 -
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Simple fix get ur own team pilot to fly over there and u can gun him down 2 things happen he eather has to take off cause hes molre of a sitting duck then a hav or he gets blown up its win win |
Mordu's Spy
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:57:00 -
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wathak 514 wrote:Simple fix get ur own team pilot to fly over there and u can gun him down 2 things happen he eather has to take off cause hes molre of a sitting duck then a hav or he gets blown up its win win
FIX he says....
SPEND ISK HE SAYS...
IT FIXES THE UNUSED OPTION OF A FREE KILL or bad animation for going up a ladder depending on your team of course |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:59:00 -
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As a dropship pilot, I love it when people building camp their dropship. Free dropship kill. |
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Billi Gene
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2012.09.05 04:07:00 -
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some towers already have a sloped roof.
whats the problem? sure its annoying when someone roof camps, but a sniper can take them out rather easily if they are outside their drop ship, and if they are using their drop ship to rain missiles then AV should be the counter, after all they have to switch position to rep their boat.
Its a silly tactic that is more annoying then it is effective, once their position is noted. Don't let it get to you, if you don't want to be the person doing something about it, then concentrate on removing his team.
Even if ladders are installed on every tower and building... which i doubt, climbing a ladder up a tower is like putting a note on your back... "kick me", because every sniper will be racing for the free kill. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.05 09:17:00 -
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seen this happening a bit myself, very annoying on some maps theres not much you can do about it because the swarm missiles will hit the towers edge rather then the dropship. On other maps the building the DS is sitting on isn't that high and you can shoot them out of their turret very fun, sniper, forge or tank should be able to handle the problem.
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arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2012.09.05 12:14:00 -
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Once you have your lock with the swarms fire those kittens straight up in the air, they will be ( a little) more likely to make it over that edge. |
Kai Onslot II
Eightfold Arrow Shadow Naval Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:01:00 -
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Making the Tops of buildings yes is a good idea to make out of bound. What is going to happen when snipers are in areas you can not reach that they have found. what are you going to make that spot out of bounds as well. I mean I have seen this happen before. and yes making that spot out of bounds. for the really tall buildings. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:19:00 -
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more ladders are coming. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:21:00 -
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Kai Onslot II wrote:Making the Tops of buildings yes is a good idea to make out of bound. What is going to happen when snipers are in areas you can not reach that they have found. what are you going to make that spot out of bounds as well. I mean I have seen this happen before. and yes making that spot out of bounds. for the really tall buildings. This is an MMO, guys. You don't see them making out-of-bounds zones on roofs in Planetside 2, do you? The only justification you can make for making the roofs inaccesable is that its done in other shooters, but those support 64 players at the most on a small set of maps. This game is going to have thousands of potential maps and variations. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:33:00 -
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Don't limit tactical freedom. If you want to camp on a tower go ahead. Its not that big of a problem really.
Just more tears for my sippy cup... Mmm delicious. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:47:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:As an aside... I have heard tales of snipers taking drop ship gunners out with a head shot... unverified by my own shite sniper skills, but i have heard it more then once.
Yeah, you can kill the gunners with a sniper rifle. If the dropship is landed it's a turkey shoot, they are dead as soon as they get in the door gun. If the dropship is moving, it's hard to distinguish the gunner at distance, so what you do is mouse-over the dropship and watch for when the target info shows someone in a dropsuit rather than the ship itself. Then, shoot for the area that you saw the dropsuit at, as it's an exposed part. It isn't the easiest thing to do, but you should be able to get a headshot on the door gunner if you're lucky.
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BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:04:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Billi Gene wrote:As an aside... I have heard tales of snipers taking drop ship gunners out with a head shot... unverified by my own shite sniper skills, but i have heard it more then once. Yeah, you can kill the gunners with a sniper rifle. If the dropship is landed it's a turkey shoot, they are dead as soon as they get in the door gun. If the dropship is moving, it's hard to distinguish the gunner at distance, so what you do is mouse-over the dropship and watch for when the target info shows someone in a dropsuit rather than the ship itself. Then, shoot for the area that you saw the dropsuit at, as it's an exposed part. It isn't the easiest thing to do, but you should be able to get a headshot on the door gunner if you're lucky.
this is what stopped me from tower camping. nothing worse than being shot out of your ship and having to watch it explode coz you cant get back to it. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:10:00 -
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I had to laugh the other day when i found you on top of a tower flipped over, i take it you landed a little too hard? Was surprised you didn't jump out and do something about my viper sitting right next to you, assumed you'd gone afk. |
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:15:00 -
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arimal lavaren wrote:Once you have your lock with the swarms fire those kittens straight up in the air, they will be ( a little) more likely to make it over that edge.
fact.
and scout suit, jump higher to make sure |
Kai Onslot II
Eightfold Arrow Shadow Naval Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:23:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:Once you have your lock with the swarms fire those kittens straight up in the air, they will be ( a little) more likely to make it over that edge. fact. and scout suit, jump higher to make sure
Agreed Rolya it would be just like shooting Ducks on the water. |
BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.09.06 03:29:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I had to laugh the other day when i found you on top of a tower flipped over, i take it you landed a little too hard? Was surprised you didn't jump out and do something about my viper sitting right next to you, assumed you'd gone afk.
lol yea figured I would just wait it out. low ISK |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
226
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Posted - 2012.09.06 03:58:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Don't limit tactical freedom. If you want to camp on a tower go ahead. Its not that big of a problem really.
Just more tears for my sippy cup... Mmm delicious.
+1 we want freedom! |
Altaree Draeden
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.09.06 13:33:00 -
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Sounds like we should be able to enter more buildings and get up on their roofs using internal stair cases. These are BUILDINGS not solid blocks of concrete. I see doors and windows! Let me in! |
hupi testi
22
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Posted - 2012.09.06 13:43:00 -
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Altaree Draeden wrote:Sounds like we should be able to enter more buildings and get up on their roofs using internal stair cases. These are BUILDINGS not solid blocks of concrete. I see doors and windows! Let me in!
In that case it would be hilarious to put proximity mine to the rooftop entrance incase some one tried to sneak up.
edit:
Naturally one should be careful not to place the mine so that it could topple the DS down. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
190
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Posted - 2012.09.06 15:53:00 -
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So the moral of this story is to adjust your personal/team tactics to adapt to annoying roof campers, snipers, tanks, etc. instead of CCP changing the game to make everyone play the way you do?
Where have I seen this before? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:59:00 -
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hupi testi wrote:Altaree Draeden wrote:Sounds like we should be able to enter more buildings and get up on their roofs using internal stair cases. These are BUILDINGS not solid blocks of concrete. I see doors and windows! Let me in! In that case it would be hilarious to put proximity mine to the rooftop entrance incase some one tried to sneak up. edit: Naturally one should be careful not to place the mine so that it could topple the DS down. I now have a mental image of said gunner trying desperately to switch to the pilot seat and pull up before eating dirt. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:03:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Yep also in the future there are no ladders. Well rumor haz it one can be found in a storm drain on the comunication map. Heheh its not a rumor I go up and down it all the time...not that it actualy leads anywhere but...well once i found some dusters down there and i think they may have been smoking drugs That's the only ladder, although I really don't suggest using it, ever.. Well, they said there's going to be more ladders in the next release, so I assume all levels will be reachable by infantry soon.
Oh I would love to watch infantry climbing a ladder to the top of one of the tall towers. :) It will be so much run to sideswipe a building for a kill. :) Or ram my nose into it. hehehe. |
hupi testi
22
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:12:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Yep also in the future there are no ladders. Well rumor haz it one can be found in a storm drain on the comunication map. Heheh its not a rumor I go up and down it all the time...not that it actualy leads anywhere but...well once i found some dusters down there and i think they may have been smoking drugs That's the only ladder, although I really don't suggest using it, ever.. Well, they said there's going to be more ladders in the next release, so I assume all levels will be reachable by infantry soon. Oh I would love to watch infantry climbing a ladder to the top of one of the tall towers. :) It will be so much run to sideswipe a building for a kill. :) Or ram my nose into it. hehehe.
uuu.. Me likes!
I have done 'soft' touch with belly of a dropship to one of the towers while trying to recover controll of my ship. This was after failed attempt to avoid swarms. |
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Otosan Ookami
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.09.06 20:59:00 -
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I love tower gunners..... But I'm one of those snipers who pays attention to the readout on the lower left.
It Isn't rocket science.... It TELLS you when you're on a suit, a gun, or the dropship ( or a speeding Onikuma driver)
Always watch that damn skyline people. They quadrupled our Draw distance this build... there is no Hiding.
Signed - One of the few snipers who doesn't climb towers and wave signs around saying "SHOOT ME"
PS... When you die... use the overhead map to look around from above before spawning in, can sometimes know which way is your best escape/attack route. |
Gem Cutter
CrimeWave Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2012.09.06 21:30:00 -
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I snipe people from gunner positions all the time. Moving or not. It's hard to lead the lag when they are moving and easier to hit the turret gunner of a jeep but it is not impossible to snipe a gunner from a moving drop ship. If it's standing still on a building...it's just another notch on the rifle. |
General Rian
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.09.07 01:28:00 -
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The only reason this is an issue currently is because some maps are excessively small and buildings are very close/have views of the entire map. I can see this quickly becoming a null issue if/when they make maps much much larger.
On a side note - I can't wait until maps are much larger; it'll make Dropships acting as actual troop-transports rather than mobile gun platforms much more viable.
I also can't wait until they add an air vehicle that is geared towards combat rather than logistics. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.07 01:32:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Don't limit tactical freedom. If you want to camp on a tower go ahead. Its not that big of a problem really.
Just more tears for my sippy cup... Mmm delicious. +1 we want freedom! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2uObQDKtw
You get Freedom |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.09.07 01:38:00 -
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I can see stairs on side of some of the towers, let me in to run up to roof. I assume art department is still working on interiors. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
226
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Posted - 2012.09.07 04:45:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Don't limit tactical freedom. If you want to camp on a tower go ahead. Its not that big of a problem really.
Just more tears for my sippy cup... Mmm delicious. +1 we want freedom! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2uObQDKtwYou get Freedom Yeah, rriiiggghhhttt |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
226
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Posted - 2012.09.07 04:48:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:I can see stairs on side of some of the towers, let me in to run up to roof. I assume art department is still working on interiors. Exterior stairs could be a snipers wet dream or their worst nightmare, depending on their camping preference. Personally, I try to and move most of the time. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.07 05:27:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Don't limit tactical freedom. If you want to camp on a tower go ahead. Its not that big of a problem really.
Just more tears for my sippy cup... Mmm delicious. +1 we want freedom! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2uObQDKtwYou get Freedom Yeah, rriiiggghhhttt
FINE THEN! BE THAT WAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a_dsoLz2Zw
and +1 to interiors to builds and more city like maps like 2009 video. |
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