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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:04:00 -
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I'm not the best gamer in the world, but I was better than average in dust in the last build. Now I can't do anything right. This build my hit detection is hit and miss at best, ADS even worse, almost unusable. I have tried AR, SMG and snper, the only way I can win a gun fight is to point blank someone with a shotgun and this isn't 100%. I live in the UK and would like to know if anyone else is having similar problems, if so any ideas why this build is so different to the last. Not to mention the endless list of bugs that I'm contending with such as, freezing, no scoreboard, internal error, aurum items in market only, going into games as a squad then not being in a squad, invalid dropsuit fittings. Resetting my ps3 two and three times every other game is frustrating to the extreme. Oh one positive, graphics are nice though. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:07:00 -
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DUST-ball became NERF-ball! |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:08:00 -
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it took me like 3-4 hours to get a kill but now i like it.. takes time to adjust from the last build |
lordpondus
31
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:10:00 -
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I also strugle in the beginning of this build, but keep trying, stay close to mates, throw granades first always , I use mouse and keyboard. I am not a good player , but last night was god and I helped out my teammates. :) loving the game |
lordpondus
31
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:11:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:it took me like 3-4 hours to get a kill but now i like it.. takes time to adjust from the last build
Exactly what I would say also, tok some time yes. |
Rains Akkadian
BetaMax.
28
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:16:00 -
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I do occasionally have problems with not being able to hit anything but i'm starting to work out situations where its worse and looking at the patch notes i think some of it is intentional.
I play assault and have found that the gun tend to have their own optimal range, and it varies from gun to gun. For example I cannot hit the broadside of a barn at 3 paces with the Breech Assault rifle but the Burst Assault is actually not bad.
They don't work as well up close and they don't work as well at long distances but they have a sweet spot at about 10-20 paces.
This could be the case with other weapons to (modified effective ranges, i mean) which could explain why its good for some people and not for others.
I think we will all get used to it |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:18:00 -
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This is the first build where I hit things I shoot at. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:21:00 -
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You have to actually aim now , which I like , it's not shoot to the side of the player to get a kill |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:24:00 -
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A topic where non mouse players complain xD
Anyhow I found that other then some weird dislocated bodies my shotgun hits things pretty damn well, but yeah i think there is a optimal range, militia shotgun doesn't seem to damage beyond 2 meters while the breach shotgun can get up to about 5 meters. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:28:00 -
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the problem is (and i no longer consider it a problem) is that the sensitvity/turn rate is super high and i wasn't used to that from the last build or other games i've played |
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Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:30:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:the problem is (and i no longer consider it a problem) is that the sensitvity/turn rate is super high and i wasn't used to that from the last build or other games i've played You can change your sensitivity in settings/options |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:34:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:the problem is (and i no longer consider it a problem) is that the sensitvity/turn rate is super high and i wasn't used to that from the last build or other games i've played You can change your sensitivity in settings/options
it doesnt change it, tried it already. but im not complaining i like the high sens now (sensitivity that is, no longer enjoy sensimilla) |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
108
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:38:00 -
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You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:39:00 -
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Just a warning (mouse people notice this more) all entities have different turn rates, heavies and and scouts spin at different speeds, but only a max turn rate not a minimum so you may have to send your sensitivity WAY down, i don't know the specifics but the short of it is that I can spin around a heavy in a logi with a shotgun with lulzrific results. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
108
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:45:00 -
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Antonius Dacinci wrote:Just a warning (mouse people notice this more) all entities have different turn rates, heavies and and scouts spin at different speeds, but only a max turn rate not a minimum so you may have to send your sensitivity WAY down, i don't know the specifics but the short of it is that I can spin around a heavy in a logi with a shotgun with lulzrific results.
No offence but this has to do with what i posted, how ? |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:49:00 -
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I dunno learn to explain your information better, do some controlled tests or something, all you basically wrote was "I CANT PLAY FPS THAT DONT HAVE AIM ASSIST" unless you are implying otherwise noone knows. I am just diagnosing the problem that was presented by others, that control speed is different. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.19 09:58:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. No your not missing - the hits aren't registering. Especially on Logistic suits and some scout n assult suits. You can see the flashes from the bullets hitting their sheilds but if you watch the sheild and armor bars nothing happens. I've shot players point blank with a GEK-38 (in front and in the back) and got nothing - only to have them turn around and kill me with 3 shots from a milta assualt rifle, and then stare in disbelief at what just happened. Other times the game killing is just fine, so it really doesn't make sense. Is it lag ?? good possibility. or hit detection or all of the above ??? I'm not a programer so I won't even try to say what it is, but it is something that CCP needs to look at after they fix all the major bugs that they currently have. |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:02:00 -
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Some experience with my shotgun I found that some times people aren't where they should be. 6 shots, neither of us can hit each other so take 3 shots waste aiming at center of mass go HRmm... Aim slightly in front of where they will be and BLAM one hit. So there might be a slight desynce from client and sever. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
108
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:08:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. No your not missing - the hits aren't registering. Especially on Logistic suits and some scout n assult suits. You can see the flashes from the bullets hitting their sheilds but if you watch the sheild and armor bars nothing happens. I've shot players point blank with a GEK-38 (in front and in the back) and got nothing - only to have them turn around and kill me with 3 shots from a milta assualt rifle, and then stare in disbelief at what just happened. Other times the game killing is just fine, so it really doesn't make sense. Is it lag ?? good possibility. or hit detection or all of the above ??? I'm not a programer so I won't even try to say what it is, but it is something that CCP needs to look at after they fix all the major bugs that they currently have.
Exacltly, thankyou. This is spot on to what is happening to me and my friends. Thankyou for reading my OP properly then responding appropriately. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:15:00 -
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This build my SMG hits nothing!! part of the time and part of the time they die?? Some games I go 10 and 1 and some games I go 1 and 10 to the point where I just selected quit game due to frustration with SMG hit detection. 80 bullets hit a guys shields and nothing!! no damage but I can see the bullets hitting the shield and reload and shoot another 80 bullets and they hit the shield and the problem is THEY DO NO DAMAGE!
Then the same enemy shoots me and five bullets later my shields and armour on my heavy are GONE?? WTF!!!
I think its lag and I also think it needs to be sorted out asap since if a lot of PS+ noobs go 1 and 15 deaths they are going to quit in frustration. |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:19:00 -
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The Problem: CCP listened to self professed FPS "pros", and turned Aim Assist off entirely
Though you can turn it back on, it seems to be a reduced variant. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:24:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on.
ok well hit detction sux then.. there i agreed with you. you feel better now?
i'm sorry about your friends kdr, it's a tragedy to see such an important stat suffer in something as important as a video game |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:26:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:The Problem: CCP listened to self professed FPS "pros", and turned Aim Assist off entirely
Though you can turn it back on, it seems to be a reduced variant.
Ahhh interesting. Methinks if this continues then my playtime of this build will also be a reduced variant of last builds.
Hmmm lets finish Star Ocean then I guess Skyrim?
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
108
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:27:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. ok well hit detction sux then.. there i agreed with you. you feel better now? i'm sorry about your friends kdr, it's a tragedy to see such an important stat suffer in something as important as a video game
Is there a reason you are posting this lame troll post ? Grow up. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:30:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. ok well hit detction sux then.. there i agreed with you. you feel better now? i'm sorry about your friends kdr, it's a tragedy to see such an important stat suffer in something as important as a video game Is there a reason you are posting this lame troll post ? Grow up.
welcome to the internet
if u got such a problem with it just kill me in the game- oh wait thats right you cant |
oneshytalk
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:47:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. ok well hit detction sux then.. there i agreed with you. you feel better now? i'm sorry about your friends kdr, it's a tragedy to see such an important stat suffer in something as important as a video game Is there a reason you are posting this lame troll post ? Grow up. welcome to the internet if u got such a problem with it just kill me in the game- oh wait thats right you cant
What's tragic is someone like you trolling a video game forum because you have nothing intelligent to say. All your posts are the same boring trollolololol. As he said grow up. |
Skold Hagradsson
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:22:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:This build my SMG hits nothing!! part of the time and part of the time they die?? Some games I go 10 and 1 and some games I go 1 and 10 to the point where I just selected quit game due to frustration with SMG hit detection. 80 bullets hit a guys shields and nothing!! no damage but I can see the bullets hitting the shield and reload and shoot another 80 bullets and they hit the shield and the problem is THEY DO NO DAMAGE! Then the same enemy shoots me and five bullets later my shields and armour on my heavy are GONE?? WTF!!! I think its lag and I also think it needs to be sorted out asap since if a lot of PS+ noobs go 1 and 15 deaths they are going to quit in frustration.
I have had a similar issue with SMG when really close, at range it hasn't proved as punishing. It could be down to poor aiming but having followed behind a guy smg hitting him square in the back nothing.
I am fairly sure one of the devs asked for feedback on the issue by mailing support. You would need to search for the link though. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:36:00 -
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Sorry to say it Dave, but get good. A major part I it is the gear we've been rolling. At 12 hrs a day you must have had way more SP than I did last build. And I was rolling full Proto all day. I've been getting ruined by all the AUR assault rifles, and that damn toxin SMG. I find aim assist makes a big difference up close. I prefer it off though. Get good :D Latency between players is more clear to see now as well. You can tell when you are playing someone from around the world usually, so adjust your aim accordingly. The only way. Also Dave, many good players have returned this build I think. Slightly more capable Playerbase. |
oneshytalk
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:53:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:You don't understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent 12hrs a day, when I play, playing dust for the last six months. I am not missing, my hits are just not registering, is it a lag issue ? but my ping is less than 45 and download avg. 9meg. my internet is not the problem. Last build was not this bad, build before was not this bad. My friend who was 15 on boards last build for kills is having it worse than me this build, his kdr was about 4, he now can't hit anything. I can see it's not affecting everyone by looking at their stats compared to last build, but it is definately affecting me and more than a few others this build. I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, not a chin up speech and keep plodding on. No your not missing - the hits aren't registering. Especially on Logistic suits and some scout n assult suits. You can see the flashes from the bullets hitting their sheilds but if you watch the sheild and armor bars nothing happens. I've shot players point blank with a GEK-38 (in front and in the back) and got nothing - only to have them turn around and kill me with 3 shots from a milta assualt rifle, and then stare in disbelief at what just happened. Other times the game killing is just fine, so it really doesn't make sense. Is it lag ?? good possibility. or hit detection or all of the above ??? I'm not a programer so I won't even try to say what it is, but it is something that CCP needs to look at after they fix all the major bugs that they currently have.
@ tony calif.
Read this.... It;s not just him, and your '' get good '' response to everything, honestly is getting very old. You yourself have said plenty about HD, lag, ping, latentcy etc. So when someone is saying they play often enough to notice things have changed or gotten worse, especially with that much time and experience in FPS's, saying ''get good '' comes across as crass and ignorant. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.19 12:24:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:The Problem: CCP listened to self professed FPS "pros", and turned Aim Assist off entirely
Though you can turn it back on, it seems to be a reduced variant. The aim assist in the previous version was broken and ruined any ability to deliberately aim where you wanted, and frequently had problems overcompensating for target movement. It's been toned down to a competent level, an option to turn it on or off has been added, and it defaults to off.
All of these changes are GOOD things, not just for the "pros" but for anyone who actually wants to play the game themselves instead of handing their controller to a moron AI that couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was IN it. |
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