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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:35:00 -
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Who or what Soki is shouldnGÇÖt be the least of your concerns, you will see little mention of who or what they are in New Eden if you tried looking, they don't exist as a corp., they donGÇÖt have a forum, they certainly donGÇÖt have a kill board, and they can certainly destroy most corporations when in the mood without firing a single shot and worst of all they don't leave calling cards or brag about doing specifc jobs.
Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.
None the less the main concern especially those outside of New Eden migrating in is the disturbing number of spies already trying to get recruited and alliance agents and counter intelligence groups buzzing with orders to infiltrate as many dust 514 interested organizations as possible.
Treat all new clan members from other games in the last 4 months with suspect, especially any new members that joined when your organization first started showing interest for Dust 514. Monitor their behavior closely as itGÇÖs the farthest back the 'buzz' has been heard. It is possible bolder individuals have implanted themselves up to two years before, strong MAG clans are likely target victims from that time.
Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.
Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.
Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.
Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.
Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.
Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.
Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.
Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.
Remember,
Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze
Those who embrace the nine tales of Soki will be the bane of anyone not deserving to continue. To those who have yet experienced what it is like to wake up only to lose everything you ever did, there is no greater breaking point for a corporation than to shatter a corporation into thousands of pieces and not a single bullet, missile, ship, armada, army, or number of skill points could have stopped it, and knowing it as you helplessly watch it all get torn apart.
It can happen, it will happen expect it to happen, prepare, preplan, preempt.
There is a reason why this video exists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I Don't think too long about it and start thinking how to save your clan starting now. You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcounts.
If you want a simple test on how to rate yourself on getting counter intelligence give yourself 1 hr to find out this character's Eve Online counter part. All the information you need is contained in this post.
Also some incidents are already beginning to start such as this one http://www.d3ltaforc3.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1204057 btw there should be absolutly no reason why a nonmember like myself should be able to view this. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:53:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:I once joined Soki in the hope of becoming a real life spy, but all they did all day was play strip poker on skype.
Do not recommend as they weren't any good-looking, even when compared to most basement nerds.
Oh that is just a diversion that perfectly spanned out from one of the first corps we took out. They muddy up the waters quite nice.
As one would say
Would the real Soki please stand up?
The next question is for you is how do you know I am not a fake soki member? |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:13:00 -
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Milk Supreme wrote:The GHSC has no interest in your petty squabbles peasant
Soki typically calls them prey. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:06:00 -
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zerkin gerend wrote:that all nice but umm wont we have to wait till 0.0 is out?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You're already 300+ confirmed ID'd agents behind and thatGÇÖs usually a small fraction of actual headcount.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:09:00 -
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Quiverous wrote:A classic example of the masturbationary post. Full of grandiose claims and self reverence. Followed by an example of how we all fail next to posters awesome epicness. Being the only one with an "i win button" all us plebs should just suzy side outta here.
It's not to say there are no valid points in the post, but the tone ... undermines everything said.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:10:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Pathetic. This doesn't help EvE & console player become a community. Stupid post, doesn't relate to Dust.
Post my EvE chars name. From my trial. In an hour. Well off you go. Sad act spy boy.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Start officially appointing Counter Intelligence Officers.
Start Drafting Counter Intelligence Doctrines.
Start drafting stricter recruiting requirements outside the normal kill efficiency.
Be paranoid of who you give control of your corporationGÇÖs assets to. This includes web presence of any sort; speak servers, even recruiting outlets and leadership positions. It would not surprise Soki if some of the second in charge are agents working against your clan.
Learn how to spot 'suspicious' activity in a corporation member.
Trim out the trash, anyone on long absence of leave without reason should be removed.
Those that give excuses should be monitored closely as well.
Finally begin your own intelligence program to preempt strike back before the game even launches.
Remember,
Divert Instigate Lie Encryption Consume Leak Divide Confuse Paralyze
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:11:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:
everyone does have their own agenda the difference between us and soki are that our agendas consist of things like giving feedback on the game and enjoying ourselves for as long as we can.
goodluck to soki.
and if they are so good at spying tell me what my eve name is?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Adding to that, this is the last official Soki statement to be made from this vessel. This vessel was compromised and is being punished for such. Should Soki believe it is in their best interest to contact you or your clan directly for its survival another vessel will be made available for that specific task and never again. This vessel is also restricted from answering questions specifically concerning this matter but is allowed to give broad answers to allow for best flexibility and test of your own intelligence to formulate how best fit the answer to your needs.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:18:00 -
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There is only one type of people in the realm of meta-gaming.
Targets. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:31:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:people take this **** way too seriously.
I know... I unfourtunately didnt take is seriously enough and now I can't reliably join any competent allaince becuase of it. Talk about screwups that follow you ingame for years.
Its like if they invite me its to watch me and monitor what I do to see if they can catch any other members of the soki group which clearly has been doing thier best to keep thier distance from me. Then anyone else with a good counter intel program would already have me red flagged.
Im surpsized they tapped me this early... which makes me think someone else from soki got caught finally and hes the new wippin boy. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:58:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:No Proto it's true and you know it. Think of the MAG players who went to EvE and are already in cushy little corps (oh wait, yiu EvEtards didnt think this would work both ways?) I'll go play a decent shooter once one comes out. Stuff Dust, filled with people who don't want to play an FPS, just ruin it for others. I just can't be bothered with it all. Like you say Proto, these his take EvE so seriously they're willin to jepodise the game before it comes out. Like I say, when a good shooter comes out, I'll play that. Damn I just wish there were other FPS common out... Especially MMO ones on PC...
I was going to address your concerns directly but was ordered not to.
I will say this, Soki issued this statement simply because nobody else was going to. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:26:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:It's ok Iron. The fact is the game will not be a "AAA FPS moment to moment console title" which is what CCP wanted to do. Mostly because of EvE players and their sad little agendas. Dust=fail. Thanks for opening my eyes.
I know just its new eden we're talking not just eve, anything that has to do with new eden is going to be treated part of the same universe. Its not friendly nice and everyone does have the agenda of thier own, thats when things get epic in eve is when they collide.
I just hope those who want to stick with dust 514 in the long run take heed to the warning and start planning thier intel defenses now. I mean I dont think there are many clans out there that has had to deal with the sort of espionage found in new eden. Sure there are spies in clans but they're just generally rear hurt and rather annoying people. New Eden intel agents are cut from different material. Mostly those who want to take the challenge of killing entire groups of people without firing a shot.
There is also the GMs are going to follow the same rules as the one eve side, if a dust 514 corproation wakes up to find out somone in thier highest ranks deleted the entire group finds the new corp in exact name and holds th ename for ransom after he raided all the wallets, armories and territory. GMs are not going to reimburst the group and will delcare "its part of the game." While most clans can avoid the worst of the fates staying out of 0.0, those who do FW or highsec game are still subject by the intel 'leagues' found in either of those activites.
Highsec oftenly serves as a training ground for new or interested spies as corproatison in high sec are so come and go its not even funny these days.
While corproation support may not be at launch or assests and full war monger capabilites (where you the players declare your own wars) wont be in for probably another year, it is in this time you want to start inserting agents now, because a year or two down the road you wont know where some of these people will be and how much of a threat or potential ally they can be. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:16:00 -
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MR-NASTY wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:people take this **** way too seriously. I know... I unfourtunately didnt take is seriously enough and now I can't reliably join any competent allaince becuase of it. Talk about screwups that follow you ingame for years. Its like if they invite me its to watch me and monitor what I do to see if they can catch any other members of the soki group which clearly has been doing thier best to keep thier distance from me. Then anyone else with a good counter intel program would already have me red flagged. Im surpsized they tapped me this early... which makes me think someone else from soki got caught finally and hes the new wippin boy. Baaaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaa! You pay for a game that your someones whipping boy Baaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa! I cant take another thing you ever post seriously again. Seriously grow a pair. Or start a new character for dust at least Or do you just enjoy being their whipping boy.
Well people leave me alone in that game at least.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:17:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:I don't like reading. :[
Especially fanboy dribble like this.
No fanboy dribble its a real warning. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:27:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:Posting in 514's first tinfoil hat thread. Maybe you should change your name from Iron Wolf Sabre to Fluffy Kitten Spork. Since meta gaming is so scary and urgent for you.
Keep laughing. Dont make a tear thread a year or two from now. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:00:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Keep laughing. Dont make a tear thread a year or two from now.
Tear thread about what?
Wouldn't know that is something we'd have to find out. I wont be there to say 'told you so' either. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:01:00 -
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Roccano1 wrote:
So basically your the Illuminati of the Eve universe.
No just silent observers mostly. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:29:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Quiverous wrote:If I get the gist, the warning is this. Corps fail from within. The history of new eden is replete with cascade failure of alliances because someone got greedy or a good offer from an enemy or simply ragequit. We call it meta game, because the truth that gamers might be anything other than gamers is to much like RL. Rather than freak at the responsiblity you are taking on revel in it, make it your own. The author of the thread has set out an agenda, agree, disagree, find them in game and shoot them in the face.
Welcome to the sandbox.
Shudders at the unbidden image of Axl Rose. Running a Corporation sounds fun if the real life job setup is limited to Burger King, et all. Running a Dust Corporation when the real life job setup is about the same is not interesting to me. I rather run around in Dust and just shoot instead of wondering about ISK and in the background checking what property/asset is worth what in yens/euros/dollars/pesos/et all.
Thats when you go and get somone else to do it for you. |
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:47:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:There is nothing that super scary meta-gaming elite (man I wish there was punctuation to denote sarcasm) could do that any reasonable person that would change their game. It's only the hot heads that go screaming to the forums when they get scammed. Everyone else remembers that nothings actually changed and carry on playing. Its understandable I suppose, you're an artist and they are prone to bouts of intense emotion. (Quit being a *****).
That seems counter productive for an infil agent to have any sort of uncontrollable fits of malfunction you should probably start asking what qualities would make a good spy.
Btw last time I checked becuase if i find it on the internet it must be true! that itallics the more common denoator of subtler sarcasm. The other methood is going above and beyond the call of duty (no pun intended) on the sarcastic remark.
Let me put it to you this way.
Team A is uberleet group Team B is average joe.
Team B is constantly fustrated Team A kicks thier rear end most of the time and in rare cases in Team B winning what does it matter if Team A rebounds?
Team B doesnt really have the time, resources, or placement to ever catch up with Team A let along get rid of team a for good. If conventional ingame means are not enough, one must then fight the more unconventional war.
Team A makes the mistake of offering good reception to the best players of team B to change colors. Team B overenthusastically agrees to send over one or two people.
Turncoats perform well learn from Team A and slowly start becomming part of the the game making good cotributions getting trusted and getting promoted though the ranks quickly. They even go as far as to call thier former team a bunch of losers.
Team A continutes to beat the crud out of Team B but as time continues the internal affairs of team a start getting a bit more stressed out, original team members squabbeling over stupider things, why soldier x gets paid more than medic b? bad decisions, missing items, accedential attacks on allied territory. Who's has the best plan. Why your girlfriend wont sleep with you anymore ect ect the list goes on to the point team A just implodes eventually. The turncoats during all this then get thier fair share of the paycheck and ditch the corp returning to thier original corp at the last second possible while the entire ship goes up in flames. |
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:19:00 -
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Hi
Apperantly some agents are a bit overeager to get started in causing mayhem.
http://www.d3ltaforc3.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1204057
Enjoy becuase this is usually a probe to test defenses. If this isnt a probe... this clan is done for, becuase this is how you unsuspect a person of ever being a spy. |
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:09:00 -
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Well if any more incidents pop up Ill update op with it. |
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