DUST Search - 3 things CCP cannot fix... but YOU can!

Tony Calif wrote:

Ok, time for some education. There are some problems with how people play, and it's hacking me off. It's basic competative FPS gameplay stuff. These things WILL increase your chances of winning.

1.) AV nades.
Why are LAVs driving everywhere? Why are HAVs stomping on huge groups of people? Where are your AV nades? 40k SP, 100k ISK, and 2500isk per life is the cheapest way to ensure your safety. If everyone has them, no vehicle can approach infantry.
Get it done!

2.) Objectives
Why are people starting a game of skirmish, and going ON FOOT (wtf are free LAVs for) to a god damn frigging clone reserve/large blaster? A.B.C.D.E. Letters win games. Do you really want to play an objective based game? Or do you just want a massive map with loads of stuff to play with? Yes it's a beta... You have to test if you can hack everything from every angle ect I'm sure, however, it's nice to test winning the game too.

3.) Snipers
If your sniping, please try to remain aware of the minimap, and things close to you. If your 20 yards from an objective, don't watch me struggling to hack it back/fight off the invaders. Come help, then go back to sniping. SMG's are beast. And you should still have AV nades to help vs HAV.

I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool.

I think it's important that some of us guys who've stuck with things can get some enjoyable, tough games in, and start working beyond the call of duty.

That is all.

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Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.23 18:46:00 - [1] - Quote Ok, time for some education. There are some problems with how people play, and it's hacking me off. It's basic competative FPS gameplay stuff. These things WILL increase your chances of winning. 1.) AV nades. Why are LAVs driving everywhere? Why are HAVs stomping on huge groups of people? Where are your AV nades? 40k SP, 100k ISK, and 2500isk per life is the cheapest way to ensure your safety. If everyone has them, no vehicle can approach infantry. Get it done! 2.) Objectives Why are people starting a game of skirmish, and going ON FOOT (wtf are free LAVs for) to a god damn frigging clone reserve/large blaster? A.B.C.D.E. Letters win games. Do you really want to play an objective based game? Or do you just want a massive map with loads of stuff to play with? Yes it's a beta... You have to test if you can hack everything from every angle ect I'm sure, however, it's nice to test winning the game too. 3.) Snipers If your sniping, please try to remain aware of the minimap, and things close to you. If your 20 yards from an objective, don't watch me struggling to hack it back/fight off the invaders. Come help, then go back to sniping. SMG's are beast. And you should still have AV nades to help vs HAV. I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. I think it's important that some of us guys who've stuck with things can get some enjoyable, tough games in, and start working beyond the call of duty. That is all.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.08.23 18:51:00 - [2] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Ok, time for some education. There are some problems with how people play, and it's hacking me off. It's basic competative FPS gameplay stuff. These things WILL increase your chances of winning. 1.) AV nades. Why are LAVs driving everywhere? Why are HAVs stomping on huge groups of people? Where are your AV nades? 40k SP, 100k ISK, and 2500isk per life is the cheapest way to ensure your safety. If everyone has them, no vehicle can approach infantry. Get it done! 2.) Objectives Why are people starting a game of skirmish, and going ON FOOT (wtf are free LAVs for) to a god damn frigging clone reserve/large blaster? A.B.C.D.E. Letters win games. Do you really want to play an objective based game? Or do you just want a massive map with loads of stuff to play with? Yes it's a beta... You have to test if you can hack everything from every angle ect I'm sure, however, it's nice to test winning the game too. 3.) Snipers If your sniping, please try to remain aware of the minimap, and things close to you. If your 20 yards from an objective, don't watch me struggling to hack it back/fight off the invaders. Come help, then go back to sniping. SMG's are beast. And you should still have AV nades to help vs HAV. I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. I think it's important that some of us guys who've stuck with things can get some enjoyable, tough games in, and start working beyond the call of duty. That is all. It's funny, because it's true.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.08.23 18:57:00 - [3] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: ...be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. That is all. i lol'd +1
Forte Haulerson Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.08.23 18:58:00 - [4] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: (snip...) ..... be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. This sir should be a bumper sticker or t-shirt or something.. LOL!! +1 L8r, FH
STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:00:00 - [5] - Quote Forte Haulerson wrote: Super Cargo wrote: (snip...) ..... be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. This sir should be a bumper sticker or t-shirt or something.. LOL!! +1 L8r, FH Make t shirts of this then shut up and take my isk
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:05:00 - [6] - Quote The 3 things ccp is having serious problems fixing is freezes, gltiches and all out crashes due to their poorly optimized build!
Etero Narciss Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 112	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:09:00 - [7] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. That is all. This here is worthy of being a campaign slogan. This needs to be everywhere, in everyone's signatures. Edited: When we can have them...
Jimbeezy Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:10:00 - [8] - Quote Bravo Tony Bravo. +1
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:12:00 - [9] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Ok, time for some education. There are some problems with how people play, and it's hacking me off. It's basic competative FPS gameplay stuff. These things WILL increase your chances of winning. 1.) AV nades. Why are LAVs driving everywhere? Why are HAVs stomping on huge groups of people? Where are your AV nades? 40k SP, 100k ISK, and 2500isk per life is the cheapest way to ensure your safety. If everyone has them, no vehicle can approach infantry. Get it done! 2.) Objectives Why are people starting a game of skirmish, and going ON FOOT (wtf are free LAVs for) to a god damn frigging clone reserve/large blaster? A.B.C.D.E. Letters win games. Do you really want to play an objective based game? Or do you just want a massive map with loads of stuff to play with? Yes it's a beta... You have to test if you can hack everything from every angle ect I'm sure, however, it's nice to test winning the game too. 3.) Snipers If your sniping, please try to remain aware of the minimap, and things close to you. If your 20 yards from an objective, don't watch me struggling to hack it back/fight off the invaders. Come help, then go back to sniping. SMG's are beast. And you should still have AV nades to help vs HAV. I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. I think it's important that some of us guys who've stuck with things can get some enjoyable, tough games in, and start working beyond the call of duty. That is all. See this is what I expect from FPS players, good advice.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:12:00 - [10] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Ok, time for some education. There are some problems with how people play, and it's hacking me off. It's basic competative FPS gameplay stuff. These things WILL increase your chances of winning. 1.) AV nades. Why are LAVs driving everywhere? Why are HAVs stomping on huge groups of people? Where are your AV nades? 40k SP, 100k ISK, and 2500isk per life is the cheapest way to ensure your safety. If everyone has them, no vehicle can approach infantry. Get it done! 2.) Objectives Why are people starting a game of skirmish, and going ON FOOT (wtf are free LAVs for) to a god damn frigging clone reserve/large blaster? A.B.C.D.E. Letters win games. Do you really want to play an objective based game? Or do you just want a massive map with loads of stuff to play with? Yes it's a beta... You have to test if you can hack everything from every angle ect I'm sure, however, it's nice to test winning the game too. 3.) Snipers If your sniping, please try to remain aware of the minimap, and things close to you. If your 20 yards from an objective, don't watch me struggling to hack it back/fight off the invaders. Come help, then go back to sniping. SMG's are beast. And you should still have AV nades to help vs HAV. I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. I think it's important that some of us guys who've stuck with things can get some enjoyable, tough games in, and start working beyond the call of duty. That is all. +1 bro dont even know why i still see ppl using infantry nades....sure a random kill on an infantry guy is all well and nice but vehicles pose a bigger threat than infantry so it only makes sense to have some sort of way to help the team defend against an HAV alone u might not do much but if everyone has AV nades then HAV drivers wont be able to roam freely farming kills all game

Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:42:00 - [11] - Quote I lied sorry. The grenade skill book is 378,000. Just checked. Still worth it.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:48:00 - [12] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I guess what I'm trying to say is be a Swiss army knife, instead of just being a tool. That is all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKKArjmRHI&feature=fvwrel (skip ad)
DON RODIE II Deep Space Republic 168	Posted - 2012.08.23 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote lol what about number 4 ....trolls?
Altman Stormsinger Doomheim 16	Posted - 2012.08.23 22:16:00 - [14] - Quote DON RODIE II wrote: lol what about number 4 ....trolls? issue number 4 is people complaining about the terrible spawn points in ambush. use the gorram drop uplinks, people. if nobody throws one, do it yourself. just have one build with a DU just to make sure you can. a good DU wins games.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:49:00 - [15] - Quote Actually... 4.) Free LAV's Buy militia stuff and fit it with things. Whatever militia modules you can squeeze on. I've gone damage resistance. And put a rail gun on to troll my passengers. Just beware of 1.) AV nades.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.24 13:07:00 - [16] - Quote Keeping this bumped in the hope I get some tough games later.
Corban Lahnder ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.08.24 13:18:00 - [17] - Quote This will probably end tonight now that I've posted this murphys law and everything, But really since the server migration and only being able to play ambush I have yet to be ****** by the current spawn system. Doesnt mean others havent been though.
Eddie Boirelle Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 43	Posted - 2012.08.24 13:59:00 - [18] - Quote you forgot 4) Don't suicide if there is a logi in the area, let him come rez you. The number of times I've seen someone go down, run over to them and they suicide before I can even get my nano out..... I even have a repair tool to take your armour back up. Help me help you EB
Dzark Kill Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2012.08.24 14:27:00 - [19] - Quote Eddie Boirelle wrote: you forgot 4) Don't suicide if there is a logi in the area, let him come rez you. The number of times I've seen someone go down, run over to them and they suicide before I can even get my nano out..... I even have a repair tool to take your armour back up. Help me help you EB In counter to this, the amount of times ive lay there spamming SQUARE, with a banner on screen saying " Logistics in the area" or someting similar and still not got a rez, not sure if the square button actually does anything but it suppose to signal help. So if im in militia gear and have nothing to lose a random respawn does the team more good than me lying injured indeffinely lol
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 967	Posted - 2012.08.24 14:29:00 - [20] - Quote Eddie Boirelle wrote: you forgot 4) Don't suicide if there is a logi in the area, let him come rez you. The number of times I've seen someone go down, run over to them and they suicide before I can even get my nano out..... I even have a repair tool to take your armour back up. Help me help you EB A thousand times this. The new icon system for players who are carrying injectors works very well, fit the nanite injectors to have a look for yourself. Don't suicide right away, wait out the timer and give logi a chance to rez / rep you. If the time runs out and you die anyway, your respawn time on the map will be 1 or 2 seconds, so your not really gaining any time by suicide anyway. TL:DR : Medics are putting themselves into harms way every game, give them the few more seconds they need to get to you.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.24 14:39:00 - [21] - Quote I only suicide if I did something stupid and wound up in an area where no friendlies are on mini-map and surrounded by a bunch of reds.
Kalchei 0	Posted - 2012.08.24 14:40:00 - [22] - Quote You have a point, especially as people seem to think kills are better than the actual objectives.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.08.24 15:52:00 - [23] - Quote Do the Av grenades work better than last build as in actually destroying stuff last build they were pretty pap.
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.08.24 15:56:00 - [24] - Quote 3. Good luck trying to stuff that AV nade and a sub machine gun on a scout suit with anything better then militia sniper. Sniper rifles have terrible fitting requirements advanced rifles for example have 95 base CPU requirement.
Leo Plaude Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.08.24 16:06:00 - [25] - Quote AV grenades are beast now. They thrash LAVs in one go and HAVs can't take much abuse from them either. Also the fact that they 'Home' in on vehicles is glorious! However, Infantry nades? They home too! So while I'm not saying one is better than the other, if you want to kill make someone wake up in a clone-pod, you need tools of all kinds. My Anti-Vehicle guy carries a Nano-injector and a repair tool (I think) because taking down a vehicle is going to leave some of your friends on the floor. My assault guy carries Anti-Infantry grenades because forcing people out from cover works wonders. My Sniper is in an assault dropsuit so I can have better fitting requirements, which means I CAN use AV grenades. Heck I even point-blank sniper fought a scout-suit sniper. We just stood there 20 feet away with Charge Snipers leveled at eachother. He got the first shot off and took me to low armor, I got my first shot off and he died. All because Assault is more durable and more damaging (2 damage+ mods and an armor rep? thank you). Play around with the fits and have fun, but do be intelligent, it's your ISK on the line.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.24 16:57:00 - [26] - Quote Well said Leo. Variety is the spice of life as they say. Very good advice to all, ESPECIALLY players who are already comfortable with their loadouts. Become comfortable in other peoples loadouts :P
Ashe Kelly Doomheim 9	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:02:00 - [27] - Quote AV nades don't help much against LAVs. Just use a swarm missile.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:04:00 - [28] - Quote Wtf? 1hit kill not good enough? Just make sure you throw them above the vehicle... and you can't have an assault rifle and swarm launcher. That's the real reason AV and SMG are #1 IMHO. They can go in EVERY suit you ever use. That's damn good IMHO.
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:13:00 - [29] - Quote above all else use your brain and your eyes. just started hacking a point and a red flashed up on map what does my teammate do. starts hacking also. FFS developers have been giving players an easy time over the last 10 years. it's turned the playerbase into k/d morons.
Seitan Tempeh Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:13:00 - [30] - Quote Something to remember when deploying drop uplinks: watch them activate before moving on. Uplinks will auto destruct if not on a level surface and it take a moment for that to happen.

Monocle Cognac Universal Allies Inc. 14	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:33:00 - [31] - Quote I really agree with number 2 there. I thought the whole purpose of dropships was to transport squads to an objective and provide covering fire while it is being hacked. In my opinion, part of the problem is that no one is talking on mics so coordination of dropships is difficult. If more people talked, this game would play a lot differently than it does now.
Altman Stormsinger Doomheim 16	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:37:00 - [32] - Quote fenrir storm wrote: Do the Av grenades work better than last build as in actually destroying stuff last build they were pretty pap. yeah. AV nades have made my poop a little bit whenever i see someone throw a nade at me when i'm in a car.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.25 13:32:00 - [33] - Quote Bumped again after a game with monteprongles killing everyone and winning the game for the enemy team. GG. Take ***** anti *** tank ***** grenades. If the community is too much of a bunch of retards to do this, we might as well give up on comms, or anything more complicated than TDM. You are terrible if your build cannot kill a tank.


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