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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.08.31 00:50:00 -
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LOL silly Gallente think they can run a government.
Seriously though: we're fighting for our independence, you're fighting a war of conquest. So hear me my fellow countrymen, let's fight off these imperialistic Gallente and free ourselves of the chains they call 'freedom'. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:50:00 -
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Syeleos wrote:Let's show the Caldari what the Gallente can do for the name of Freedom!
Freedom? Where you force us back into a Federation we rightfully seceded from? Pah! More like imperialists than freedom fighters. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:20:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS!
But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of!
Does no one read the lore! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:24:00 -
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What other tyrants? This thread is about Caldari - Gallente war.
Your cause is to force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part of, and keep our home world from us. If anything, YOU the GALLENTE are the tyrants!! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 02:37:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:What other tyrants? This thread is about Caldari - Gallente war.
Your cause is to force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part of, and keep our home world from us. If anything, YOU the GALLENTE are the tyrants!! Be quiet outlander! You could have leave if you want but you choose to overthrow us why should we not fight back?
Overthrow you? We took our systems and seceded! We have no wish to overthrow you.
I quote:
The first Gallente-Caldari war broke out nearly two centuries ago when the Caldari State seceded from the Gallente Federation. The war lasted nearly 100 years and was more or less fought to a stalemate. Both sides only agreed to a peace treaty after the Gallente made first contact with the Amarr Empire and decided they were likely to be a bigger threat.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gallente-Caldari_War
Another:
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Early_Days_(Chronicle)
And lastly:
After a while the Caldari agenda became clear - they were willing to sign peace if the Federation would return Caldari Prime and acknowledge the newly formed Caldari state. But the Gallenteans couldnGÇÖt agree to these demands for two reasons: one, they were loath to admit a sovereign state into their midst; close to their own home planet and were unwilling to uproot the sizeable Gallente population on Caldari Prime, and second, the Gallenteans were not alone in the Federation and if they allowed the Caldari to leave the Intakis and Mannars, both of them starting to flex their economical and political muscles, might be tempted to follow, thus throwing the whole society into turmoil. The Gallenteans were forced to regard the Caldari as rebels and renegades and had to try to get them back into the Federation, with good or evil.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_War_Drones_On_(Chronicle)
No matter what your ideas may tell you; you and your people are fighting a war of oppression. We have more in common with the Intaki and Mannars than you Gallenteans and your oppressive governments and regimes. You're the evil faction, the Amarr of this war.
Edit: The links don't seem to copy properly but copy and paste them to your address bar and they'll take you to the official EVE lore on the subject matter. You're not freedom fighters, you're oppressors. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:00:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore! You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area. Think US civil war
We colonized those systems ourselves. YOUR people decided to take them from us:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:06:00 -
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Ragna Soul wrote:All the Caldari cares about is money their big corporations run Caldari. this is not freedom. The Gallente will fight to the death for real freedom and i all i can say is that CRUX SPECIAL TASKS GROUP and all the other corporations in the Gallente federation will bring Caldari down
Your people seek to oppress us and force us back into a union we no longer wish to be a part. These colonies were our property and your Gallentean government sought to rip them from our hands. We said no and you effectively declared war on us by blockading our homeworld. Shame on you and all other Gallente. See this fight for what it is!
We fight for these reasons:
Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity.
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:07:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:Defend your home! Love your people! And fight or die well for glory awaits you in the fight for our freedom!
BROTHERS AND SISTERS! FOR THE FEDERATION! DEATH TO THE TYRANTS! But we seceded from you! How are we tyrants? You're the ones forcing us back into a Federation we don't want to be a part of! Does no one read the lore! You don't understand do you? How would you feel if someone who lives with you took a portion of your house (such as the kitchen) and said you couldn't go into their area. Think US civil war We colonized those systems ourselves. YOUR people decided to take them from us: Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races. It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. you colonized it using tech we both made independently and gave us nothing of your findings
No, we made the technology jointly, we simply wished to seek our own autonomy and colonize our own worlds, we owed you nothing:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
FIVE HUNDRED YEARS before the Federation was even created we began this. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:18:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:We openly gave you info of our findings but you intentionally hid yours, that action screams of plans of betrayal
We did nothing of the sort. You found out about our colonies and IMMEDIATELY demanded their surrender to Federation control out of fear. Fear of no longer being in power, fear of no longer being in control. Your fear betrayed your people. The gut reaction of utter terror that our people had built an empire without your knowledge.
We abided by the terms of the Federation until you sought to decimate what we had built ourselves. The Gallente are only interested in cultural assimilation. We will fought to maintain our culture, and traditions... I only hope our Intaki and Mannar brothers will do the same someday and finally put the Gallente where they belong! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:21:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:You forget, your leaders are dictators that give the people no say in who has a position of power. You claim we oppress you but you oppress yourselves
Our leaders are trying to save us from your war of oppression. We must have firm leadership (read: Cincinnatus of Rome) in order to defeat your attempt to force us to live life according to your terms.
What makes you think the Gallente way of life is the way all people want to live? What makes you so sure that your way is the best way? We want to live this way, and yet you persist in forcing us to live life your way. No more! |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:27:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
If we are focused on cultural assimilation why do the other races maintain theirs and ally with the minmatar. Holding those secret colonies was a violation of the federation rules. We didn't blockade the planet until you blockaded the acceleration gates to the places you held illegally
Show me where they violated Federation rules! There were no rules regarding this, and anything not outlined by the rules of the Federation are left to the individual states and people. There was NOTHING governing that we were not allowed to colonize our own worlds.
Have you read what the other races say about their own plight? Have you read the stories of the Intaki and their liberation movement? (Seriously there is a whole movement called the Intaki Liberation Front iirc) The Intaki deserve their independence from Gallentean oppression and control as much as we do. Your people seek to dominate and control through subtle means, to seduce us with your pleasures and lead us astray such that we forget who we are and where we come from. That we will all become egalitarian Gallenteans like you. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:28:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:I think so because it is a Democratic Society controlled by the people, not a society in which the common man is left oblivious to the powers that be.
Sorry friend your counter argument doesn't make any sense.
I'm saying that we, as the Caldari people, don't need your 'democratic society', and we don't think it's the best form of government. We believe in meritocracy, people earning things because of their abilities:
Founded on the tenets of patriotism and hard work that carried its ancestors through hardships on an inhospitable homeworld, the Caldari State is today a corporate dictatorship, led by rulers who are determined to see it return to the meritocratic ideals of old. Ruthless and efficient in the boardroom as well as on the battlefield, the Caldari are living emblems of strength, persistence, and dignity. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:39:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van.
BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :(
Gallente are evil.
I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya?
Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:41:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
You WILLINGLY joined the federation, then betrayed it's trust by amassing a seperate military power in an attempt to take us over
There is NO evidence we ever intended to take you over! You assume that based on nothing. Nothing at all. There were no conspiracies, there is no evidence, there is nothing to prove that the Caldari ever had any intention of betraying the trust of the Federation.
Your Federation found out about our colonies and freaked out and ordered us to hand them over. We simply said no. THAT is what happened.
There were no rules stating we had to report everything we did. We had a right to privacy. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:47:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms?
To police our own colonies. If we used Federation forces then it wouldn't have been a secret would it? Furthermore, that is a baseless assumption. There was never any intent to rebel against the Federation, and history (read:lore) will prove me right. See for yourself in the Chronicles.
Edit: I'm out for the night guys, it's been fun. I have to work at 8am and it's 1am now. o/ G'night. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:12:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:
Amassing a seperate military power out side the joint military was all the proof we needed against you. What possible reason could the separate military power be created when all of the know races were on good terms?
To police our own colonies. If we used Federation forces then it wouldn't have been a secret would it? Furthermore, that is a baseless assumption. There was never any intent to rebel against the Federation, and history (read:lore) will prove me right. See for yourself in the Chronicles. What is the point of it bring a secret?no matter how well you defend it independently it would be better defended by the federation fleet. Secrets are a sign of betrayal no matter how you say it. Ignoring your actions would have been a great lapse in judgment equivalent to ignoring a potential terrorist attack
We had no obligation to tell you about them. We were building them before we joined the Federation and there was no question then. It was our business. I'll provide you with two facts:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
500 years before. And culturally, our people believe in minding our own business. Your people meddle with everything.
Therefore, the Caldari view slavery as a misguided notion that does more harm to an economy (and thus a proper society) than good. However, the Caldari also consider the affairs of other nations their own business, as long as it does no direct harm to the State. As a result, the Caldari find no difficulty in being allied with the Amarr Empire and Khanid Kingdom. They may believe those nations would serve as better trading partners should they abolish slavery, but they wouldn't presume to meddle with their society.
Furthermore, a few of our extremists blow up a dome. How you respond?! With orbital bombardment of our homeworld! Billions were effected, millions were evacuated. That's like going thermonuclear on an island nation for killing a few of your citizens. The response was way out of line, and you didn't even give the Caldari time to investigate and find the criminals responsible. You just immediately launched into a war, orbital bombardment, and planetary invasion. Your people should be ashamed.
Following the attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor an extreme right-wing government grabbed the power reigns in the Gallente Federation and advocated a harsh response: bombing Caldari Prime and sending in troops to take control of the planet. Those within the Federation believing that peace talks should be initiated instead of an invasion didnGÇÖt dare speak up for fear of being branded cowards or, worse, traitors; the Gallente war machine grinded into gear.
It soon became obvious that it was a question of when, not if, the Gallenteans would take full control of the planet. The newly formed Caldari government, led by the heads of the Corporations, was far from being in full agreement as to what the correct course of action was. This disagreement, which severely hampered the Caldari State in following a coherent strategy, was only settled after the Morning of Reasoning, when the six most militant Corporations jointly ousted the other CEOGÇÖs from power. The Caldari saw that it was impossible to try to fight the much larger Gallente Federation for control of Caldari Prime. Instead, they started devising a plan to evacuate the Caldari population on the planet. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:14:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:aden slayer wrote:
You should just chill van.
BTW it's just a game! Why are you worked up about it?
I'm having fun though. :( Gallente are evil. I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya? Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism. I really think each side has a thought of who was right and who was wrong. People who support the federation thinks the Caldari started the war by separating from us. There really is no need to overreact as if this really happened in real life.
Edit: LARP is kind of a misnomer since it denotes live action. Rather, this is just plain RPing. Sorry for the confusion.
C'mon bro you've never heard of [LA]RPing? It's for effect man. =\ gonna call you Buzz Killington from now on.
Also, if I may respond to your other point, your people started the conflict but attempted to wrest control of our colonies away from us that we had rightfully built before we ever joined the Federation:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority. This was too much for the Caldari Corporations, which were already grumbling over increasing Federation interference into their affairs. For the Caldari it was a simple question of losing their autonomy forever by caving in or making a stand right then and there. They decided to make a stand. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:36:00 -
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Hollow Ling wrote:So what time do the games start est time?
There is a thread somewhere about it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33825&find=unread |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:08:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:aden slayer wrote:shouldn't we start killing caldari troops instead of role playing?
get to your drop-pod solider! I've been killing Caldari troops since 2004, brother.  As far as I'm is concerned, killing Caldari troops is role playing. 
While you are Federation scum, I will concur that killing Federation troops is always roleplaying.
Can't wait until my work day is over  |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:17:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Let me just say that though we may be at war (again) I respect you and your government's reasons for starting it.
All those years ago when we were technically a part of the federation and shared home planets in the same solar system, we crossed a line by refusing to pay taxes on deep space colonies that might have been accidentally left off the agenda for the monthly senate hearings. I think all of us Caldari can agree that getting caught perpetrating tax evasion is a serious taboo. Why, our accountants would hang their own grandmothers if they failed to declare a gift on their yearly income tax, so we shouldn't expect special treatment.
Our corporate "government" broke a law, and what's more had the gall to demand a little independence, and by golly you took action. While some of the whiny college professor types might say blockading our home planet and bombing the absolute **** out of it with nukes may have been a disproportionate response, it got RESULTS!
By forcing us to evacuate massive portions of our civilian population from our own home planet while our military sacrificed itself in a series of desperate suicide missions in order to prevent our genocide, you made an example out of us. People will think twice before ever failing to report assets to the Federation Revenue Service!
I seriously can not think of a more bureaucratic reason to start a war, it almost brings a tear to my eye.
LOL and truth comrade. I'm going to save this post. I'll reference you if I use it. |
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:29:00 -
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Naturi Riclenore wrote:The Caldari shall dread the day they ever came up against the Gallente... Our people are strong, our loyalty endless, and our morale high. We stand ready to defend freedom and peace. All that you cherish shall become our spoils. Your leaders shall fall at our hands and your people will know true freedom.
Gallente Shall rule the day
Your people perpetrate a war of aggression against us, and do so in the name of peace and democracy. Then proclaim that you'll take our colonies as your spoils and 'free' our people by bombing and invasion.
How can you perpetrate such hostility and casualties in the name of freedom of peace? All you bring is death and misery.
The Caldari people stand and defend their homes. You seek to claim them for yourselves. You're thieves, pirates, and murderers. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:45:00 -
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SkunkyUK wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:[quote=Naturi Riclenore]
The Caldari people stand and defend their homes. You seek to claim them for yourselves. You're thieves, pirates, and murderers. We are murderers and we shall take your homes and your women .. er, for whatever reason we stand for ..and stuff.
I respect your honesty, at least. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:49:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Nothing in the chronicles specifily says that gallente killed caldari civilians, but it is repeatedly stated that both military and non military caldari killed gallente civilians
It specifically states the Gallente bombarded the Caldari homeworld. How in the world is that not killing innocent people? You can't be that precise from space, I don't care what technology the Gallente supposedly have.
Even if the strikes were precisely targeted, and judging by the videos released by CCP they were not, the ground invasion had to have suffered civilian casualties. You took our home from us and we fought back. Then, we're branded murderers and traitors for defending our homeworld.
You didn't even give us a chance to hunt down the terrorists who bombed your city on OUR homeworld. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:49:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:
Gallente are evil.
I'm speaking out against the evil Gallente... in response to what the thread was about it. Ya?
Many people seem to think the Gallente are freedom fighters. I'm attempting to show them that they mirror the notion of American imperialism.
I would like you to see "The World Without US" documentary. It might just change your opinion, but then again, probably not.
I doubt it would have any such effect. More specifically, I was pointing to 'the notion' rather than stating it was any belief of mine own.
I have my own views of America, and I don't believe they're imperialistic... rather, they make judgments based on what they believe is right for whatever situation is at hand. Whether they make the correct choice or not remains to be seen. Only history will be able to tell our future generations whether or not it was the right choice.
Personally? I feel those resources spent on 'freedom' wars could have been better spent on domestic improvements in an effort to help us better support the world and ourselves. War and death only brings misery with hope of a better future... technological, domestic investment, better education, improved domestic security these things bring happiness with a hope of a better future.
I still stand by it definitely would not. I formulate my own opinions based on the history of what has happened ... not someone's interpretation of what happened. Observing behavior. Bias is unavoidable because we are human, but facts are facts. What did and did not happen... not speculation of 'what could have been'. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:51:00 -
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Syeleos wrote:Let's show the Caldari what the Gallente can do for the name of Freedom!
In the name of freedom? You're forcing us back into a Federation that we don't want to be a part of... how the heck is that freedom?! |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:52:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote: We both created a federation. We had no reason to enslave you. Hiding your military even though we have the federation military is a sign that you wanted to use it against us
That is your paranoia talking and trying to justify the act of bombarding our homeworld and pressing an unjust war of aggression against a people whose sole desire is to establish their own national identity.
All you have is: 'your secret colonies scared us'. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:54:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Caldari = Tax dodgers
I know right? The sentence for tax evasion in the Federation is having your homeworld bombarded from space. Watch out Intaki! We already paid the price on this one. Mess with Federation money, have your homeworld bombarded. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.01 14:59:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Kills innocent people because we wont hand everything over to the Gallente Kills traitors who wanted to undermine the federation with their deception and insurrection.
Deception and insurrection?
How many times do I have to say this? Those colonies were built BEFORE the Federation was even formed. Full disclosure was not a term set by the Federation.
You find out about it and blockade our homeworld, preventing supplies and freezing our assets immediately. Then, when the people of Caldari Prime tired of your unjust blockade, they reacted by bombing one of your cities in an effort to get you to stop blockading their homeworld. Before the Caldari authorities *could do anything about it* you let a *fascist, right wing government* take power and go nuclear on our homeworld from space. You carpet bombed our cities and took the planet by means of your ground forces.
The problem here is that your thieving government tried to take from us what we rightfully built with our own resources. We didn't use Federation resources to build those colonies. The Federation didn't exist when we started that project. |
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