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Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:31:00 -
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I play the vintage game called MAG, some of you may have heard of it..In that game im a stealth type knife player..run behind people and knife them and they not know Im there until after..So anyway what I want to know is if in Dust are the knifing skills worth it? Can the knife be an effective weapon in close quarters combat? I run the Scout Dropsuits and use SMGs and Shotguns..i want to know if I spend the ISK and SP torwards knifing would i be wasting it or not? Please reply and let me know..thanks a bunch |
Youknowutimsayin
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:35:00 -
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It won't one hit kill like it does in MAG but a fully skilled knife is good in CQC. Mass Driver + Knife Scout is deadly. |
Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:40:00 -
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See thats what i was thinking..im working torwards all my knife boosters now..but im hesitant cause of the wipe..it doesnt have to be a one hit kill as long as i can do noticable damage...thanks for the reply bro |
panoscape01
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:41:00 -
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I've been playing DUST for a month and a half and have knife killed one guy... in all that time. It was a sniper, just sitting there, it took three swipes to get him. That's with an unskilled knife. With a skilled knife and melee mods you can OHK everyone except heavy's i think. Maxed out it will do 450-500 damage. Not sure in this new build though. But, I'd rather have those mods on my riffle or suit. Up to you though. - 843 |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.16 19:50:00 -
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its way to dodgy to use the knife. You have to get extreme close to make use of it and most of the time the guy infront of you shot you 60 times before you come even to close. Also people are walking backwards if they spot you and you run up to them. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:59:00 -
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Just saw jenza go 14-1 with a knife so it can be done. She did use the other control setup with knife mapped to x tho. |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:03:00 -
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Yep, knife on shroom is never going to work and is rather terrible to use. |
Kovinis Sparagas
Final Fortress
Happy Tree Fiends
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:03:00 -
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If you want stealth, I think in the future were will be black ops (can turn invisable) |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:05:00 -
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Masta Yoda 843 wrote:I play the vintage game called MAG, some of you may have heard of it..In that game im a stealth type knife player..run behind people and knife them and they not know Im there until after..So anyway what I want to know is if in Dust are the knifing skills worth it? Can the knife be an effective weapon in close quarters combat? I run the Scout Dropsuits and use SMGs and Shotguns..i want to know if I spend the ISK and SP torwards knifing would i be wasting it or not? Please reply and let me know..thanks a bunch
lol no, I was right behind a scout unnoticed and it took me 2 hits with my knife to kill him and my skill is all the way to 5.
Imagine if It was a heavy? Knifing won't work, you better off throwing a grenade at him and alerting the entire enemy base lol
This was yesterday |
Waruiko DUST
G I A N T
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:09:00 -
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The thing about knife builds is that you need to build the whole suit around using that knife and closing distance quickly and unseen so you can use that weapon. With the new codebreaker mods a knife/infiltrator would be cool to see though.
As for getting knife damage up there... Yes with enough mods and skills. Working under the assumption that the best damage mods for the kine give a 50% bonus and you have space for 3 of them...
135 base damage * 1.5 from Base knife skill * 2.22 for mods = 449.55 damage a swing. That's enough to down my proto Logi suit in 2 swings and that thing is covered in Complex plate. Even if I wasn't dead after that a shot or two from anything will finish me off. Seeing as most suits won't be that heavy on HP and they should go down quick. |
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Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:25:00 -
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Would love to play as a Blade Scout Infiltrator with increased hacking speed. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:31:00 -
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It's awesome knifing people now. 7 kills I got in one match, while I was reloading. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:46:00 -
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I got a knife kill the other day when my SMG ran out of ammo and I hit the knife by mistake while up close. I am thinking about using it a little more.
The only problem with the knife, which is the same as with the grenade, is that it (they) take so long to come out after you press it., It makes both difficult to use sometimes. |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:48:00 -
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I wouldn't mind having a 2 times use throwing knife/shuriken/hatchet w/e that could be replenished at Supply Depots (or nanohives if everyone really wants). Not too mimick games that will not be named, but for the sole fact that the distance & speed in using an equipment like this would be very helpful compared to the need to run up into someone's gun barrell to knife them. |
Malzel Nidus
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.16 21:50:00 -
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I am a real knifer and honestly, there was a tactic that you could use to take out everyone in about 1 second or less. I had Lv 5 Knife with Proto Scout and full 200% extra damage on my knife.
It does OHKO most militia gear and all scout suits and some assault suits and 2 knives to take out a Militia heavy or 3 beyond that. Once you get those skills up it really is a force to be reckoned with.
Trust me, I ran 37/3 with my Carthum Assault Scrambler and knife. |
Runofthemilljay
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:08:00 -
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we need a sword or lightsaber |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:10:00 -
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Save you point and put them into the pistols.More damage and more reliable.
The knife is pure trash,imo. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:39:00 -
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Precursor broke them. You have to stop to knife and there is a significant delay. So it is now impossible to kill anything except an oblivious camper. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:02:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Precursor broke them. You have to stop to knife and there is a significant delay. So it is now impossible to kill anything except an oblivious camper.
I disagree, imo Precursor fixed them, I've been getting tons of knife kills. I usually weaken them with my AR, then as we both reload, I jump in for the kill. I also have Knifing at Lvl 3. |
Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:04:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Precursor broke them. You have to stop to knife and there is a significant delay. So it is now impossible to kill anything except an oblivious camper. I disagree, imo Precursor fixed them, I've been getting tons of knife kills. I usually weaken them with my AR, then as we both reload, I jump in for the kill. I also have Knifing at Lvl 3.
You sir make sense to me...so do you use boosters? or just straight skill points only?
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Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:16:00 -
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panoscape01 wrote:I've been playing DUST for a month and a half and have knife killed one guy... in all that time. It was a sniper, just sitting there, it took three swipes to get him. That's with an unskilled knife. With a skilled knife and melee mods you can OHK everyone except heavy's i think. Maxed out it will do 450-500 damage. Not sure in this new build though. But, I'd rather have those mods on my riffle or suit. Up to you though. - 843
pano my fellow 843 friend..thanks for the reply...Im gonna try the knife mods after the down time and after i biuld up the sp and isk for it..i gotta see if i like it..cause i love knifing people lol :) |
Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:18:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Just saw jenza go 14-1 with a knife so it can be done. She did use the other control setup with knife mapped to x tho.
pressing X to knife? this may be a bit odd..im so use to using the R3 botton..can i map it out to where i just switch the knife and jump botton..not everything at once? |
Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:23:00 -
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Waruiko DUST wrote:The thing about knife builds is that you need to build the whole suit around using that knife and closing distance quickly and unseen so you can use that weapon. With the new codebreaker mods a knife/infiltrator would be cool to see though.
As for getting knife damage up there... Yes with enough mods and skills. Working under the assumption that the best damage mods for the kine give a 50% bonus and you have space for 3 of them...
135 base damage * 1.5 from Base knife skill * 2.22 for mods = 449.55 damage a swing. That's enough to down my proto Logi suit in 2 swings and that thing is covered in Complex plate. Even if I wasn't dead after that a shot or two from anything will finish me off. Seeing as most suits won't be that heavy on HP and they should go down quick.
so fill my dropsuit with 2 knife mods and a speed mod..then ill have my knife handling up to lvl 5..then im the knifing master yoda i know i am? Ive been told this more than once so i believe it. Thanks for the help my friend! |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:55:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Precursor broke them. You have to stop to knife and there is a significant delay. So it is now impossible to kill anything except an oblivious camper. I disagree, imo Precursor fixed them, I've been getting tons of knife kills. I usually weaken them with my AR, then as we both reload, I jump in for the kill. I also have Knifing at Lvl 3.
Then the other guy was garbage. All he has to do is back peddle to be immune. |
William HBonney
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.17 03:09:00 -
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Where are you guys getting your information on how % dmg multipliers work? I thought it was the total base dmg + all % multipliers.
Some people are saying it is base+skill% then added to that is the dmg modifiers from mods and such...
which is it and where is the evidence that supports it? |
Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.17 08:09:00 -
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thats something i was begining to wonder about as well...anyone have a legit answer? |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.17 08:17:00 -
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We are using the stacking formula from EvE which should work the same way in dust when applying bonuses. |
Ferocitan
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Posted - 2012.08.17 10:02:00 -
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As long as they dont make knifing instant in any way im happy. i hate the instant knife in cod, love them games where it takes time to unsheeth a knife and get momentum on it to stab people. |
Solomon Uitra
Obsidian Trading Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.08.17 10:26:00 -
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Ferocitan wrote:As long as they dont make knifing instant in any way im happy. i hate the instant knife in cod, love them games where it takes time to unsheeth a knife and get momentum on it to stab people.
Agreed
If and of you have played Farcry 2 that was my favourite game for Melee kills  |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.17 13:51:00 -
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For me precusor has made knifing working as intended. so far been killing more people than ever did in e3 combined.
It works as advertised a weapon to finish off somone after you dumped a whole magazine into them and they're still standing. |
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