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Mariano G
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:22:00 -
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Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone was thinking the same. You see I earn around 18-30 k a match of sp which is barely anyhting for say assualt rifle operation v5, which is 512,000 sp. Btw, it's not that I'm bad at the game I go 15-7 or 9-2 in ambush matches and I believe we should get like 50 or 60 k as the current 18-30 k isn't good enough. When new players play the game they want to see progress, and by giving them little little sp per game you make the the game less fun. I can see how things could become unbalanced but we need to fix something here thanks for reading. |
Mr Funless
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
191
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:24:00 -
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Working as intended. You are not supposed to get level 5 skills after 2 days of playing. |
Jimbo Boilstaff
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:26:00 -
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Mariano G wrote:Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone was thinking the same. You see I earn around 18-30 k a match of sp which is barely anyhting for say assualt rifle operation v5, which is 512,000 sp. Btw, it's not that I'm bad at the game I go 15-7 or 9-2 in ambush matches and I believe we should get like 50 or 60 k as the current 18-30 k isn't good enough. When new players play the game they want to see progress, and by giving them little little sp per game you make the the game less fun. I can see how things could become unbalanced but we need to fix something here thanks for reading.
ive been playing the past 24 hours to save up my 512,000 for exactly that...... only 10k more to go woop woop |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:31:00 -
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Mariano G wrote:Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone was thinking the same. You see I earn around 18-30 k a match of sp which is barely anyhting for say assualt rifle operation v5, which is 512,000 sp. Btw, it's not that I'm bad at the game I go 15-7 or 9-2 in ambush matches and I believe we should get like 50 or 60 k as the current 18-30 k isn't good enough. When new players play the game they want to see progress, and by giving them little little sp per game you make the the game less fun. I can see how things could become unbalanced but we need to fix something here thanks for reading.
Ha no thank you |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:33:00 -
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Use militia to maximize profits |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:40:00 -
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I think the quality of your opponents' gear affects your SP gain as well. I'll often be at the top of the killboard only to get a measly 30k with booster bonus.
Once we've got advanced vs. advanced gear matches, I'm assuming the SP rewards will scale upwards. (Until everyone runs out of ISK and goes back to militia, that is.) |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
27
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:14:00 -
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Personally my SP can range from 7-40k (with a booster) per match depending on my performance. I tend to run logi so if my team is well focused into a squad I can keep them alive pretty well and get tons of rep and revive points from it. If they are all running lone wolf style and getting divided by the enemy I don't get much.
Basically the more war points you get in a match the more SP you get.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263720#post263720
This is from a different topic, but it covers the effective ways to farm war points. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
27
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:15:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I think the quality of your opponents' gear affects your SP gain as well. I'll often be at the top of the killboard only to get a measly 30k with booster bonus.
Once we've got advanced vs. advanced gear matches, I'm assuming the SP rewards will scale upwards. (Until everyone runs out of ISK and goes back to militia, that is.)
From my experience it is mostly the isk that scales up as you fight better equipment. The SP is more linked to personal performance. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:31:00 -
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Mr Funless wrote:Working as intended. You are not supposed to get level 5 skills after 2 days of playing.
Yup. The dropsuit upgrades are going to be a b!tch though, not gonna lie. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
134
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:32:00 -
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just wait till they realize that it takes 2 million sp to start to get into the good dropsuits...... |
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Mariano G
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:54:00 -
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Yup 2millon for proto ridiculous. I understand I'm not supposed to be earning a level 5 skill in a day but for new players it's a turn off. My friend already bashed the game saying that it's weapons sucks and it's to slow to get to the good stuff. I explained to him everything about the game but seriously things have to change. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:08:00 -
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Mariano G wrote:Yup 2millon for proto ridiculous. I understand I'm not supposed to be earning a level 5 skill in a day but for new players it's a turn off. My friend already bashed the game saying that it's weapons sucks and it's to slow to get to the good stuff. I explained to him everything about the game but seriously things have to change.
New to MMO's?
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:14:00 -
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I disagree.. This is a very squad based game. If everyone is running around in proto gear that is easy to obtain then everyone will run around solo COD style.
It is forcing people to create front lines and perimeters, it is becoming more of a war simulator than it is just where it's just another "let me roleplay as Rambo" game..
it's not just all about you owning everyone single handedly. Being it is that it's a free 2 play shooter not some big marketed $65 game that appeals to the masses, leads me to believe all these ultimatums are going to be stonewalled by CCP.
Sorry your friend doesn't like the game but there are few people raging about it on mics compared to here where people just sit in on the forums all day (not accusing anyone in this thread but thats the case here..) Hopefully CCP listens in on squad chats instead of reading thses QQs all day..
I find in strange in local chat I will troll it to add a member to my squad of already 2-3 DUST vets but the ppl in local are either just silent or say things like "LOL I dont need a squad LOLOL my KDR in COD is 5.43 dude!!" and then watch that same person go like 15/2 in the next game..
Then back in local I asked "so how did that solo run go for you-"
"LOL This game is teh sux I'm out LOL BAI" |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:46:00 -
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DUST is not CoD where you can cycle through to level 70 in a month and then stop playing until the next version is released because you are bored.
It's meant to last for the long term with a great depth in match skills and out of match politics and strategy.
I see the communication of this concept to new players to be the biggest challenge CCP will have. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:50:00 -
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Gawd I just want the skill system from EVE. Having to grind for skills is such a let down, I'd rather just queue up 4 days of skills and only play a couple rounds when I want to. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.23 20:26:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Gawd I just want the skill system from EVE. Having to grind for skills is such a let down, I'd rather just queue up 4 days of skills and only play a couple rounds when I want to.
Lee Ermy get your kitten ass over here and say something to this guy:
OMG!!! are you kitten kidding me?? did you or did you not! kitten notice PASSIVE SKILL POINT GAIN!!!
What is it with some of these evekittens who do not know Jack kitten about any kitten skills related kitten and how kitten hard is it to kitten read! the kitten manual since its there for a kitten reason!
Homer kitten jumped up in a sidecar kitten are these folks who want everything to be kitten easy!
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Mariano G
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.23 21:11:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Mariano G wrote:Yup 2millon for proto ridiculous. I understand I'm not supposed to be earning a level 5 skill in a day but for new players it's a turn off. My friend already bashed the game saying that it's weapons sucks and it's to slow to get to the good stuff. I explained to him everything about the game but seriously things have to change. New to MMO's?
No not completely I understand the whole mmo thing and how your supposed to dedicate time into it. It just worries me that dust will end up being a failure and all the fools with iqs below 100 go out and buy black ops 2. Or maybe this game just isn't for me and is for a select group of individuals who enjoy this type of stuff I just don't know. |
Ayures II
33
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Posted - 2012.08.23 21:14:00 -
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Mariano G wrote: all the fools with iqs below 100 go out and buy black ops 2
Perfect. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
811
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:01:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Mariano G wrote: all the fools with iqs below 100 go out and buy black ops 2 Perfect.
yup, if that's the case it will be working as intended as far as I'm concerned.
This game isn't supposed to be about "getting the best gear", the gear is just a tool to gain faction/territory control and ISK. Hopefully CCP find a way to make this more clear to noobs by launch. |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:18:00 -
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Go for minor upgrades then work from there then. Say instead of trying to get the best shield module, you aim a little lower and get 2nd or 3rd best module, then switch to training into something else that doesn't require a skill to be 5.
Working as intended. |
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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:22:00 -
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All I can say is "Back in my day when we played EVE we didn't get sp for breaking ****, we had to wait years to get millions of SP, you new fangled FishFPSer are all we want in now, bloody youngins" |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:28:00 -
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The game is trying to get you to specialize. By having large SP costs, you need to commit to a certain playstyle, rather than "I feel like AR today. Nope, I want a Forge now. Wait, I like the Mass Driver". |
Stupid Drunk1
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.08.23 23:08:00 -
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Mariano G wrote:Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone was thinking the same. You see I earn around 18-30 k a match of sp which is barely anyhting for say assualt rifle operation v5, which is 512,000 sp. Btw, it's not that I'm bad at the game I go 15-7 or 9-2 in ambush matches and I believe we should get like 50 or 60 k as the current 18-30 k isn't good enough. When new players play the game they want to see progress, and by giving them little little sp per game you make the the game less fun. I can see how things could become unbalanced but we need to fix something here thanks for reading.
BUUDDY 7 Several Years of skills, means the game will be unbalanced; no matter what, and I agree with the first poster who countered its not meant to take a few days to get lv 5 skills without something merit wise from you |
FatalFlaw V1
ISK Faucet Industries
76
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Posted - 2012.08.23 23:40:00 -
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I can live with the SP accrual rate, but future players better have to grind just as much as those who play from release.
I can see down the road people complaining "I can only use militia gear and this guy in his proto suit and meta rifle one-shots me after I put a full clip in him."
Next thing you know they make your first x million skill points accrue at 8x the rate to help all the new players catch up. |
Mariano G
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:59:00 -
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I agree but I just believe that CCP should make the instructions more clear for the noobs when the game launches. Perhaps a special testing room which allows you to learn the ropes and how to manage isk etc. |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:49:00 -
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Im caught inbetween on SP gains, i think it might be a tad low (maybe set the standard to be equal to 1.5x like u getr with booster, then booster increases it more), but we dont need it like last build (as great as it was). As to getting skills, you simply got to figure out the opportunity cost.
Me personally, i have 3 skills maxed to lv5 already, and one at lv4, and not advancing it at the moment, since the 512k SP, is being put into a different area that is mor important to me i feel (now at lv3). For one of my lv5 skills, i DID get all 5 levels in one day (first day i played)
So yeah, u just need to figure what u want more atthe moment, and how important that lv5 skill might be compared to say 3 levels of a differ skill |
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