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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:51:00 -
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Ok so don't poke fun at me for this question, its just a question/idea...... when dust connects to singularity will we/could it be possible to see eve battles on the star map. It would be awesome while browsing the star map to see eve battles in real time, I mean it is on the same server so it makes sense. Or maybe not on singularity but tranquility instead on full release? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:56:00 -
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When we have to preface our commens with "don't poke fun at me" society has broken down and courtesy is no longer a staple of our lives.
Good idea. +1 |
Cretian Sol
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:00:00 -
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I doubt this will happen. I could be wrong but its very doubtful. What would be the purpose anyway? You would be running around on a planet anyway in your own battle. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:03:00 -
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Not a live EVE battle per se, but i'd like to see a battle going on in the space outside our War Barge windows. |
Cretian Sol
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:03:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:When we have to preface our commens with "don't poke fun at me" society has broken down and courtesy is no longer a staple of our lives.
Society broke down long ago. It just now has gotten to the point that some are starting to see the decay.
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:04:00 -
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Cretian Sol wrote:I doubt this will happen. I could be wrong but its very doubtful. What would be the purpose anyway? You would be running around on a planet anyway in your own battle. I know but it would add to the sense of epicness if it was possible, it would be just that little cosmetic feature that makes you feel you're part of something big, to know that something really is going on on the same server as eve. It could be used from a strategic point of view too in some way (I don't know what way but in some way) |
Cretian Sol
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:07:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Not a live EVE battle per se, but i'd like to see a battle going on in the space outside our War Barge windows.
Oh that would be cool. It would give us a sense of immersion. I bet CCP has already thought this. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:07:00 -
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@Cretrian
I can see one logical purpose.
To decide where to go for profitable ventures. In New Eden, conflict is the life blood of our economy. People who buy and sell mercenary weapons in Dust could use this information to see where to make the most profit with what they want to sell away. And yes, once everything is fully interfaced, buy and sell orders will be common in Dust. Such information on the star map would be an valuable asset. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:08:00 -
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Seeing actual battles in real time seems like it would take a lot of resources and it's kind of unrealistic (but it'd be cooooooollll so +1)....
But it'd be cool to see a "current" sovereignty map! Watching the ebbs and flows of territory is sort of like watching battles happen, right? And to top that, how about some tokens/icons that can be explored with sizable battles happen? Like, click on the battle icon and it tells you that so many people fought against so many with a minimum threshold of some sort. |
Cretian Sol
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:26:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Cretrian
I can see one logical purpose.
To decide where to go for profitable ventures. In New Eden, conflict is the life blood of our economy. People who buy and sell mercenary weapons in Dust could use this information to see where to make the most profit with what they want to sell away. And yes, once everything is fully interfaced, buy and sell orders will be common in Dust. Such information on the star map would be an valuable asset.
I can certainly understand this reasoning. Though I would think that there will be a contract interface just like there is in Eve that you will be able to access. It will have a search filter function as well that will allow you to look for the most lucrative contracts.
The Star Map in Eve does not give market/contract info so I would bet they are not going to use it for this in Dust. |
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Mr Funless
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 00:31:00 -
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La Gris Feu wrote:Seeing actual battles in real time seems like it would take a lot of resources and it's kind of unrealistic (but it'd be cooooooollll so +1)....
But it'd be cool to see a "current" sovereignty map! Watching the ebbs and flows of territory is sort of like watching battles happen, right? And to top that, how about some tokens/icons that can be explored with sizable battles happen? Like, click on the battle icon and it tells you that so many people fought against so many with a minimum threshold of some sort.
Sov fights are usually pretty boring. If you want to see a sov map change, search google for "eve sov timelapse" and you'll get vids like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJgx9HqHjKY
It's very unpractical to be able to see eve fights in real time from a planet in DUST. For one they would need every EVE art asset in DUST, create space battles using the Unreal engine, and send all the data (position, velocity, acceleration) of every ship, explosion, etc. to the ps3. That's using simple terms. Easier to just put an EVE alt in the system you're in to see whatever battle is taking place. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:18:00 -
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most likely no is the answer to this |
Waruiko DUST
G I A N T
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:20:00 -
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seeing the flashes of ship to ship combat when the space above a battlefield has ships fighting and dying in it would be cool and wouldn't requite too much extra I think. |
Mr Funless
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:24:00 -
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They could just make generic explosions in the sky so you could see something up there, I guess. That would be lame though. Especially if a titan blows up and all you see is a small puff of smoke. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.11 02:01:00 -
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Cretian Sol wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Cretrian
I can see one logical purpose.
To decide where to go for profitable ventures. In New Eden, conflict is the life blood of our economy. People who buy and sell mercenary weapons in Dust could use this information to see where to make the most profit with what they want to sell away. And yes, once everything is fully interfaced, buy and sell orders will be common in Dust. Such information on the star map would be an valuable asset. I can certainly understand this reasoning. Though I would think that there will be a contract interface just like there is in Eve that you will be able to access. It will have a search filter function as well that will allow you to look for the most lucrative contracts. The Star Map in Eve does not give market/contract info so I would bet they are not going to use it for this in Dust.
But the stats alone provide ample reason to use it often:
Number of ships/pods destroyed per day or every hour. Number of jumps per day or every hour. Number of NPC kills. etc.
That alone is enough to get a good assessment on where to go to make the most profit.
Now imagine applying that and adapting the stats for dust. |
Cretian Sol
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 03:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cretian Sol wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Cretrian
I can see one logical purpose.
To decide where to go for profitable ventures. In New Eden, conflict is the life blood of our economy. People who buy and sell mercenary weapons in Dust could use this information to see where to make the most profit with what they want to sell away. And yes, once everything is fully interfaced, buy and sell orders will be common in Dust. Such information on the star map would be an valuable asset. I can certainly understand this reasoning. Though I would think that there will be a contract interface just like there is in Eve that you will be able to access. It will have a search filter function as well that will allow you to look for the most lucrative contracts. The Star Map in Eve does not give market/contract info so I would bet they are not going to use it for this in Dust. But the stats alone provide ample reason to use it often: Number of ships/pods destroyed per day or every hour. Number of jumps per day or every hour. Number of NPC kills. etc. That alone is enough to get a good assessment on where to go to make the most profit. Now imagine applying that and adapting the stats for dust.
Access to that sort of info (that I know of does not exist). However you can find similar data at the link below. Also there are no stats on the star map. It only provides info about the systems.
DOTLAN Maps |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:13:00 -
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We wont be able to see tranquility stats but since the information on the map is API type is should be easy to download and update. Sisi stats would have them but they battles dont happen that often. |
critanime
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:23:00 -
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Mr Funless wrote:They could just make generic explosions in the sky so you could see something up there, I guess. That would be lame though. Especially if a titan blows up and all you see is a small puff of smoke.
I now have visions of a Titan deflating like a balloon. ^_^
While seeing the combat evolve in space from the ground or in a station sounds cool I think it would be more hassle than its worth. The only thing that would really matter from that perspective is if an orbital strike is called. |
Raynor Ragna
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:39:00 -
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At the very least they'll have a statistics page. Maybe icons or animations. Though I do hear that when looking at a planet you get vague representations of whats going on in a district. |
Chao Wolf
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:00:00 -
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Maybe something similar to what eve will have(explosions on the surface where battles are currently taking place) but explosions over head or through the war barge windows? |
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Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 05:56:00 -
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We're more likely to just see hot spots through the star map than actual live battles (though i would be happy with just icons moving around on a flat screen). I don't think the PS3 has the hardware to do that. Maybe stream it as a video, but no way are we going to see it out our windows. Besides, do you realize how unbelievably screwed you must be to see a fleet battle outside your station? It'd be great as a novelty, but soon after your cursing the god and commander that put you in that situation.
Might end up available for the PS4 though. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.11 06:28:00 -
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critanime wrote:Mr Funless wrote:They could just make generic explosions in the sky so you could see something up there, I guess. That would be lame though. Especially if a titan blows up and all you see is a small puff of smoke. I now have visions of a Titan deflating like a balloon. ^_^ While seeing the combat evolve in space from the ground or in a station sounds cool I think it would be more hassle than its worth. The only thing that would really matter from that perspective is if an orbital strike is called.
The first Titan ever destroyed (and the first one ever built) is still floating as a wrecked hulk in the system it was cacked in. CN9-CC I think.
If I remember right, I think the Titan's name was 'Steve' lol
thats on the main Tranquility server. |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.11 07:08:00 -
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All capitals leave a hulk behind them but this one is saved for immortality since it's the first titan destroyed.
More about C9N-CC
Quote:C9N-CC is a lawless system out on the edges of the EVE Galaxy that is notable for being the location of the first Avatar Titan wreck in all of the Galaxy. The captain of the Titan was asleep so with no one to man the ship, a fleet of adversaries took about 10 minutes to destroy the Titan. Since the ship was so significant, the wreckage hulk remains in space today. Due to its notability, a Player Owned Station was built nearby, named the C9N Steve Mausoleum. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:19:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Cretian Sol wrote:I doubt this will happen. I could be wrong but its very doubtful. What would be the purpose anyway? You would be running around on a planet anyway in your own battle. I know but it would add to the sense of epicness if it was possible, it would be just that little cosmetic feature that makes you feel you're part of something big, to know that something really is going on on the same server as eve. It could be used from a strategic point of view too in some way (I don't know what way but in some way)
Just like in EVE, we will be able to see hotspots on the starmap which will show us where that EVE battles are.
With CCP's CREST tech we should(in principle) be able to see orbital battles above us as we fight on the planets. Especially at night. The same thing should be true for seeing battles from the warbarge. None of this is implemented yet, but I think CCP have essentially written the toolbox(i.e. CREST) that will make it and a lot of other cool things possible.
All these super-cool cross platform world-integrating mind-blowing ideas really depend on EVE and DUST being able to communicate intimately with each other, and ideally in a platform-independent way. CREST is or will evolve into the tool that makes it all possible. It's worth knowing about, because if we, the DUST community want a cross-game feature from CCP, it'll prolly have to be implemented through CREST.
CREST is also going to be made available to 3rd party developers, so the number of cool apps that could come out of that is basically unlimited.
Look here in the 'Big Ideas' section: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/25/eve-evolved-new-info-from-fanfest-2012/
and here's Jester with some concerns: http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/2012/07/the-social-network.html
Couldn't find any really good links that make clear what will be possible with CREST or what it's limitations are. If anyone hase a link to a semi-techy article, please post it. |
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