It really is completely unimportant to balance the control schemes, as having every control scheme -available to every player- is in itself balanced.

Take for instance a fight between two equally skilled men; you give the first man a set of brass knuckles, and he says "Sweet, I'll knock his teeth in with these!" You approach the second man, and offer him the same set of brass knuckles, he responds "I don't need those to kick his ass!"

The obvious outcome, is that the first man pummels the second man, due to the advantage of having brass knuckles. However, it would be illogical to say that the fight was unfair - both men were offered the same weapon; one took advantage of it, and the other did not.

The same logic applies to KBM vs DS3, maybe not quite so dramatically, but I'm sure you can take from this the point I have made.

Edit: I am proud of this little essay.. Off to the feedback section!

Edit 2: I am not saying that a DS3 user is always going to be dominated by a KBM user, I have some friends who are VERY skilled with gamepads, and will dominate me regardless of what control scheme I choose to use. KBM provides an advantage, that is absolutely true; but a DS3 user that out skills a KBM user will still win.

The kb/m players got what they should have never received, but it'll never be enough until they can control it like any other pc game and that's when it will kill the experience for the real ps3 players. The reason that you're not happy with the kb/m controls is because ccp can't truly balance the two. There's no possible way to balance a mouse with a controller.

I lol'd at "real PS3 players". Thats like saying people who eat sandwiches once a week aren't real sandwich eaters, because they don't eat them five times a week.

It is important that KBM players are able to control it like any other PC game, because players were promised -exactly- that, before MPT even started. David Reid himself said "We want KBM players to feel like they're playing any other PC shooter" (paraphrased). So, the fact that the delivered us this trashy KBM setup that does not work at all, is very disappointing.

Again, there is no reason to "balance" the two, because they are available to -ALL- players. Some how I'm going to take a wild guess, and say you probably didn't read my post, or you skimmed it, or you're just plain ignorant.

You all say MKB will be fine as long as it will be well balanced.
Well, to balance a mouse with a DS3 you must:

Make it as accurate/fast as an analog stick.

A mouse as accurate/fast as an analog stick won't serve any purpose nor appeal to PC players because it would no longer behave as a mouse...

DS3 is superior to any keyboard in therms to movement so without the superior accuracy of the mouse the KB players will then be the ones disadvantaged...then I would have to feel sorry for MKB players and ask CCP to fix things..[/list]

IF the mouse is as fast/accurate as a analog stick the joke is on MKB players.
If the mouse is fast/accurate as usual the joke is on DS3 players.

I posted this over in "General Discussions" on a thread I have gotten involved in, and I think would be relevant here. I hope not to start a flame war with this.

If it was available to all players it would have come in the box when you bought your PS3 like the dualshock, not something you would have to spend extra money on and buy separately. Even though some mouse and keyboards are relatively cheap not everyone can just run out and buy one. As you EVE players love to tell everyone ADAPT OR DIE! You got your KBM in game, but it's not what you were expecting. Quit crying, learn how to use it effectively, or just ADAPT and learn to play with the dualshock

If it was available to all players it would have come in the box when you bought your PS3 like the dualshock, not something you would have to spend extra money on and buy separately. Even though some mouse and keyboards are relatively cheap not everyone can just run out and buy one.

As you EVE players love to tell everyone ADAPT OR DIE! You got your KBM in game, but it's not what you were expecting. Quit crying, learn how to use it effectively, or just ADAPT and learn to play with the dualshock

People exaggerating the advantages of kb+m and underestimating analog stick users. What else is new?

Edit 2: I am not saying that a DS3 user is always going to be dominated by a KBM user, I have some friends who are VERY skilled with gamepads, and will dominate me regardless of what control scheme I choose to use. KBM provides an advantage, that is absolutely true; but a DS3 user that out skills a KBM user will still win.

Also, I'd like to add, Dust 514 -should- have KB/M support regardless of your bickering because - unlike a PS3 exclusive game from EA/Activision - this game was developed by CCP.

You're connecting to -MY- universe and screwing with -MY- infrastructure, and despite every player of Eve Online wanting Dust 514 to be an expansion of Eve Online or a PC exclusive they chose to expand their market and numb the complexity of the game to cater to a more attention deficit crowd - yes, that means YOU.

So, in conclusion, you screw with my game? I should have every right to screw you over in a format that -I- am used to. The fact that I had to spend $250 on a Free-to-Play game was insult enough, much less these childish conforms and redundant babbling of mindless children.

It isn't entitlement, it's seniority. You don't get to main the wheel of a boat when you're new - you have to earn that right.

You MKB players don't want balance: you want advantages.
But if CCP gives you the advantages you desire then they loose us on PS3.

Frankly what did you guys expect when MKB was promised?
Did you really think MKB on PS3 would have been like on PC and that everyone would be happy?!

In the last 4 years no PS3/Xbox game received MKB support; did you ask yourself why...seriously?
How could you not see all of this happening when MKB implantation was promised?

Also, I'd like to add, Dust 514 -should- have KB/M support regardless of your bickering because - unlike a PS3 exclusive game from EA/Activision - this game was developed by CCP.

You're connecting to -MY- universe and screwing with -MY- infrastructure, and despite every player of Eve Online wanting Dust 514 to be an expansion of Eve Online or a PC exclusive they chose to expand their market and numb the complexity of the game to cater to a more attention deficit crowd - yes, that means YOU.

So, in conclusion, you screw with my game? I should have every right to screw you over in a format that -I- am used to. The fact that I had to spend $250 on a Free-to-Play game was insult enough, much less these childish conforms and redundant babbling of mindless children.

It isn't entitlement, it's seniority. You don't get to main the wheel of a boat when you're new - you have to earn that right.

Also, I'd like to add, Dust 514 -should- have KB/M support regardless of your bickering because - unlike a PS3 exclusive game from EA/Activision - this game was developed by CCP.

You're connecting to -MY- universe and screwing with -MY- infrastructure, and despite every player of Eve Online wanting Dust 514 to be an expansion of Eve Online or a PC exclusive they chose to expand their market and numb the complexity of the game to cater to a more attention deficit crowd - yes, that means YOU.

So, in conclusion, you screw with my game? I should have every right to screw you over in a format that -I- am used to. The fact that I had to spend $250 on a Free-to-Play game was insult enough, much less these childish conforms and redundant babbling of mindless children.

It isn't entitlement, it's seniority. You don't get to main the wheel of a boat when you're new - you have to earn that right.