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Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Sha Kharn Clone wrote:

Anti-Vehicle hotfix on 31st of August and HAV imbalance thread(s)
A lot of negative feedback came from the hotfix we deployed addressing Anti-Vehicle nerfs (AV grenades 25% less damage, forge guns 25% less damage, 400m lock-on swarm launcher) as tanks were already very hard to eliminate since currently they are swiss army knife of DUST that doesnGÇÖt have to sacrifice anything in order to do very good damage and tank infinitely at the same time.

Planned resolutions: We will make adjustments to the HAVs on various fronts: better module balancing, reduced movement speed, cool down timer on remote reps will also be increased.
- Undoing/reducing the recent AV nerf
- We are also working on other anti-vehicle items such as EMP weapons, chaff, and webifiers.
- We are also looking at increasing WP rewards for killing vehicles.

Big smile

Wont see me in a tank again I'm just glad thats over.

Thukker nades and fused nades next because nothin says P2W like they do.

Loving CCP right now so much.

liking alot of what i read here but wtf @ reduced movement speed? tanks are already pretty slow and sluggish tbh

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Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:17:00 - [1] - Quote Anti-Vehicle hotfix on 31st of August and HAV imbalance thread(s) A lot of negative feedback came from the hotfix we deployed addressing Anti-Vehicle nerfs (AV grenades 25% less damage, forge guns 25% less damage, 400m lock-on swarm launcher) as tanks were already very hard to eliminate since currently they are swiss army knife of DUST that doesnGÇÖt have to sacrifice anything in order to do very good damage and tank infinitely at the same time. Planned resolutions: We will make adjustments to the HAVs on various fronts: better module balancing, reduced movement speed, cool down timer on remote reps will also be increased. - Undoing/reducing the recent AV nerf - We are also working on other anti-vehicle items such as EMP weapons, chaff, and webifiers. - We are also looking at increasing WP rewards for killing vehicles. Wont see me in a tank again I'm just glad thats over. Thukker nades and fused nades next because nothin says P2W like they do. Loving CCP right now so much.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:40:00 - [2] - Quote yeah liking the WP increase too i was going to hang up my forge gun but going to polish it up and keep training
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:41:00 - [3] - Quote good news i just hope that they don't go over the top. tanks are a good tactical part of this game if the balance is right. actually its great news.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:45:00 - [4] - Quote Ufff... Thukker 'nades... must have been taken out 100 times with those frickin things, get someone pinned in a corner, knowing death is surely upon him and suddenly...BOOM... I get 'Thukked up'!... Shotgun dancing fairies grenade of choice.... grrrrrr! *edit: Good news on the tanks too... be afraid Tank Commanders, be VERY afraid!
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:46:00 - [5] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Anti-Vehicle hotfix on 31st of August and HAV imbalance thread(s) A lot of negative feedback came from the hotfix we deployed addressing Anti-Vehicle nerfs (AV grenades 25% less damage, forge guns 25% less damage, 400m lock-on swarm launcher) as tanks were already very hard to eliminate since currently they are swiss army knife of DUST that doesnGÇÖt have to sacrifice anything in order to do very good damage and tank infinitely at the same time. Planned resolutions: We will make adjustments to the HAVs on various fronts: better module balancing, reduced movement speed, cool down timer on remote reps will also be increased. - Undoing/reducing the recent AV nerf - We are also working on other anti-vehicle items such as EMP weapons, chaff, and webifiers. - We are also looking at increasing WP rewards for killing vehicles. Wont see me in a tank again I'm just glad thats over. Thukker nades and fused nades next because nothin says P2W like they do. Loving CCP right now so much. It was being talked about.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:48:00 - [6] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: good news i just hope that they don't go over the top. tanks are a good tactical part of this game if the balance is right. actually its great news. You know what I'm with you on that. As much as I hate tanks yes they should have a place.
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:50:00 - [7] - Quote Why dont they just make any non LAV vehicles require war points to call in like orbitals. that would cut out the tank spam all together.
Lazarus Solo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:51:00 - [8] - Quote They need to increase the cost of forge guns. The standard forge gun is way too cheap for what it does, it needs to be many times more expensive than 8k.
Jin Robot Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 330	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:53:00 - [9] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Why dont they just make any non LAV vehicles require war points to call in like orbitals. that would cut out the tank spam all together. that would cut down the spam, but it seems out of place in the dust universe. I mean you own the tank, you have purchased it, why would you have to "earn" it again.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.04 12:56:00 - [10] - Quote Woohoo!!! (when is this happening?)

Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:04:00 - [11] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Woohoo!!! (when is this happening?) Even if it takes countless builds I dont mind its getting delt with . Now the time to PAAAARTAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sryqaS07WaU Edit: I got this up so loud right now. Edit: This ones better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D5vV2a2y5A
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:06:00 - [12] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Anti-Vehicle hotfix on 31st of August and HAV imbalance thread(s) A lot of negative feedback came from the hotfix we deployed addressing Anti-Vehicle nerfs (AV grenades 25% less damage, forge guns 25% less damage, 400m lock-on swarm launcher) as tanks were already very hard to eliminate since currently they are swiss army knife of DUST that doesnGÇÖt have to sacrifice anything in order to do very good damage and tank infinitely at the same time. Planned resolutions: We will make adjustments to the HAVs on various fronts: better module balancing, reduced movement speed, cool down timer on remote reps will also be increased. - Undoing/reducing the recent AV nerf - We are also working on other anti-vehicle items such as EMP weapons, chaff, and webifiers. - We are also looking at increasing WP rewards for killing vehicles. Wont see me in a tank again I'm just glad thats over. Thukker nades and fused nades next because nothin says P2W like they do. Loving CCP right now so much. liking alot of what i read here but wtf @ reduced movement speed? tanks are already pretty slow and sluggish tbh
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:08:00 - [13] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Even if it takes countless builds I dont mind its getting delt with . Now the time to PAAAARTAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sryqaS07WaU Edit: I got this up so loud right now. Oh dear lord NO!
Jin Robot Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 330	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:10:00 - [14] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Anti-Vehicle hotfix on 31st of August and HAV imbalance thread(s) A lot of negative feedback came from the hotfix we deployed addressing Anti-Vehicle nerfs (AV grenades 25% less damage, forge guns 25% less damage, 400m lock-on swarm launcher) as tanks were already very hard to eliminate since currently they are swiss army knife of DUST that doesnGÇÖt have to sacrifice anything in order to do very good damage and tank infinitely at the same time. Planned resolutions: We will make adjustments to the HAVs on various fronts: better module balancing, reduced movement speed, cool down timer on remote reps will also be increased. - Undoing/reducing the recent AV nerf - We are also working on other anti-vehicle items such as EMP weapons, chaff, and webifiers. - We are also looking at increasing WP rewards for killing vehicles. Wont see me in a tank again I'm just glad thats over. Thukker nades and fused nades next because nothin says P2W like they do. Loving CCP right now so much. liking alot of what i read here but wtf @ reduced movement speed? tanks are already pretty slow and sluggish tbh seriously? I find they can cross a map in a instant
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:10:00 - [15] - Quote POST PONY TO CELEBRATE Tanks should move this fast http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/134384845072.png
Ire's thug GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 272	Posted - 2012.09.04 13:47:00 - [16] - Quote [/quote] liking alot of what i read here but wtf @ reduced movement speed? tanks are already pretty slow and sluggish tbh[/quote] 37.6 m/s is not slow. As of now i can get air time with the caldari tanks
Patches The Hyena 204	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:24:00 - [17] - Quote I just hope they don't go too far in the other direction. I've been in a few matches with well fitted tanks that were basically invincible, and 4 at one, but nerfing them too hard would suck too. They need their place in the balance.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:28:00 - [18] - Quote now then these people running round in scout suits................. seriously though now we get to see what tanks (and real good drivers) can do for a team when they actually help to push points, defend hold areas etc a very valuable asset to the team and well worth defending. solo pub play without infantry support will be a lot harder for them now as it should be.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:38:00 - [19] - Quote Where I'd the info come from btw Kharn? Kiriap coulda bagged himself some likes by posting this :P (if only you could like things AFTER threads get locked...) Tbh the module balancing is a good idea. 70-80% resistance to all damage is a bit obnoxious... I would like to see more variety in fits. Everyone runs pretty similar stuff...Damage reduction + repper/booster.
Henri Thoreau Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:44:00 - [20] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: POST PONY TO CELEBRATE Tanks should move this fast http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/134384845072.png You mean slow like this, right? That seems to be the way the caldari nano tanks move, whereas the gallente tanks move at just about the speed you seem to desire. :-)

Goliath Raven Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 80	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:45:00 - [21] - Quote Going back to the way it was before sounded good to me, this seems like it may be a little over the top. Reducing tank mobility? Really? Why? I mean if the 25% reduction in damage of AV weapons was returned to normal and the AV guys got the webber mine, doesn't that seem like enough? Is there really a reason to make the swarm launcher lock on past infinity anymore? That just hurts dropship pilots not tanks. I'm afraid Tanks are going to be the next for the nerf hammer but I guess its our turn, I can take it. What I see happening from all this. Tanks currently have a little trick some people know to get the effective hp up to close to 30k. Which yes is massive and a lot of tank pilots I see are using this. These changes will likely reduce the effective hp of all tanks to about 18k as I suspect they are going to fix this little issue. Then they are going to give back the 25% damage on weapons. (Cool! They should be back up) Then they are going to make it so that tanks can't run away (Why?) No more effective spider tanking (Was this ever even a problem?) And making us even more of a target with wp reward (I really do agree with this one) I haven't seen the changes yet so I will withhold judgement but as a tank pilot, I feel the nerf hammer coming down. But like I said, it is our turn.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.04 14:48:00 - [22] - Quote they are adding chaff, i read that as flares for dropships that the crew deploy. prolly for infantry too to help protect the tanks.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 904	Posted - 2012.09.05 18:39:00 - [23] - Quote The thing I'm looking the most forward to is getting back at least some of my forge gun range. This plus slower tanks will make me very happy.
NEGA LEAVESEY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2012.09.05 19:54:00 - [24] - Quote While you're at it CCP, increase skill rank on tank turrets - shouldn't take half the time to skill up any small turret, and by extension being able to jump into a large turret faster than it takes to skill up the SMG
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. 103	Posted - 2012.09.05 20:02:00 - [25] - Quote Lazarus Solo wrote: They need to increase the cost of forge guns. The standard forge gun is way too cheap for what it does, it needs to be many times more expensive than 8k. This better be a joke .........


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