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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:35:00 -
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When we will be gettin to test the pilot and command dropsuits?
the planetary CQ mode along with the MCC? (is this game mode even scheduled for FW?)
when will all the stuff affecting vehicular play? stuff like capacitors, Webifiers etc cuz till all this stuff is added i dont think we can honestly judge if vehicles are indeed OP or not (vehicles will always be OP when u have no grping btw which is why imo they seem OP now especially when a bunch of stuff aint even added yet to vehicles)
will we even get to test any of these things before the release? from the vibe ive been gettin on recent articles ive read is we prob have about 2 more builds before release? if so there are still alot of things to test and hopefully the next couple builds they add in a **** ton of stuff.
PS: i do believe vehicles should have some sort of weak spot in the back btw, thats what ur gunners are for to protect dat ass so a person able to flank and get behind and HAV should be able to do massive dmg than from hittin it from the front.....thats just my opinion tho...works in BF and works well and good tank crews know that the gunner watches dat ass and with a solid tank crew even with the glass tanks on BF3 they are still hard to take down for anyone that has played competitive matches and not pubs. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:36:00 -
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2 javelins > any tank |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:45:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:2 javelins > any tank
play competitive not pubs pretty sure i said that
u dont find ppl using javs much in competitive because Smoke spam and with proxy scan on the gunner a GOOD tanker will see u and kill u + will prob have either a 2nd tank near him or more infantry
ppl tend to use more RPGs as u can fire off them alot quicker than waiting on a JAV to acquire a lock + smoke which breaks and blocks u from acquiring a fresh lock till after a set time
EDIT: also with reactive armor one each side absorbing 1 free hit javs are mostly useless in competitive |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:48:00 -
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Javs out of range of proxy scan and reactive barely does anything |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:00:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Javs out of range of proxy scan and reactive barely does anything
look not really gonna argue when u havent done any competitive or dont even belong to a clan on BF i can tell u reactive takes 1 free hit from the JAVs as well. The only way to bypass this is if someone laser paints the tank and then the JAV will go into Top attack mode and hit the top of the tank bypassing the reactive and IR smoke also breaks the laser paint and guided rockets btw just and FYI
the time it takes for JAVs to acquire a lock and then tanker uses IR smoke and u have to wait again to acquire another lock ur prob gonna be dead and if by chance u get a hit the reactive takes the dmg and u will have to actually hit that same side again to actually start dmging the tank or the other reactive plates on the other sides and front and back will absorb another free hit
its faster to manually aim and RPG spam a tank than wasting time to try and JAV it pubs ppl are ******** and dont use teamwork u can JAV all day and solo tanks with it because ppl are not organised, play the game from an organised perspective and u will see that JAVs are a hassle to use in actual matches.
We can get all 4 reactive plates down in a matter of seconds using RPGs whereas in that space of time u waiting for a JAV to lock then the driver will use IR smoke thus making u waste more time as u sit and wait for it to disappear to start the lock process again
ANYWAY............back to DUST discussion |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:06:00 -
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Jav can do the top down attack |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:15:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Jav can do the top down attack
have u played competitive? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:17:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Jav can do the top down attack have u played competitive?
It can do the top down attack, it gets a bonus for doing it, just because its a comp match doesnt mean it changes |
Valklear Leosude
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:22:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Jav can do the top down attack have u played competitive? It can do the top down attack, it gets a bonus for doing it, just because its a comp match doesnt mean it changes
Prefer RPG myself since it doubles as a breaching tool for buildings. |
Arborius Veredus
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:24:00 -
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Why is there a discussion of AV weaponry vs. vehicles in the Battlefield series happening in this thread?
On topic, I would imagine that the Command and Pilot suits are probably one or two builds away, along with the laser weapons and the few unimplemented features. They've already tested the balance of all but one of the weapon types, most of the vehicle types, and two thirds of the suit types; so the next two updates will probably roll out the remaining suit and weapon types, fix the remaining bugs, as well as add a bunch of new features.
Of course, this is all guesswork. This is the first build I've played, so I don't know firsthand how different the builds have been from each other. I've heard that they're drastic differences, however. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:35:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Jav can do the top down attack have u played competitive? It can do the top down attack, it gets a bonus for doing it, just because its a comp match doesnt mean it changes
pretty sure i said u gotta laser designate the target in an earlier post and pretty sure i said smoke cancels out laser designations and even if u manage to fire the laser guided jav or rocket smoke cancels it so again wtf are u really gettin at?
Before u try to make judgements on the game get a team and challenge another organised team and judge the game from an organised standpoint...u know the way team based fps are meant to be played and stop judging games from a pub perspective when there is little to no organisation happening. GOOD tankers will NOT get jav'd PERIOD hence u find NO top teams or teams in general trying to JAV tanks in BF. We arent even a top team and never been jav'd in the 30+ games hence ppl dont even bother to use them in matches anymore for the various reasons i stated above....READ AND COMPREHEND.
The time it takes to acquire a lock = the time it takes to fire an rpg and reload it.....now u have a tanker that pops smoke.....thats at least THREE rpgs u cud of fired into the tank while u still waiting to get 1 jav off since the time smoke is active is about the time it takes to acquire a lock as well.
dont even know why im having this discussion with u when u havent played from an organised team perspective on the game but making assumptions on how **** goes down and dont even realise that smoke cancels out all the suggestions u are making.
ANYWAY back to the OP on the DUST topics....i do believe DUST tanks should have a weak spot in the back to help balance it tbh |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:36:00 -
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Arborius Veredus wrote:Why is there a discussion of AV weaponry vs. vehicles in the Battlefield series happening in this thread?
On topic, I would imagine that the Command and Pilot suits are probably one or two builds away, along with the laser weapons and the few unimplemented features. They've already tested the balance of all but one of the weapon types, most of the vehicle types, and two thirds of the suit types; so the next two updates will probably roll out the remaining suit and weapon types, fix the remaining bugs, as well as add a bunch of new features.
Of course, this is all guesswork. This is the first build I've played, so I don't know firsthand how different the builds have been from each other. I've heard that they're drastic differences, however.
im hoping the suits come in the next build after this aug 21st one along with laser weapons tbh these need to be tested properly as well
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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:44:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Javs out of range of proxy scan and reactive barely does anything look not really gonna argue when u havent done any competitive or dont even belong to a clan on BF i can tell u reactive takes 1 free hit from the JAVs as well. The only way to bypass this is if someone laser paints the tank and then the JAV will go into Top attack mode and hit the top of the tank bypassing the reactive and IR smoke also breaks the laser paint and guided rockets btw just and FYI the time it takes for JAVs to acquire a lock and then tanker uses IR smoke and u have to wait again to acquire another lock ur prob gonna be dead and if by chance u get a hit the reactive takes the dmg and u will have to actually hit that same side again to actually start dmging the tank or the other reactive plates on the other sides and front and back will absorb another free hit its faster to manually aim and RPG spam a tank than wasting time to try and JAV it pubs ppl are ******** and dont use teamwork u can JAV all day and solo tanks with it because ppl are not organised, play the game from an organised perspective and u will see that JAVs are a hassle to use in actual matches. We can get all 4 reactive plates down in a matter of seconds using RPGs whereas in that space of time u waiting for a JAV to lock then the driver will use IR smoke thus making u waste more time as u sit and wait for it to disappear to start the lock process again ANYWAY............back to DUST discussion
Mavado with that ether |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:47:00 -
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Lazer is only for air vehicles |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:30:00 -
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Arborius Veredus wrote:Why is there a discussion of AV weaponry vs. vehicles in the Battlefield series happening in this thread?
On topic, I would imagine that the Command and Pilot suits are probably one or two builds away, along with the laser weapons and the few unimplemented features. They've already tested the balance of all but one of the weapon types, most of the vehicle types, and two thirds of the suit types; so the next two updates will probably roll out the remaining suit and weapon types, fix the remaining bugs, as well as add a bunch of new features.
Of course, this is all guesswork. This is the first build I've played, so I don't know firsthand how different the builds have been from each other. I've heard that they're drastic differences, however.
we're far from a good point ccp wants to be at it seems they're burning twoards launch features now then interations later. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Arborius Veredus wrote:Why is there a discussion of AV weaponry vs. vehicles in the Battlefield series happening in this thread?
On topic, I would imagine that the Command and Pilot suits are probably one or two builds away, along with the laser weapons and the few unimplemented features. They've already tested the balance of all but one of the weapon types, most of the vehicle types, and two thirds of the suit types; so the next two updates will probably roll out the remaining suit and weapon types, fix the remaining bugs, as well as add a bunch of new features.
Of course, this is all guesswork. This is the first build I've played, so I don't know firsthand how different the builds have been from each other. I've heard that they're drastic differences, however. we're far from a good point ccp wants to be at it seems they're burning twoards launch features now then interations later.
yeah I suspect they're at "get this stuff rolled out" mode and putting 1/2 done stuff on the back burner for a winter/spring release. Feature creep is a monster in a game like this. |
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