The biggest problem now though is AV is even worse than last build....

I just cant keep anyone happy can I.

Tell ya wut tho its a big change from Scout to tank.

Now it's jeeps, tanks and snipers... Snipers will eventually have no one to shoot. Jeeps will become redundant and turn into dropships or tanks. In a week or two we will be back to tank wars. The biggest problem now though is AV is even worse than last build.... Welcome to tank wars take two people.

HAV's have to stay 300m or further from anyone or die to AV nades. Dropships, well, they're a transport. I think I've been killed once or twice. Swarmer > Dropship. When you say AV got worse, it's only the range on the forgegun I can see was nerfed.

Jeeps are great. Jeeps are free. Jeeps explode in 1 shot from a swarm or forge. They provide you with speed at the cost of durability. Where is the militia nanofibre...

Snipers are the problem IMHO. I wouldn't mind if they could get a decent number of kills. But they can't. I'm waiting to see a good sniper on Dust. Not seen any hit 50 kills. Snipers are wastes of space. Notice they always lose objective games.

Not seen any hit 50 kills.

Sadly how many people do you think will carry on playing this game. They will sign up for what they think is a mmofps get continually slaughtered every game going maybe 1 for 10 before they even figure out how things work on the game and be quitting in droves. I and my friends are quitting so many instant TDM's with tanks or when we know there will be tanks, and this build has only been live for a few days. I don't blame the tankers, snipers etc, it's the way the game, maps, etc. are pushing people to play, well people who want world of tanks anyway.
4 man squads make it harder still as you need at least a whole squad trying to deal with the one man army, even then the odds are with the tank.
Unbalanced, yes indeed. mmofps, no not at all.

EDIT... It's cool sha, there were 4 of us trying to kill your tank. We failed.

Right just need to throw a sniper rifle on this fat suit and stand on top of my tank and I might just beable to fill a bathtub with Warriors tears.

Come on man you guys had one bad game chill out. If it makes you feel anybetter It takes me 6 good games to replace that tank and I'm constantly broke I cant buy basic skillbooks.

AV Nades are epic win try using them and lol dropships aint even a threat. Well unless its taking a sniper to the tower tops

EDIT... It's cool sha, there were 4 of us trying to kill your tank. We failed.

its funny watching all the "WARRIORS" run away and leave game when ever Jenza enters game

Sorry didnt see the edit until after I posted.

Feel bad now for ribbing ya

Wont use it next time I see you and you can slaughter my horrible milita fatsuit

Sadly how many people do you think will carry on playing this game. They will sign up for what they think is a mmofps get continually slaughtered every game going maybe 1 for 10 before they even figure out how things work on the game and be quitting in droves. I and my friends are quitting so many instant TDM's with tanks or when we know there will be tanks, and this build has only been live for a few days. I don't blame the tankers, snipers etc, it's the way the game, maps, etc. are pushing people to play, well people who want world of tanks anyway.
4 man squads make it harder still as you need at least a whole squad trying to deal with the one man army, even then the odds are with the tank.
Unbalanced, yes indeed. mmofps, no not at all.

EDIT... It's cool sha, there were 4 of us trying to kill your tank. We failed.

Dont forget there were 3 of us in the tank trying to stop u killing us

I hope they introduce web equipment pretty soon. Tanks traping by web will go much slower or even stoped then.......... its matter of time to kill even most armored one.

Icey didnt see any snipers get 50 last build. 50+ was quite easily possible as infantry too (did it myself 53-1).
I've yet to see one come top of the table this build. Tbqh, sniping is not efficient with random spawning. (don't know which routes to cover). With 4000 maps, sniping is a waste of time.

I haven't seen a sniper get 10 kills this build Icey. 50 was simply a standard which people currently do not meet.

I know the big tanks are not on the field yet, but I blew up a tank with two shots from my advanced swarm launcher, so I do not think tanks own the field yet. I'll reserve my judgement though to see how much they nerf the swarm launcher range. Right now it is easy mode, and it does lock on from too far away, but I hope it has a decent range when they are done.

Sorry didnt see the edit until after I posted.

Feel bad now for ribbing ya

Wont use it next time I see you and you can slaughter my horrible milita fatsuit


Edit: Arg you keep posting too fast. Yea I kinda had to go tanks cos otherwise my lot gona get rolled by tanks and it aint cool. Ask anyone from Seraphim Initiative about how Tanks make me feel.

if you want to get rid of a tank get in another tank. I had a madrugar in the last build with over 5000 HP at all with that I could tear apart a Sagaris.

Hehe, so funny to see Sha in a tank! He has hated them since day one! Ah well, when in Rome, do as the Romans do!

Just wanted to make a couple of points tho, there are a few elements to the game that we do not yet have access to in the Beta, they are Webs and EW which will both have a significant impact on AV. In a further point, this game is clearly designed to be played by co-ordinated teams with different squads or players fulfilling different roles in the defeat of HAV's, something I know works as my corps have done this using different tactics to varying levels of success but all lots of fun and satisfying to pull off. Anyway, dont write off Dust as unbalanced yet, we are in Beta and are handicapped as foot soldiers as we dont have all the weapons in our eventual armoury available to us now, I will be the first to cheer wildly when they are as I will never bother skilling for tanks as I cant drive the bloody things! lol

Icey didnt see any snipers get 50 last build. 50+ was quite easily possible as infantry too (did it myself 53-1).
I've yet to see one come top of the table this build. Tbqh, sniping is not efficient with random spawning. (don't know which routes to cover). With 4000 maps, sniping is a waste of time.

I haven't seen a sniper get 10 kills this build Icey. 50 was simply a standard which people currently do not meet.

Coordinated teams ? 4 man squad with 14 other no mic'd randoms, you mean that team. lol.

your corps ? In eve I take it ?

4 man squads, squads can't group = NO TEAM. Maybe this is to come ? It would be nice to know. Don't get me started about comms.

Nope, Seraphim initiative is a Dust corp and we were pulling these tactics off before this build and 4 man groups and 3rd party comms simplifies things for us in this build. This game sucks for lone wolfs I'm sure but working in teams is real rewarding

so you dont like the idea of squads being able to group up so you can have a hole team of your m8s/clan/corp on the same game /map at the same time this is what i want how about you

This sentence... This sentence made no sense. Obviously he is for grouping up of all kinds. I really don't understand what part of that paragraph made you think otherwise.

That funny because Ive been in a few games with you and Ive never seen you with "amazon" K/D ratios. Maybe it was just bad games for you, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

IMHO sniping in Dust isn't about getting kills, its about area denial. Snipers aren't meant to randomly kill everyone if you do you increase the chance of getting lynched. A sniper victory isn't a high kill death ratio. A sniper victory is one sniper holding down an objective an entire game. because he kills anyone that gets close. Or killing the crew of a tank who keeps bailing in order to capture an objective. Or killing three guys that got the drop on one of your guys because they are too distracted to notice that they are taking massive chunks out of their health, sure the sniper might only get assist kills but he's still helping out.

Heres a question for you;

Who is more valuable in an ambush team:

a) 5 assault guys with 3/6, 3/4, 1/8 and 4/9.

Or

b) one sniper who gets 15/0. (K/D)

You know what I do when I find an enemy uplink? Unlike the fools who blow them up, I camp them. Spawn campin lie that is a fully legit mechanic. The problem is you can't spawn elsewhere. And yeah I am pretty much playing solo. Makes you better :D

I just hate the idea of being force to spawn 10-20 times knowing I have a fatsuit HMG watching. Feels too much like spawning back in Replication :-s

I like playing alone, the game is harder an more frustrating :D I like playing in a group too, but currently with the game not saying who's on, in game, w8ing or whatever, I just cba to group.