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Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:06:00 -
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Guess, this is a Q for the gms/dev if they are allowed to answer. I have been curious lately as to how you determine the amount of SP a player earns per match.
I know there is the normal decrease for grinding, but i find it annoying how i can go 10/6 and get 50k SP, but go 15/1 and only get 30SP.
SO yeah, what factors into the SP formula and such (again this is all if allowed to say) |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:09:00 -
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What I've noticed so far is that SP isn't global for WP during a match. There is diminishing return but not globally.
You can keep getting a consistent SP value if you change from match to match. Go K/D in one match, hack a lot in the next and do assists in the third.
I seems to me that WP are broken up into "types" and each type has a seperate diminishing return value based on how many WP per day you got according to the guideline WP for that type. |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:12:00 -
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i know that one way is to do alot of capping on objs and spawns and the like.
i think you can also get it from teamwork lke getting assists or throwing down nanohives/drop uplinks that get used a bunch.
but i would also like to know if there is like a certain aspect of the game that you may want to focus on while trying to finish the last leg to the next lvl of equipment. |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:14:00 -
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I mean, ive put lots of time into the game, but im genuinely curious as to the formula or how SP is determines by what u do.
As i remember one game this weekend, i went 6/2 , but i used a militia repair tool on a vehicle and might of hacked some stuff and got 150k SP, then next game went 23/0 for only 80k ... so yeah im curious as to see if they have a formula to deduce if certain things give greater SP rewards |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:46:00 -
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Maybe victories get you more sp. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:56:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Maybe victories get you more sp.
Nah its not consistant with W/L or even K/D |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.06 19:34:00 -
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I doubt this information will ever be released. The formula is likely exceptionally complicated and secrecy is needed to help avoid people figuring out how to farm SP in an unfair manner. yes I'm aware that there are ways to do that now, which is why the formula is being revised further. Regardless, it is my hope that they never release this information for the above mentioned reasons. |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.06 19:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I doubt this information will ever be released. The formula is likely exceptionally complicated and secrecy is needed to help avoid people figuring out how to farm SP in an unfair manner. yes I'm aware that there are ways to do that now, which is why the formula is being revised further. Regardless, it is my hope that they never release this information for the above mentioned reasons.
I don't think people are wanting the formula (though some probably do), just a high level explanation on how it works becasue as many have noted, it is very inconsistent. I have been HORRIBLE in a match and get 80k SP, then the very next match, I'm hacking, repairing, throwing nanohives, etc... and I get 5k SP - it is extremely inconsistent.
Personally, think things are not being correctly recognized in a match, or SP is getting assigned to the wrong person (like when you're in the other teams VC). I know for a fact that something is wrong because one match I made it a point to keep track of kills, hacks, etc... I had 10 kills that game, 4 objective hacks, several team spawns and the end screen had me in last with 1 kill and 2k SP.
I think most just want some high level answer as to how it's given out, or at least have it more consistent |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.06 20:40:00 -
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Well fair enough, as long as too much information is not given out. |
Valklear Leosude
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Posted - 2012.08.06 20:50:00 -
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The reset timer for sp gain is at 8pm est each day. Most of the sp is based on time played since the reset. |
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Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2012.08.06 21:09:00 -
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Would or could the meta level stat of your gear play any roll in this, like someone tricked out in militia gear gets the last lucky shot into a sagaris tank for the kill ='s more points versus someone say tricked out in full proto gear would get less?
Then the meta level for team assisting items is almost maybe reversed for the process, the higher the meta level the more stable the points recieved are, this includes throwing out the nano's , drops , or reviving someone... I mean you start out with walmart 1/2 revive then work your way up to 88% or something, meaning you should get more points for healing them better with better gear? |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.06 21:17:00 -
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Naturi Riclenore wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I doubt this information will ever be released. The formula is likely exceptionally complicated and secrecy is needed to help avoid people figuring out how to farm SP in an unfair manner. yes I'm aware that there are ways to do that now, which is why the formula is being revised further. Regardless, it is my hope that they never release this information for the above mentioned reasons. I don't think people are wanting the formula (though some probably do), just a high level explanation on how it works becasue as many have noted, it is very inconsistent. I have been HORRIBLE in a match and get 80k SP, then the very next match, I'm hacking, repairing, throwing nanohives, etc... and I get 5k SP - it is extremely inconsistent. Personally, think things are not being correctly recognized in a match, or SP is getting assigned to the wrong person (like when you're in the other teams VC). I know for a fact that something is wrong because one match I made it a point to keep track of kills, hacks, etc... I had 10 kills that game, 4 objective hacks, several team spawns and the end screen had me in last with 1 kill and 2k SP. I think most just want some high level answer as to how it's given out, or at least have it more consistent
yeah, i think the word "formula" may not have been the right choice, but it was the only word i could thing of at the time. What you said pretty much hit the nail on the head; as i dont need/want to see the technical/mathematical forumla, just a insight into how your SP total is tallied; as like others, SP gained can be quite erratic from game to game (i dont mean hours difference, but literally game to game) with getting the same scores.
Personally i find that win/lose might matter, as it does seem to affect the amount of ISK received, as i can do amazing in a win, and get 300-400k; and do the exact same the next game for a loss, and will only get 180-250k .
So yeah, GM's/DEV, anytime like to drop your .02 i know it would be very appreciated (if allowed of course) |
Beta Phish
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.08.06 22:04:00 -
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the main question will be
What will the SP & ISK gains at launch?
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Will there be that stupid timer for SP?
i really hope that CCP answers those in detail |
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